Question Made an Error setting up WD4 TB drive. Only shows as 2TB!

Jun 30, 2019
14
0
10
0
Hi All,

I have a two bay Icy Box (Model IB-RD3620SU3). Whilst laboring under the misapprehension that putting in two discs as Raid1 would be a good way to back up my data I bought an extra Icybox enclosure to get another pair of discs up and running - 2 of these WD40EZRZ.

Somehow I ended up making a mess of formatting the first disc in and I think I told it that it was 2TB not 4TB. I was just using the basic format options in Windows 10. So in the drives box you can get up it now looks like this :

View: https://imgur.com/a/eoREZMW


I have tried various buttons, and also to see if the dmde program recommended to me in another solution would assist but I am not getting any obvious joy with that. Here is what it looks like in the dmde one:


View: https://imgur.com/a/RMeqp8g


I told it to put a partition in to see if that would some how assist but it has not. The screen print in the dmde application is what it looks like after I put the partition in.

What I am trying to achieve is to get it to a 4TB formatted drive which i can then use to try and start a proper back up system instead of the Raid1 fail.

Hopefully someone is able to assist.

Thanks in advance.

SJ
 

Aeacus

Glorious
Herald
Jun 30, 2019
14
0
10
0
It look like your partitioned your HDD in MBR (with max limit of 2TB) rather than in GPT. Here's a guide on how to change the partition table,
link: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/storage/disk-management/change-an-mbr-disk-into-a-gpt-disk

When possible, always use GPT since MBR is borderline obsolete with several limitations compared to GPT.
Further reading: https://www.howtogeek.com/193669/whats-the-difference-between-gpt-and-mbr-when-partitioning-a-drive/
Hi - thanks for that. I have just had a look. When I right click on the disc in the windows 10 screen, it offers me to transfer to MBR. Which makes me think it cannot already be MBR ? Also if I right click on properties and pick the volume tab it seems to suggest it is already GPT ? Here are the two screens :

View: https://imgur.com/a/VZyoOwc


SJ
 

Aeacus

Glorious
Herald
Well, if your HDD is in GPT and to make one single partition, you 1st need to unallocate the current 2TB partition in Disk Management, so Win would show all 4TB as unallocated. Then, allocate the partition again and this time, use the entire size of the drive as a single partition.
 
Jun 30, 2019
14
0
10
0
Well, if your HDD is in GPT and to make one single partition, you 1st need to unallocate the current 2TB partition in Disk Management, so Win would show all 4TB as unallocated. Then, allocate the partition again and this time, use the entire size of the drive as a single partition.
Hi - I've just about pressed all the buttons for options in the windows 10 disk management but nothing seems to offer the options you mention ?

SJ
 

Aeacus

Glorious
Herald
What's your source on that? Since IB-RD3620SU3 manual doesn't say any word about max 2TB limitation on it's firmware.

What manual does say (page 17, chapter 7) is:
"6. Under Windows Vista/7/8, users can enable GPT when initializing HDD with a total capacity of more than 2 TB."
manual: https://www.raidsonic.de/products/external_cases/soho_raid/IB-RD3620SU3/pdf/E_IB-3620_Series_manual_v1.1.pdf
The manual is wrong, unless it is referring to updated firmware.

My source is the sector range reported to DMDE by the Icy Box enclosure:

  • 0 to 3519069871
The actual size of a 4TB drive is 7814037168 sectors (according to IDEMA's formula).

https://www.google.com/search?q=97696368+++(1953504+x+(4000+–+50))+in+decimal

https://www.google.com/search?q=97696368+++(1953504+x+(enter_GB_here+–+50))+in+decimal

In hexadecimal this number becomes 0x1D1C0BEB0. This is a 33-bit number. If we discard the 33rd bit, then the number of sectors becomes 0xD1C0BEB0 ( = 3,519,069,872).
  • 0xD1C0BEB0 x 512 bytes = 1.80176377 terabytes
https://www.google.com/search?q=0xD1C0BEB0+x+512+bytes+in+TB

https://www.bing.com/search?q=0xd1c0beb0+in+decimal

LBA-Count-for-Disk-Drives-Standard-IDEMA:
http://idema.org/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=1223
 
Last edited:
Let me explain it another way, by using a decimal analogy.

Let's assume we have a hypothetical enclosure with a capacity limitation corresponding to 4 decimal digits. This means that the maximum size is 9999.

If we install a HDD with an actual size of 1234, the enclosure will correctly report a size of 1234.

If, instead, we install a HDD with a size of 12345, the enclosure will discard the leading "1" and report a reduced size of 2345.
 
Last edited:

Aeacus

Glorious
Herald
The manual is wrong, unless it is referring to updated firmware.

My source is the sector range reported to DMDE by the Icy Box enclosure:

  • 0 to 3519069871
The actual size of a 4TB drive is 7814037168 sectors (according to IDEMA's formula).

https://www.google.com/search?q=97696368+++(1953504+x+(4000+–+50))+in+decimal

https://www.google.com/search?q=97696368+++(1953504+x+(enter_GB_here+–+50))+in+decimal

In hexadecimal this number becomes 0x1D1C0BEB0. This is a 33-bit number. If we discard the 33rd bit, then the number of sectors becomes 0xD1C0BEB0 ( = 3,519,069,872).
  • 0xD1C0BEB0 x 512 bytes = 1.80176377 terabytes
https://www.google.com/search?q=0xD1C0BEB0+x+512+bytes+in+TB

https://www.bing.com/search?q=0xd1c0beb0+in+decimal

LBA-Count-for-Disk-Drives-Standard-IDEMA:
http://idema.org/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=1223
Well, your numbers are correct but what DMDE shows is: single drive with 2x partitions, 1st (upper) partition is allocated in 1.8 TB size while the other (lower) is unallocated, again in 1.8 TB in size.

OP did say that he messed up during drive format and partitioning, where he chose 2 TB instead of 4 TB, hence the two partitions on same drive:
Somehow I ended up making a mess of formatting the first disc in and I think I told it that it was 2TB not 4TB.
Given that both of OP's 4 TB drives are in the Icy Box, further proof of no firmware limitation is thanks to the Disk 3 seen in Disk Management. That drive has one single allocated partition of 3.7 TB in size. No limitation there.

Now, OP is looking to correct his error by seeking assistance in fixing it. I already said how to fix the partition issue and as long as OP doesn't reply back, we don't know if the issue is/was simple partition creation mix up or with the Icy Box firmware.
 
@Aeacus, with respect, you don't understand what DMDE is telling you. Those are not two 1.8TB partitions.

The first 1.8TB entry is indicating that the entire drive space is assigned to a GPT partitioning system. The second 1.8TB entry is the unallocated area available to the user for one or more volumes, after excluding the partition table array. The difference between the two entries is clear when you look at the sector ranges that they occupy. Specifically, the second 1.8TB entry is contained wholly within the first entry, ie they refer to the same space.

The user area starts at sector 34 and finishes at maxLBA - 33. The first 34 sectors (partition table array) are used by the GPT partitioning system. The sectors at the end of the drive are copies of those at the beginning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
https://thestarman.pcministry.com/asm/mbr/GPT.htm
 
Last edited:

ASK THE COMMUNITY

TRENDING THREADS