Low FPS - 970 and 8320E

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So I've made threads about this before and just assumed the games I've tried are poorly optimised but this is just ridiculous now.

I've tried to play Skyrim on my system with an MSI GTX 970, an 8320E and 8GB of RAM. I have no mods installed and this is how my system runs the game:

On ultra with everything turned on, I get about 28FPS at Whiteruns gate, looking into the city.
In the same position but with everything turned off and on low, I get about 42FPS.

And this is what just baffles me, when I open my inventory (regardless of what setting), my framerate drops to around 15FPS, which is just unplayable.

I have the same type of performance in Oblivion (slightly better). I played Shadow of Mordor a few months back and expected poor performance seeing as how poor I run these games, but never dropped below 60 once.

I know AMD is old tech when it comes to CPU's, but should I seriously be getting this type of performance? The main two cores (be it low or ultra) never exceed 75% and the GPU never exceeds 30%. Turbo core is turned off and I haven't OC'd. My temps are fine throughout.

Looking at this video showing both the same system as mine and a system weaker than mine (GTX 960) perform miles ahead of mine makes believe something is wrong with my system.

In a few months I was planning on buying a new motherboard to OC this CPU, but I'm just so fed up with it I might just sell it and buy a new motherboard and go Intel. Any help is appreciated.
 
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The FX 8320E is not a very good CPU, keep that in mind.

Also what is the resolution of your monitor?
In 1440P that build will struggle.

Use CPUZ & GPUZ to make sure everything is fine.

Use Aida64 and MSI Kombustor to make sure your CPU or GPU is not having any thermal issues.
 
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I know, I acknowledged that in my post.

I'm running at 1080p. Looking at other people's performance on the same system leads me to believe something is wrong. I've been using Afterburner and HWMonitor to check my system as I play and everything is fine temperature wise.
 
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Skyrim is heavily CPU dependent and your AMD cpu isn't very good. If you want better performance step up to Intel or turn down your settings for the weaker AMD cpu. What you need is stronger core performance and you won't get that with any AMD cpu. One thing that can help is to turn down shadow rendering which is offloaded to the cpu and hits it hard.
 
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While your CPU isn't great if it's not maxed out, and nor is your GPU then it's not your bottleneck.

Is your power supply adequate for the GPU? Are you running Old Ram or mismatching RAM, Do you have enough free Ram? It could be virtual memory kicking in. Other than that, check your drivers. And check that you aren't forcing some ridiculous supersampling somewhere.
 
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Seriously doubt the CPU is the problem.

Friend plays an ENB modded Skyrim maxed and still gets FPS in the 40s on an FX 6350 @ 4.5GHz.

Brother plays Skyrim with a different ENB mod and also gets in the 50s on an FX 6300 @ 4.4GHz.

Both above are on HD 7950 GHz ed GPUs (R9 280)

Tek Syndicate also did a comparison with FX 8350 vs i5 with a highly modded Skyrim, and at stock both AMD and Intel were getting 85+ FPS @ 1080p on an old GTX 670.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4et7kDGSRfc
Skip to 8:00 minutes in

Could be a driver issue or a core parking issue.
 
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Yesterday (before I reinstalled the game) I was messing around in the control panel and forced super sampling on and yet it had no impact on performance, nor did MFAA.

My RAM is probably around 2 years old and it's the same 2 modules. Skyrim shows it is using 4GB of RAM. My PSU is an EVGA 500B, which I'm sure is enough seeing as I have nothing overclocked. My drivers are also all up to date with the latest Win 10 drivers.
 
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I remember trying to play the game on a 4100 and a HD Radeon 6000 series and I swear I had either the same or possibly even better performance. I know for a fact that simply going into my inventory didn't cause my framerate to fall to 15FPS.
 
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Windows 10 drivers...ugh.

Be sure not to use the drivers from MS update. Use the manufacturer's latest WHQL drivers.

The whole reason I'm not on windows 10 yet is because it forces you to update drivers. In 20+ years of IT experience I've not had any Microsoft driver work better than the manufacturer's driver. This is likely the problem.
 
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The drivers were downloaded from NVidia experience if that means anything. However, I was getting identical framerates both before (Win 7) and after Windows 10
 
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I'm playing a heavily modded Skyrim with RealVision ENB on a gigabyte g1 gaming gtx 970 and an i7 4790k not overclocked and I am getting 50-120fps depending on the region. no frame rate drop on inventory (I have SkyUI). there's no way your fps should be that low. I'm thinking the CPU or GPU might be overheating?
 
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I'm reinstalling the game but when it is done, I'll give exact figures.

I had SkyUI before because it's basically essential but that made the drop even worse.

[Update] Okay, I left the game for 5 minutes looking towards Whiterun at night from Dragonsreach on high and I get:

24fps
GPU temp = 60°C
GPU utilisation = 24%
CPU temp = 25°C
CPU core 1 utilisation = 75%
CPU core 2 utilisation = 40%
 
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CPU temperature looks fine and I don't think 60 is bad for GPU temp either. If all your drivers are up to date, then maybe your GPU just isn't working properly. It's weird that you can get 60 fps in Shadow of Mordor and this bad fps in Skyrim and Oblivion.
 
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Well I just put my old 6700 in my PC and honestly, the FPS was quite similar. In the same position with everything on max, I got around 25fps. Moving around proved harder, as indoors with my 970, I get 60, but with the 6700 it was below that. It was at 100% load however, which I expected. I would reinstall SoM and check the GPU load, but that would take me like 10 hours, so I'll have to give it a miss.

So now I'm just worrying that I'm going to struggle to play Fallout 4. Anything above 30 I'm fine with, but when it starts to go below that, I really can't handle it. I'll see if I can get enough money to buy a 4460 instead of just a new motherboard to OC this CPU.
 
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Theoretically if you're struggling to run Skyrim on Vanilla, Fallout 4 should be much harder to get a good frame rate with, but because of your experience with Shadow of Mordor, maybe it will work?
I do think you have a hardware problem somewhere. Sorry I can't be of more help.
 
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I have a 8320e @ 4.5ghz with 970 SLI and 16gbs of ram. It runs great. I get 9300 Firestrike score on a single card and 13000 for an SLI setup which is the same as the 8350 setups. All of these 8000 series pretty much are the same(Vishera). Overclocking it will make it on par like any other but the E series are more energy efficient and that's why I chose the 8320e over the 8350.

Lots of hardware reviewers use it for benchmarks also because it's capable of overclocking 1.6GHZ stable!
 
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