Question Low spec gaming PC ?

[luke514_]

Hi!

I don't know where to ask this question, but I'm talking about a prebuilt pc so this thread shouldbe fine(?) .. please tell me if this is the wrong forum .. I will repost in the correct one.

I want a pc for running Bannerlord 2 and total war games.

With €200 (maybe €180) I found the following used PC: (is not new!!)

16gb ram ddr4
Intel gold g5600
Gtx 1050 (4gb)
Hdd 750gb
Ssd m2 120gb
asrock b365m

Is it a good price for these components?
If I decide to spend 300€ instead of 200€, would I find something better?

 

[35below0]

Are you willing to build the PC yourself?
Do you have a monitor?
Will you buy a Win license, or keep on trucking with a watermark until you eventually license it?

You would need more to build a PC yourself, but it would be 3x 4x better than this used one. Used PCs are kinda of a money sink.

You need 400-500 for a new PC, at least.

You could run this:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4600G 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (£82.97 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte A520M S2H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£56.97 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£42.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£63.95 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£39.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£84.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £371.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-08 22:54 BST+0100
That's a decent enough, cheap, modern PC, that can run games off the iGPU. It won't be able to run demanding games, and you may have to reduce settings but it can be done.

If you add this 3060 12Gb GPU: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...gb-gaming-twin-edge-video-card-zt-a30600e-10m
The price goes up to 640.

Or you could throw £200 at a crap box. Sorry. Not meant to insult you. It's just that it's a cheap, used PC with very little value. Still costs £200

What do you think? Is 640 too much? You can always try to build the system i suggested, and later drop in a GPU. With integrated graphics, you can play without a GPU.

 

[geofelt]

Hi!

I don't know where to ask this question, but I'm talking about a prebuilt pc so this thread shouldbe fine(?) .. please tell me if this is the wrong forum .. I will repost in the correct one.

I want a pc for running Bannerlord 2 and total war games.

With €200 (maybe €180) I found the following used PC: (is not new!!)

16gb ram ddr4
Intel gold g5600
Gtx 1050 (4gb)
Hdd 750gb
Ssd m2 120gb
asrock b365m

Is it a good price for these components?
If I decide to spend 300€ instead of 200€, would I find something better?

I do not know pricing for where you live.
Is this a pre-built pc with proprietary parts like HP, or is it a build from an enthusiast wanting to sell?
Pre-builts are not designed to be upgraded.
I think that pc is relatively balanced so far as cpu/gpu capability goes.
You will have cpu upgrades available.

What is the make/model of the power supply?
That will determine how strong of a graphics upgrade you can handle.

Does it come with windows?

I think probably a reasonable deal.

 

[35below0]

If it was €80-100, i'd have nothing to lose buying that used PC. But looking at it's components and storage, thinking about it's age... It's pretty basic even new, and used it's probably something that will be a miserable experience and make me €200 poorer.
For that reason, i wouldn't.

The PSU i suggested earlier is overbuilt. I think this is enough:
(also, for some reason i saw £ instead of € so i assumed the UK. These prices are for the netherlands, let us know where you will be buying. You may use https://www.hagglezon.com/ to compare prices across Europe)
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4600G 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (€93.00 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Motherboard: Gigabyte A520M S2H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€62.00 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€48.46 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€76.85 @ Azerty)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (€47.90 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 11 400 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (€58.90 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Total: €387.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-09 01:02 CEST+0200

The RTX 4060 is a modern and decent enough GPU for the purpose. Sells for ~€300 right now, but it will drop in price. It draws 115w. Even double that in short bursts would be ok for the 400w PSU.
A 3060 would also be fine. Anything that doesn't exceed 400w.
https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product...rtx-4060-8-gb-video-card-gv-n4060eagle-oc-8gd

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/cBPQzy/zotac-geforce-rtx-3060-12-gb-gaming-twin-edge-video-card-zt-a30600e-10m

With only the 4600G running games, it won't be very powerfull, but it will do. Esp. for the money.

 

[geofelt]

With a €200 budget, a €300 pc is not realistic.
You do what you can with what you got.

 

[luke514_]

Are you willing to build the PC yourself?
Do you have a monitor?
Will you buy a Win license, or keep on trucking with a watermark until you eventually license it?

You would need more to build a PC yourself, but it would be 3x 4x better than this used one. Used PCs are kinda of a money sink.

You need 400-500 for a new PC, at least.

You could run this:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4600G 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (£82.97 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte A520M S2H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£56.97 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£42.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£63.95 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£39.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£84.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £371.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-08 22:54 BST+0100
That's a decent enough, cheap, modern PC, that can run games off the iGPU. It won't be able to run demanding games, and you may have to reduce settings but it can be done.

If you add this 3060 12Gb GPU: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...gb-gaming-twin-edge-video-card-zt-a30600e-10m
The price goes up to 640.

Or you could throw £200 at a crap box. Sorry. Not meant to insult you. It's just that it's a cheap, used PC with very little value. Still costs £200

What do you think? Is 640 too much? You can always try to build the system i suggested, and later drop in a GPU. With integrated graphics, you can play without a GPU.

I was wrong... it has a 1050 ti! Does this news make things much better?

 

[Flayed]

I was wrong... it has a 1050 ti! Does this news make things much better?

You will be able to play some games with a 1050 ti just with low framerates and detail levels. It's the processor I'm not sure about though because I think it is way slower than most games' minimum requirements.

 

[35below0]

I was wrong... it has a 1050 ti! Does this news make things much better?

On paper it's better. The GPU is fine, but for example the drives are used, and the SSD is low capacity.

As geofelt said, you do what you can with what you got. You haven't got enough to be choosy. You need around 600-700 euros for a decent PC.

 

[geofelt]

I was wrong... it has a 1050 ti! Does this news make things much better?

Better, yes. but not by much.
Here is a chart with approximate gpu performance rankins:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

Then, also, the cpu is an important part of the gaming equation and a G5600 is also just OK.
You will have cpu upgrade options.

 

[Flayed]

I played the pre-order first chapter of Baldurs Gate 3 using a 1050 ti before the game was fully released at about 15 to 20 fps. It was still fun.

 

[logainofhades]

Honestly, I would wait and save up until you can afford a better PC.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

What about the i3 12100f? Looks like that is about the same price as the 4500. If you can find a cheap board that may be the ticket as you could upgrade later.

 

[35below0]

What about the i3 12100f? Looks like that is about the same price as the 4500. If you can find a cheap board that may be the ticket as you could upgrade later.

I looked into that. Problem was finding a decent i3 12100 or i5 12600K combo for under 300 euro. AMD is cheaper. There are few decent, cheap 600/700 motherboards in Eurpe.

Upgradeability would be very good, it's true.