[SOLVED] M.2 PCI E adaptor

[Amddefector]

Thinking of getting one of these adaptors to try and speed up my son's workstation a bit. It currently has a SAS SSD but it just isn't fast enough for a impatient kid!

Back to the main question will the adaptor perform as quick as a onboard m.2 slot please?

Thank you.

 

[USAFRet]

Thinking of getting one of these adaptors to try and speed up my son's workstation a bit. It currently has a SAS SSD but it just isn't fast enough for a impatient kid!

Back to the main question will the adaptor perform as quick as a onboard m.2 slot please?

Thank you.

What motherboard?

What does he use this system for?
Be very careful about user expectation. If he's thinking there might be a 5x speed boost in all uses...no.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YoRKQy-UO4

 

[Dj0gany]

Thinking of getting one of these adaptors to try and speed up my son's workstation a bit. It currently has a SAS SSD but it just isn't fast enough for a impatient kid!

Back to the main question will the adaptor perform as quick as a onboard m.2 slot please?

Thank you.

Just get a normal sata ssd.
There is very small difference (im talking miliseconds) between a good sata ssd and a m.2
I would recommend either samsung 860 rvo or crucial mx500.

 

[Amddefector]

What motherboard?

What does he use this system for?
Be very careful about user expectation. If he's thinking there might be a 5x speed boost in all uses...no.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YoRKQy-UO4

Hi its a hp z600 workstation, not sure of the mobo model.

He just uses it for gaming but with all the junk he's put on it the boot up time is several minutes. Some of the games take several minutes to load as well.

Thanks for the reply.

 

[USAFRet]

That is a software and system hardware problem, not a storage device problem.
"several minutes" to boot up won't be solved by adding an NVMe drive.

Can you get a list of all the parts in this system?

 

[Amddefector]

That is a software and system hardware problem, not a storage device problem.
"several minutes" to boot up won't be solved by adding an NVMe drive.

Can you get a list of all the parts in this system?

Hi yea it has
CPU 2x Xeon x5650
Mobo I'm unsure of I'll have a look soon
Ram 24gb ECC reg ddr3 pc2 5300
GPU gtx 1660 super
800gb Seagate nytro SAS SSD main
2tb Seagate Barracuda sata hd slave
The PSU is 650w I was thinking of upgrading this but the only one I can find to fit this workstation is 1200w I thought that was a bit ott?

Thanks.

 

[faalin]

Go to task manager click more details at the bottom and in the startup tab post a screenshot of everything running. Im guessing most of it doesnt need to startup with windows.

I have 24 items in my startup tab, only 4 are enabled. Anti virus, Sonic Suite 3, Sound Blaster Control Panel, and Windows Security Notification. The other 20 items dont need to start till i tell them to/ when i need them.

 

[USAFRet]

First, this is a 10 year old workstation. Not really suited to gaming. And games can't take advantage of the 2x CPU anyway.
Second, that slow response is almost certainly related to software. Too much junk in startup.

And if these games reside on the slow HDD, that is ALSO a factor.


Replacing the SAS SSD with NVMe is both not the solution, and won't work as the OS drive.

 

[Amddefector]

First, this is a 10 year old workstation. Not really suited to gaming. And games can't take advantage of the 2x CPU anyway.
Second, that slow response is almost certainly related to software. Too much junk in startup.

And if these games reside on the slow HDD, that is ALSO a factor.


Replacing the SAS SSD with NVMe is both not the solution, and won't work as the OS drive.

Ok thanks.

 

[Amddefector]

Go to task manager click more details at the bottom and in the startup tab post a screenshot of everything running. Im guessing most of it doesnt need to startup with windows.

I have 24 items in my startup tab, only 4 are enabled. Anti virus, Sonic Suite 3, Sound Blaster Control Panel, and Windows Security Notification. The other 20 items dont need to start till i tell them to/ when i need them.

There are a lot of startup programs most of which he says he needs. I thought a faster drive might cut some time off the startup but I guess hes just gonna have to live with it untill I can afford new hardware.

Thanks.

 

[USAFRet]

There are a lot of startup programs most of which he says he needs. I thought a faster drive might cut some time off the startup but I guess hes just gonna have to live with it untill I can afford new hardware.

Thanks.

Right.
That can't be fixed with a somewhat better storage device. That is simply the system processing through all that data.

 

[Amddefector]

Just get a normal sata ssd.
There is very small difference (im talking miliseconds) between a good sata ssd and a m.2
I would recommend either samsung 860 rvo or crucial mx500.

I thought sas had a advantage in transfer rates over sata?

 

[USAFRet]

I thought sas had a advantage in transfer rates over sata?

Not enough to notice.

 

[Amddefector]

Not enough to notice.

Ok. I've just remembered one of the computers we don't use at work I've just looked at has a Ryzen 5 3400g with a gigabyte a320m board. It has a M2 slot but not knowing much about AMD CPUs I don't know if that would be a upgrade or downgrade?

Thanks.

 

[USAFRet]

Ok. I've just remembered one of the computers we don't use at work I've just looked at has a Ryzen 5 3400g with a gigabyte a320m board. It has a M2 slot but not knowing much about AMD CPUs I don't know if that would be a upgrade or downgrade?

Thanks.

With sufficient RAM, the GTX 1660, and a SSD or two...that will make a fine gaming system.

 

[Amddefector]

Ok thanks a lot. It has a 8gb stick of Corsair vengeance ram in it. I'll order another 8gb and a ssd and give him that.

Thanks again.

 

[USAFRet]

Ok thanks a lot. It has a 8gb stick of Corsair vengeance ram in it. I'll order another 8gb and a ssd and give him that.

Thanks again.

1. Hopefully another 8GB will work with the existing. Mixing RAM is always a crapshoot. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not.
2. He will have to do a full OS install on this system, and get it set up how he likes it. Won't be able to migrate directly from the existing thing to this new Ryzen.

 

[Amddefector]

1. Hopefully another 8GB will work with the existing. Mixing RAM is always a crapshoot. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not.
2. He will have to do a full OS install on this system, and get it set up how he likes it. Won't be able to migrate directly from the existing thing to this new Ryzen.

Ok I've found another Corsair vengeance stick online same speed timings etc... Or do you mean if it's matched I might still have problems? Would it be better to buy a new matched pair please. I know when I built mine I had problems because the Ryzen 7 don't support 3600! Then the CPU I bought originally a Ryzen 9 wouldn't work in my b450 board even after a bios update. After all the years these computers can still be a headache.

I will put a fresh version of Windows on it for him then he can take it from there.

Thanks.

 

[USAFRet]

A new matched pair, bought as a set, WILL work.

The additional stick you found will PROBABLY work, but no guarantee.

Absolutely recommended to buy a single set.