Mac Pro with 3.7 GHz quad-core Xeon Launches Tomorrow

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Yeah man, So I sold my car so I can get the top model.
The specs on this are really state of the art, so it will be interesting to see how it plays out in the real world.
There is a lot of competition in the workstation market and technology doesn't stand still, I hope they are working on the improved model now.
Might be interesting if they would ever consider an open version.

 
I wonder how many design compromises engineers had to make to please the art major hipster douches running this project.

It was the functional design of the iPod and iPhone that brought back apple, not this artsy fartsy crap.
 
I have to say, I like how much computing power they have packed into such a compact form factor. It is a neat looking product and a really cool idea from a thermal standpoint. Ha, COOL, get it, because it's about the thermals? Anyone? But in all seriousness, it is a neat concept.

Alas, with the given price, I am not entirely sure who their target market is. Most PD groups that I have worked with, small and large, are rocking "ugly" Dell workstation desktops. For the base price of one of these Mac Pro's, you could get two closely spec'ed ATX towers built. Sure, they would take up 4x the space (or more), but these generally live under the desk anyway.
 
"It was the functional design of the iPod and iPhone that brought back apple, not this artsy fartsy crap."
You sound uneducated or you actually don't know, dude. Most music recording industry, movie, graphic animation and such played on iPod and iPhone and other media players..are made using Mac software and computers.
 
The specs are pretty modest for the money, but people will pay just to have access to Mac software. I guess everyone is pretty much used to Apple charging about double what something is worth.
 
I cant find the AMD FirePro D300 on any site as far as specs go. Is this a custom part? Anytime a super expensive computer comes out I like to see how much the parts cost to see what I could built the same rig for myself minus the cool design. I have a feeling you could make the same speced computer for well under $2000. And having 2 fire pro cards makes me wonder why Apple is targeting the workstation crowd because you could most likely get 1 AMD/Nvidia card meant for gaming to out perform those 2 cards in anything other than workstation type tasks.
 


D300 and D700 are both custom parts that are essentially scaled down versions of current FirePro cards. A similar computer to the starting model of this would be around 2500 assuming you hit all points. The unusually high PC price is because we're talking workstation and server class parts here, not your standard off the shelf i7 and geforce card.

Also, yes, a gaming card would outperform a workstation card in gaming, but considering this is a workstation computer meant for things like audio/video production and CAD, I'm not sure gaming performance is a relevant benchmark.
 
So it will make a big difference to the dust mites in the carpet on the floor where it sits under your desk? I'd have more fun buying a workstation with equivalent power and taking the other $1,500, converting it to dollar bills and throwing them up in the air on a windy day.
 
@cburke82... The AMD FirePro D300 is the AMD W7000 with half the VRAM. It's a $700 card... So $300 away from being 1/3 the price of the computer.
 


He was referring to system design, not software design. Whether or not people use Macs in making stuff is completely irrelevant to what he said. On the flip side, I don't completely agree with him. Apple learned the marketing game early and played it incredibly well. Don't forget, the first iPhone didn't even release with third party app support. Compared to palm, Blackberry, and Windows mobile, it was a joke in regards to functionality. But it was pretty and intuitive, and Apple played that up as much as possible.
 
The only thing that really matters is the software that run on it, that it works, it talks to the thingies connected to it, and feels snappy, all while looking sexy.

Hopefully, the cylinder doesn't crack with constant heating and cooling cycles. I'm not looking up what materials are actually used.
 
I honestly don't know who they're marketing to either. most design firms I know run so many of these workstations that they could careless about what it looks like as long as it's reliable, functional, and cost efficient.

while these mac pros may be reliable, they are only functionally efficient if you take into account their small foot-print, and hardly cost efficient...
 
A quad core 3.7Ghz for $3,000? My gosh they must sure be proud of that case. I just built an eight core 4.0Ghz machine with a better graphics card and more memory for about half of that. Sad fact is there will be lemmings lining up to buy these thinking they are awesome at any price.
 
Its Apple. Logic flew out the window a long time ago. People buy Apple products primarily out of emotion, not logic. Use average quality parts, market it to people with limited amounts of judgment, and push the price up so your profits make you the hero of Wall Street. Most people that buy iMacs are completely ignorant of any knowledge of computer hardware: Hence the choice. In every field there are dullards: This is the computer world. No Apple product holds up to its competition. Because there are enough stupid people out there blindly willing to pay more to support Apple. You have this in many other industries worldwide.

People should design stuff to improve the world. Sadly, this is the last of Apple's aims. Its an embarrassment to American ingenuity. A total disgrace to the nation. Happily there are other companies that have their priorities on a much higher plain where they aim to do good first, then wait for the profits. And if they do well the profits will come. As they should. Nobody needs a $20,000,000 house. Yet millions strive for outlandishly priced goods just to look good to those around them. Sadly they are just as discontented with their lives as before. Actually, much more so because of all the worry relating to losing their new found wealth.
 
"A quad core 3.7Ghz for $3,000? My gosh they must sure be proud of that case. I just built an eight core 4.0Ghz machine with a better graphics card and more memory for about half of that. Sad fact is there will be lemmings lining up to buy these thinking they are awesome at any price. "

Good for you. The lemmings will most likely be movie studios, post production houses, music industry types, graphics designers, engineers, mapping services, you know, the people that this computer is (gasp!) aimed at.

Go back to Battlefield 4.

IB
 


My point being they are paying far more than they should just to have the little Apple logo.

BTW, I don't play Battlefield 4. I'm a software engineer, not a gamer so I know a thing or two about relying on your computer to do actual work.
 
Hope you weren't planning to reuse those PCIe cards in your current Mac Pros! We've advanced past internal expandability, so throw away those old storage, networking, and capture cards and buy new Thunderbolt versions! Just think of it as stimulating the economy.
 
"He was referring to system design, not software design. Whether or not people use Macs in making stuff is completely irrelevant to what he said. On the flip side, I don't completely agree with him. Apple learned the marketing game early and played it incredibly well. Don't forget, the first iPhone didn't even release with third party app support. Compared to palm, Blackberry, and Windows mobile, it was a joke in regards to functionality. But it was pretty and intuitive, and Apple played that up as much as possible."

Sure marketing was important, but it was the functional advantage of the iPod and iPhone over the competition that made Apple a household name again. Do you rember smart phones and MP3 players before the iPhone and iPod? I do. They were complete crap. Most MP3 players had used a plain old LCD display. Some were even backlit. Holly crap blackberry! If I was typing, I wouldn't be able to hear the phone ring over the crunching and crackling of the cheap plastic. No, what made the iPhone and iPod popular was that they were quality desirable products unlike anything on the market. Luckily there are much better options available today than what apple offers.
 
6 Core Dell Precision T3600 with 3 years of support starts at $2900, so the only real difference for the price is the SSD and the Mac OS? If you want to drop the clock speed you can get the dual quad core CPU T5600 stations for the $2900?

Dell stations of course favor Nvidia, but the dual card low or middle grade solutions are still in the sub $3000 range, if just barely.

Dry

Dry
 
Wow I hope this isn't a showing that most toms hardware readers are actually derpers? To answer almost every question posed so far this is a product targeting the hardcore workstation, not you or any basic consumer. Every comment so far stated before I wrote this has been by people who have no idea how this PC works, or details about the tech inside.

If you people are what a techie is today then I'm out, because I don't want to be associated with people who don't bother to actually learn the tech. The biggest irony is that you people are the people you are making fun of. You are the kind of people who bought Intel when Amd was the best, and then you bought Amd when core 2 duo came out, because you didn't bother to know the tech.

I honestly wish the comments section would just disappear entirely, I know I could just not read the filth spewing forth from it but, it's too hard not to look and it burns the eyes.

Die Trolls Die just Die Dammit.
 
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