M.2 Nvme to Sata adapter

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i have some computers with a nvme ssd and i wanna get a sata adapter for them to go in so i can put them in my dock station when needed does anyone know if they make a nvme to sata adapter
 

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If they're M.2 NVMe not M.2 SATA. I don't think such an adapter exists. It likely isn't possible. At least without a lot of expensive hardware to convert.

Startech just released an M.2 NVMe to USB 3.1 Gen 2 enlosure. Everything else external, I believe, requires Thunderbolt. If you want full speed anything other than Thunderbolt 3 enclosures are pointless. Well Thunderbolt 2 may be good enough but hardly any PCs have those and I believe all the Thunderbolt NVMe enclosures are Thunderbolt 3 and I don't think anyone makes an adapter to go from a Thunderbolt 3 peripheral to Thunderbolt 1/2 computer.
https://www.startech.com/HDD/Enclosures/usb-c-m2-drive-enclosure~SM21BMU31C3

They do may an M.2 to SATA adapter. NVMe is not supported. Just M.2 SATA models.
https://www.startech.com/HDD/Adapters/M-2-SSD-2-5-in-SATA-Adapter~SAT32M225
 

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for SATA based M.2 drives only sorry

not en endorsement example only shop around

basically this will allow you to install the M.2 drive in a SATA shell. you will no longer enjoy the blistering speed NVME drives are known for and will be limited to the 600Mbps SATA bus

there are also m.2 to PCIe adapters that should allow the speed but it will not be boot-able. examples only shop around
https://www.amazon.com/QNINE-Adapter-Controller-Expansion-Converter/dp/B075MDH28Y/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1530296259&sr=1-4&keywords=nvme+to+pcie
 

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Why would you cripple an NVMe drive like that?
What is the specific use case?
 

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Your first link won't work.
That is for a SATA III m.2 drive, to connect to standard SATA III data and power connectors.
 

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ihave already seen the adapter and i need the m key not the b key
 

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If they're M.2 NVMe not M.2 SATA. I don't think such an adapter exists. It likely isn't possible. At least without a lot of expensive hardware to convert.

Startech just released an M.2 NVMe to USB 3.1 Gen 2 enlosure. Everything else external, I believe, requires Thunderbolt. If you want full speed anything other than Thunderbolt 3 enclosures are pointless. Well Thunderbolt 2 may be good enough but hardly any PCs have those and I believe all the Thunderbolt NVMe enclosures are Thunderbolt 3 and I don't think anyone makes an adapter to go from a Thunderbolt 3 peripheral to Thunderbolt 1/2 computer.
https://www.startech.com/HDD/Enclosures/usb-c-m2-drive-enclosure~SM21BMU31C3

They do may an M.2 to SATA adapter. NVMe is not supported. Just M.2 SATA models.
https://www.startech.com/HDD/Adapters/M-2-SSD-2-5-in-SATA-Adapter~SAT32M225
 

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the computers belong to the company and if we ever decide to reuse them for someone out of the company it has to be DoD wiped so that wa no info will be recovered and all
 

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yea see thats what i was thinking ive been looking around and i couldnt find any with a m key end i only could find ones with the b key. i did see this one but im still not sure if that will work with nvme mkey i think it will looks exactly the end https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073W65QX6/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvpv2_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3233965245922079678&pd_rd_wg=P5ZFN&pf_rd_r=0VFGXPWW1KF4RMWTQWPV&pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-bottom-slot&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B073W65QX6&pd_rd_w=Q6x4h&pf_rd_i=m.2+to+sata&pd_rd_r=6184b374-97fb-4436-8595-939921b3a79d&ie=UTF8&qid=1530293731&sr=2

 

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That has nothing to do with NVMe drive vs SATA drive.
When the drive needs to go away, Secure Erase per the manufacturer, or physical destruction.

"M.2" drives can be had in either SATA III protocol or NVMe.
m.2 is simply the form factor.

There is no reason to use an NVMe drive in a SATA III adapter. Even if such an adapter exists, which I do not think it does.
 

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see that now, thanks for the correction.
 
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There is no reason to use an NVMe drive in a SATA III adapter. Even if such an adapter exists, which I do not think it does.
It doesn't. It can't. NVMe can't communicate with the SATA bus. It requires a direct connection to PCI-E.
 

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ik that that adapter wont work with the sata im meaning for the nvme part
 

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That would just work with U.2 ports on a motherboard. I presume no one makes a U.2 enclosure. Which would still need USB or Thunderbolt. It would just add another layer of adapter.

As this is for a business. Getting those USB 3.1 NVMe enclosures would likely be the easiest solution.

As for reselling the computers years down the road. I'd think it would be more cost effective to remove the drives and destroy them. It's not like a three or for old computer is worth much in either scenario and with how SSD pricing is dropping. The drives likely won't be worth much. It'll probably cost more money in man hours to wipe the drives and reinstall the OS than they are worth.

If you encrypt the drives. Once you format them. The data is basically unrecoverable as the resulting drive is just a bunch of random 1's and 0's. If the data is so important that somebody would go through the monumental effort of recovering that data. Destroying the SSD is the only reasonable option.
 

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ok whats the reason for it not being able to talk to the sata bus i can kind under stand the pcie one but not the sata
 

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It does not exist.

Trying to make this work is almost as bad as looking for an "adapter" for a ThreadRIpper CPU and an Intel motherboard.
Will. Not. Work.
 

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i understand that there isnt a sata adapter but in that adapter i had posted the link if were the m.2 goes is the main thing i really was asking about the adapter comes with cables and a pci card that it connects to
 

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Now you're completely changing your original requirements.

You have NVMe m.2 drives. Correct?
What do you wish to connect them to?
What are you using them for?
 
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It's a different protocol. Start here.

https://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/nvme-for-absolute-beginners
 
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I have a use case for this. I have an external HDD cloner/dock that is for SATA drives. I am considering buying a laptop with an M.2 PCIe 2280 card, and I want an adapter to house a similar card that will allow me to use the SATA cloner to clone the drive for backup purposes. I have found this listing for what appears to be such an adapter:

https://www.amazon.ca/SATA-Mini-SFF-8643-PCI-Adapter/dp/B01BJ06VTS/ref=sr_1_42?crid=23TS3ZFEVSEQU&keywords=m2+pcie+to+sata&qid=1551554004&s=gateway&sprefix=m.2+pcie+to+,aps,200&sr=8-42

Can anyone confirm that this would work?
 

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I have a use case for this. I have an external HDD cloner/dock that is for SATA drives. I am considering buying a laptop with an M.2 PCIe 2280 card, and I want an adapter to house a similar card that will allow me to use the SATA cloner to clone the drive for backup purposes. I have found this listing for what appears to be such an adapter:

https://www.amazon.ca/SATA-Mini-SFF-8643-PCI-Adapter/dp/B01BJ06VTS/ref=sr_1_42?crid=23TS3ZFEVSEQU&keywords=m2+pcie+to+sata&qid=1551554004&s=gateway&sprefix=m.2+pcie+to+,aps,200&sr=8-42

Can anyone confirm that this would work?
That looks like an adapter for an m.2 SATA drive to normal SATA III connection.
Not for the drive and use you're considering.
 

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It's a Sata adapter for sure. One that could interface NVME to a Sata port would have much more circuitry and components on it just to implement the PCIe bus alone.

As for Cloning, that will have to be done with a few NVME to USB adapters and a PC or a new NVME Cloning station. I don't see the likely-hood of anyone designing a chip to do the conversion to Sata, no money in it since you could just get a Sata SSD
 
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