Question Low fps with Ryzen 5 3600 and Gfx 1080 card.

[Minibrox]

I have low fps in games like cod and battlefield 2024. 30-60 fps in call of duty and 10-38 fps in battlefield 2024.
I had freeze lag every 4th second in games like risk of rain 2, where only the game would drop from 100 to below 10 fps and game screen would freeze for some seconds.
That suddenly stopped, but got fps drops in call of duty where fps dropped from 60 to 10 and ping spiked very high for a few seconds. But it stopped when I used ddu to completly reinstall graphic drivers.

My average fps in battlefield is now 20-38, it went up from 10-20 after enabling dx12 in the game.
I also now have random laggs in windows, where the mouse and windows is barely moveable for some seconds and audio makes beeping sounds.

I upgraded my motherboard, ram and cpu in june, but my graphic card is from 2017. Had no problems except low fps when I did.

I have talked with both nvidia support and support from where I got the parts, and they have no answer about it being hardware or software error.

My current speccs are:
MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Armor OC
Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE V2 motherboard
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Processor
Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz 16GB

Temperatures are normal without any spikes and all drivers up to date.
And Ive done all the recommended graphic optimizations

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Hey there,

What power plan are you running? You should be running Ryzen balanced or High performance power plan. That might kick it into gear for you.

 

[Minibrox]

Hey there,

What power plan are you running? You should be running Ryzen balanced or High performance power plan. That might kick it into gear for you.

I am running high performance. Changing it has made no diffrence

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

I am running high performance. Changing it has made no diffrence

Are you chipset drivers up to date? This will have the most recent Ryzen power plan and would be the one to use.

 

[kurdtnz]

Can you run userbenchmark and post a link to the result. (it might highlight something.)

 

[Minibrox]

Can you run userbenchmark and post a link to the result. (it might highlight something.)

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/47939078

UserBenchmarks: Game 59%, Desk 68%, Work 53%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - 64.6%
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1080 - 97.2%
SSD: Corsair Force NVMe PCIe M.2 960GB - 144.2%
SSD: Samsung PM961 NVMe PCIe M.2 512GB - 165%
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 4TB (2017) - 36.1%
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 3TB (2017) - 55.3%
HDD: WD Black 2TB (2010) - 45.2%
RAM: Corsair CMW16GX4M2Z3600C18 2x8GB - 38.1%
MBD: Gigabyte GA-B550 AORUS ELITE V2

Are you chipset drivers up to date? This will have the most recent Ryzen power plan and would be the one to use.

Theese were the drivers not up to date
Name : AMD Ryzen Power Plan
Version : 7.0.3.5
Install : Success

Name : AMD PCI Device Driver
Version : 1.0.0.83
Install : Success

Name : AMD PSP Driver
Version : 5.17.0.0
Install : Success

 

[kurdtnz]

Ok, several things going on here. High background usage, were you running any other programmes when you ran the benchmark? Also, your cpu is not boosting and staying at it's base speed, what kind of cooling do you have? You need to enable XMP in the BIOS to get your RAM running at 3600Mhz as it's only clocking 2666Mhz. Also, your 2 M.2 drives are very full which can impact your system, can you free a little space on your boot drive?

 

[Minibrox]

Ok, several things going on here. High background usage, were you running any other programmes when you ran the benchmark? Also, your cpu is not boosting and staying at it's base speed, what kind of cooling do you have? You need to enable XMP in the BIOS to get your RAM running at 3600Mhz as it's only clocking 2666Mhz. Also, your 2 M.2 drives are very full which can impact your system, can you free a little space on your boot drive?

Ran the benchmark again after enabling XMP with only Steelseries driver, corsair icue, spotify, discord, steam, rainmeter, windowsblinds, nvidia and firefox running.

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/47939841

Its a improvement, but still much lower than it should?

 

[kurdtnz]

OK, yup, big improvement to be honest. Which slots do you have the RAM in? (should be A2,B2. the 2nd and 4th slots from the cpu.) Also, really, you should close all programmes when you run the benchmark. What temps do you get when you stress the cpu/gaming?

 

[kurdtnz]

Just bear in mind, userbenchmark is crap to use to compare systems so dont worry about the scores too much but it's ok to use as a kind of basic diagnostic tool.

 

[Minibrox]

Just bear in mind, userbenchmark is crap to use to compare systems so dont worry about the scores too much but it's ok to use as a kind of basic diagnostic tool.

What benchmark should I use? They are slotted in a2 and b2.
And average temp is around 80 c on cpu. Highest recorded by hwinfo is 96 c on cpu
Average on gpu is 58c with 70c hotspot. And highest recorded 75c and 86c hot spot

 

[Minibrox]

Just bear in mind, userbenchmark is crap to use to compare systems so dont worry about the scores too much but it's ok to use as a kind of basic diagnostic tool.

According to HWinfo it says I also have 1 CPU BUS/Interconnect error?

 

[kurdtnz]

What cpu cooler are you using?

 

[Minibrox]

What cpu cooler are you using?

AMD Wraith Stealth Cooler that came with the cpu

 

[dotas1]

And average temp is around 80 c on cpu. Highest recorded by hwinfo is 96 c on cpu

Temperatures are normal without any spike

That is far from normal. What is your cooling solution? You should replace the thermal paste and refit the whole thing for sure.

 

[Minibrox]

That is far from normal. What is your cooling solution? You should replace the thermal paste and refit the whole thing for sure.

I have
Carbide Series® Clear 400C Compact Mid-Tower with fan in the back, bot and front.
I thought it was normal cpu temp to be arounf 70-80?
What cooling sollution should I then use instead?

 

[dotas1]

I have
Carbide Series® Clear 400C Compact Mid-Tower with fan in the back, bot and front.
I thought it was normal cpu temp to be arounf 70-80?
What cooling sollution should I then use instead?

70s yes. I can argue a bit for low 80s with bad airflow in the case but the max of 96 is way too high. It's thermal throttling for sure.

First thing to do is to remove the cooler, clean the old thermal paste, apply new and refit the cooler. That alone will make a huge difference. Arctic mx4 is what I use, you can use similar quality ones.

After that you need to install more fans in the case. I would also recommend not using one in the bottom but use in the top instead. Bottom fans tend to suck much more dust than any other placement.

 

[Minibrox]

70s yes. I can argue a bit for low 80s with bad airflow in the case but the max of 96 is way too high. It's thermal throttling for sure.

First thing to do is to remove the cooler, clean the old thermal paste, apply new and refit the cooler. That alone will make a huge difference. Arctic mx4 is what I use, you can use similar quality ones.

After that you need to install more fans in the case. I would also recommend not using one in the bottom but use in the top instead. Bottom fans tend to suck much more dust then any other placement.

Ok thanks. So this might be the cause of all the listed problems? Including low fps?

 

[dotas1]

Ok thanks. So this might be the cause of all the listed problems? Including low fps?

I am fairly certain it's at least 90+% of the problem.

 

[Minibrox]

I am fairly certain it's at least 90+% of the problem.

What about the 1 CPU BUS/Interconnect error? Is that something I need to fix?

 

[kurdtnz]

What about the 1 CPU BUS/Interconnect error? Is that something I need to fix?

Probably being flagged because of the temps.

 

[dotas1]

What about the 1 CPU BUS/Interconnect error? Is that something I need to fix?

I missed that, you must wrote it while I was answering. That may be as @kurdtnz suggested due to the high temps. You can always repaste and then see if that goes away.

 

[Minibrox]

I missed that, you must wrote it while I was answering. That may be as @kurdtnz suggested due to the high temps. You can always repaste and then see if that goes away.

Nvidia support just told me to run a Furmark Benchmark test, but I didnt dare to finish it when gpu hit 93 celcius and cpu 103 celcius.
MY gpu power is only running at 40% average and cpu power on 53%, but spiked to 116% gpu power and 71% max cpu power during the test.

Does this confirm that I have too bad cooling?

 

[dotas1]

Nvidia support just told me to run a Furmark Benchmark test, but I didnt dare to finish it when gpu hit 93 celcius and cpu 103 celcius.
MY gpu power is only running at 40% average and cpu power on 53%, but spiked to 116% gpu power and 71% max cpu power during the test.

Does this confirm that I have too bad cooling?

https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-5-3600

AMD says that it's max temp is 95C so it is definitely thermal throttling before that, you have bad cooling from MAYBE dried thermal paste or bad fit of the cooler and since the GPU overheats as well, you certainly have bad case airflow.

PS: at 103 you are beginning to damage the cpu

 

[Minibrox]

https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-5-3600

AMD says that it's max temp is 95C so it is definitely thermal throttling before that, you have bad cooling from MAYBE dried thermal paste or bad fit of the cooler and since the GPU overheats as well, you certainly have bad case airflow.

PS: at 103 you are beginning to damage the cpu

Thanks I will definitly reaplpy thermal paste and get better cooling.
The cpu only reached 100 celcius during the stresstest of furmark. But it runs on around 80 now. So if this is the sollution to all my problems, I am really greatfull for your help