M6000 or Titan X ?

[peaceduke]

Hello
M6000 costs almost 5000, titan X costs 1000
why ????? I don't understand that ...
their capabilities are almost same ..
I work with autodesk maya and I want best video card on the market. so, when I contacted Nvidia they said: quadro is for applications, GTX are for games, and that's all their agents say all the time ...nothing additional you will hear ...
well I know quadro for 3d apps , but I'm not ready to pay extra 4000 just because nvidia agents say its for applications, Maybe someone from you guys can say something new
why should I buy Quadro top card if I work in maya if I can buy Titan X with same 12Gb memory and bus and etc etc ....
HEELPP )))

 

[13thmonkey]

Well, 'you want the best video card on the market' so that the M6000 for your purpose. A good card is a different story.

The FP capabilities are different between the two cards and the driver sets. And the market is smaller, that's why they are more expensive.

 

[AdviserKulikov]

You can trick Nvidia into installing quadro drivers onto a standard card, there's no benefit with the exception of a few extra video out ports.

 

[tothergnome]

Professional Youtubers would get the M6000 because it's got drivers specially for video editing and rendering.

 

[peaceduke]

Well, 'you want the best video card on the market' so that the M6000 for your purpose. A good card is a different story.

The FP capabilities are different between the two cards and the driver sets. And the market is smaller, that's why they are more expensive.

I'm sorry but you do sound like Nvidia agent )) they just say if you want best performance you need to buy quadro
But I ask Why ??? the specs are same ... so you telling me they have some secret in driver that opens the monster ability ?)

 

[AdviserKulikov]

Professional Youtubers would get the M6000 because it's got drivers specially for video editing and rendering.

Umm... no. Professional youtubers just leave their videos to compile overnight. They do enough editing and such that they aren't putting out so much video per day a Titan can't handle it. Streamers might put out that much video, but they don't post it all to youtube, so twitch handles the backend stuff.

 

[peaceduke]

Professional Youtubers would get the M6000 because it's got drivers specially for video editing and rendering.

youtubers )))) ??? are you serious ? 5000 $ video card for video editing outputting
loool
so you are saying its all about drivers ? specs are same but drivers are only difference ?

 

[AdviserKulikov]

Well, 'you want the best video card on the market' so that the M6000 for your purpose. A good card is a different story.

The FP capabilities are different between the two cards and the driver sets. And the market is smaller, that's why they are more expensive.

I'm sorry but you do sound like Nvidia agent )) they just say if you want best performance you need to buy quadro
But I ask Why ??? the specs are same ... so you telling me they have some secret in driver that opens the monster ability ?)

The answer is: yes, there is a secret to the drivers for VERY special programs that only professionals use. The standard drivers operate at around 1/3 the speed for these couple of programs. The money to develop these drivers is impressive in cost, but limited in use, so they are only made available to those those pay in rather than raising the cost of standard cards by a couple dollars.

If you're the sort of person who needs these cards, you can expense it to the company account and nobody will bat an eye. If you're the sort of person who just likes technical fiddling and benchmarking, you can hack your drivers to get the pro ones, Nvidia isn't going after small users for such things.

 

[AdviserKulikov]

Professional Youtubers would get the M6000 because it's got drivers specially for video editing and rendering.

youtubers )))) ??? are you serious ? 5000 $ video card for video editing outputting
loool
so you are saying its all about drivers ? specs are same but drivers are only difference ?

Specs are almost identical, drivers are the only real changes. There were more differences in the past when professional rendering was the highest end stuff for things like toy story.

 

[peaceduke]

Well, 'you want the best video card on the market' so that the M6000 for your purpose. A good card is a different story.

The FP capabilities are different between the two cards and the driver sets. And the market is smaller, that's why they are more expensive.

I'm sorry but you do sound like Nvidia agent )) they just say if you want best performance you need to buy quadro
But I ask Why ??? the specs are same ... so you telling me they have some secret in driver that opens the monster ability ?)

The answer is: yes, there is a secret to the drivers for VERY special programs that only professionals use. The standard drivers operate at around 1/3 the speed for these couple of programs. The money to develop these drivers is impressive in cost, but limited in use, so they are only made available to those those pay in rather than raising the cost of standard cards by a couple dollars.

If you're the sort of person who needs these cards, you can expense it to the company account and nobody will bat an eye. If you're the sort of person who just likes technical fiddling and benchmarking, you can hack your drivers to get the pro ones, Nvidia isn't going after small users for such things.

karoche ... so you are saying that I can install quadro M6000 12Gb Maxwell Drivers on titan X (also Maxwell architecture) ? and it will work like M6000 inside maya ?

 

[AdviserKulikov]

karoche ... so you are saying that I can install quadro M6000 12Gb Maxwell Drivers on titan X (also Maxwell architecture) ? and it will work like M6000 inside maya ?

...sort of. I know people have upgraded older cards, but it required physical modifications to the boards to change the PCI-e device ID. Some devices offered bios only upgrades, I haven't had a need to do the deep digging to find it out, but you should be able to in theory.

UNLESS you are doing some major heavy duty stuff, it's not worth voiding your warranty on the card.

 

[peaceduke]

karoche ... so you are saying that I can install quadro M6000 12Gb Maxwell Drivers on titan X (also Maxwell architecture) ? and it will work like M6000 inside maya ?

...sort of. I know people have upgraded older cards, but it required physical modifications to the boards to change the PCI-e device ID. Some devices offered bios only upgrades, I haven't had a need to do the deep digging to find it out, but you should be able to in theory.

UNLESS you are doing some major heavy duty stuff, it's not worth voiding your warranty on the card.

agree about warranty ... I do heavy stuff but 5000 for card is real evil (((( I think titan x will do almost same job
at least I want to believe ))I convince myself ...