Question Low framerates with RTX 3080 ?

[HeamiiHD]

Hello everyone,

I've Recently upgraded to a new 3080 and i am seeing terrible fps when playing games.
I get around the same fps I used to get on my 1060 6gb and it's a bit disappointing.
No matter if I have graphics turned down to lowest or have it on ultra it stays relatively the same, around 25-35 fps on Sons of the Forest.
But this also is the case with other games, just maybe as low.
Also when I run programs like meshmixer or other 3D editing software I have major stuttering which makes me think its a cpu issue?(Ryzen 7 1700 8 Core) Which is rather old.
I used to know a lot more about this stuff but i'm just getting back into it.
I've Updated my bios and am currently installing the latest Graphics Card Driver. Downloaded most recent back in October but I'm updating now.
I also have a 1000w psu not sure what else i should provide here so just ask me any questions.

Here is the benchmark:

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/59499797

 

[kerberos_20]

your cpu is not boosting properly,
overheating maybe?
do you have installed amd chipset drivers?
check windows power plans and set it to high performance (non ryzen)
in bios disable virtualisation
your ram latencies and clocks are way below what ryzen needs
enable xmp and reduce frequency as 3600 is impossible with four mixed sticks....something around 2666 should work

 

[drivinfast247]

Hello everyone,

I've Recently upgraded to a new 3080 and i am seeing terrible fps when playing games.
I get around the same fps I used to get on my 1060 6gb and it's a bit disappointing.
No matter if I have graphics turned down to lowest or have it on ultra it stays relatively the same, around 25-35 fps on Sons of the Forest.
But this also is the case with other games, just maybe as low.
Also when I run programs like meshmixer or other 3D editing software I have major stuttering which makes me think its a cpu issue?(Ryzen 7 1700 8 Core) Which is rather old.
I used to know a lot more about this stuff but i'm just getting back into it.
I've Updated my bios and am currently installing the latest Graphics Card Driver. Downloaded most recent back in October but I'm updating now.
I also have a 1000w psu not sure what else i should provide here so just ask me any questions.

Here is the benchmark:

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/59499797

What CPU cooler?

Remove 2 sticks of RAM leaving matched pair in slots a2-b2. Enable XMP/ D.O.C.P in BIOS.

 

[Kona45primo]

Looks like you've got mixed ram in there, ditch the 2 4gb ones and place the 2 8GB in the 2nd and 4th ram slots from the CPU.

Probably again want to look into a cpu upgrade to 5600 or 5700 would make a HUGE difference in performance

 

[kerberos_20]

Looks like you've got mixed ram in there, ditch the 2 4gb ones and place the 2 8GB in the 2nd and 4th ram slots from the CPU.

Probably again want to look into a cpu upgrade to 5600 or 5700 would make a HUGE difference in performance

but his score is quite weak for r7 1700, 3ghz boost clock aint right, single core should be around 120 points

 

[Kona45primo]

but his score is quite weak for r7 1700, 3ghz boost clock aint right, single core should be around 120 points

Yeah the 1700x is low and for now yes getting it running correctly would be ideal. That being said I've had a 1600x, 3700x and 5700x on the same system and the 5xxx series blows the 1xxx out of the water.

 

[HeamiiHD]

Alright, I've removed the 2 4Gb Memory Sticks and placed the 2 8Gb's into the correct slots. I am installing chipset software now, and I'm going to change settings in bios after reset. Let yall know how it goes in a few. I probably do need better cooling for my processor, I just have the stock cooler on lol. Doesn't seem to be overheating according to Core temp while under load. I'll probably just order a better cpu sometime in the next week or so and some better cooling.

 

[HeamiiHD]

So I can't seem to disable virtualisation. I could not find it in bios so i attempted to follow the steps this guy stated.
https://superuser.com/questions/822...bios-if-my-computer-isnt-giving-me-the-option
I got to the point where I was in windows security and then it says "the page you are trying to access has no supported features and is not available. Which made me think I have an incompatible Driver somewhere. I'm probaby going out of my way and there is probably a simple fix, just not savy enough to figure it out.

 

[HeamiiHD]

your cpu is not boosting properly,
overheating maybe?
do you have installed amd chipset drivers?
check windows power plans and set it to high performance (non ryzen)
in bios disable virtualisation
your ram latencies and clocks are way below what ryzen needs
enable xmp and reduce frequency as 3600 is impossible with four mixed sticks....something around 2666 should work

After changing the settings everyone suggested these are the results. Looks a lot better. Only thing not change is vitualisation. FPS improved by about 15-20, very nice.
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/59501842

 

[cryoburner]

This is likely mostly down to the RAM setup. Ryzen runs best with faster RAM, and according to that initial test, it was configured to run at a very low DDR4-1866 speed, well below the 3600 speed the two 8GB sticks have been tested for.

However, first-gen Ryzen processors like the 1700 will likely struggle to run at 3600 speed. So, just setting the XMP profile to 3600 in your BIOS might not work as expected. You will probably have to configure it to run at 3200 speed instead, which is generally around the upper-limit of what those processors can do. You may be able to set it to use CAS 16 latency at 3200 though, if it doesn't default to that latency automatically.

As for the boost clocks, the 1700 tends to drop down near 3.2GHz when more than a few of its threads are loaded, when left at stock settings, so a 3.15 boost might not be unexpected to see. The CPU score in that benchmark is only slightly below average, and that's probably mostly down to the limited RAM speed, and perhaps the 20% background CPU use due to you running some other application in the background while the test was running.

It is possible to overclock the 1700 to allow it to maintain higher multi-core boost clocks similar to the 1700X though. Some have even done that on the stock cooler, though you would likely have to crank up the fan speed to keep temperatures in check though, which might make an excessive amount of noise.

Edit: Since you posted a new test while I was writing this, it does look like the RAM is running at a much better speed now. Again, if you are only using those two DDR4-3600 sticks though, I would try running them at 3200 speed to get even more performance out of it. The other sticks probably wouldn't manage 3200, though at this point today's games and most desktop applications generally don't benefit from having access to more than 16GB, so the higher speed would likely get you more performance than the additional RAM.

 

[HeamiiHD]

This is likely mostly down to the RAM setup. Ryzen runs best with faster RAM, and according to that initial test, it was configured to run at a very low DDR4-1866 speed, well below the 3600 speed the two 8GB sticks have been tested for.

However, first-gen Ryzen processors like the 1700 will likely struggle to run at 3600 speed. So, just setting the XMP profile to 3600 in your BIOS might not work as expected. You will probably have to configure it to run at 3200 speed instead, which is generally around the upper-limit of what those processors can do. You may be able to set it to use CAS 16 latency at 3200 though, if it doesn't default to that latency automatically.

As for the boost clocks, the 1700 tends to drop down near 3.2GHz when more than a few of its threads are loaded, when left at stock settings, so a 3.15 boost might not be unexpected to see. The CPU score in that benchmark is only slightly below average, and that's probably mostly down to the limited RAM speed, and perhaps the 20% background CPU use due to you running some other application in the background while the test was running.

It is possible to overclock the 1700 to allow it to maintain higher multi-core boost clocks similar to the 1700X though. Some have even done that on the stock cooler, though you would likely have to crank up the fan speed to keep temperatures in check though, which might make an excessive amount of noise.

Edit: Since you posted a new test while I was writing this, it does look like the RAM is running at a much better speed now. Again, if you are only using those two DDR4-3600 sticks though, I would try running them at 3200 speed to get even more performance out of it. The other sticks probably wouldn't manage 3200, though at this point today's games and most desktop applications generally don't benefit from having access to more than 16GB, so the higher speed would likely get you more performance than the additional RAM.

So when I changed it from the 2666 to 3200 my computer started crashing over and over. So I went back and changed it to 3000 and here are the results.
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/59502300

 

[kerberos_20]

Only thing not change is vitualisation

look for amd svn