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[javi4911]

Hey everyone!

I was recommended to this site to get feedback on new builds on a desktop. Just wanted to know if this build would satisfy my needs. I mostly want to use this computer for gaming and personal use. I want this computer to last me a long time and my price range is less than $1200. i already have my tv as my monitor. Thank you for your help. I truly appreciate it.




EVGA SuperClocked GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 01G-P3-1563-AR Video Card
Item #:N82E16814130610
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
$254.99


Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit
Return Policy: Software Standard Return Policy
$99.99



ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
$19.99


RAIDMAX Tornado ATX-238WU Black / Blue SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
$49.99


COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible with Intel 1366/1155/775 and AMD FM1/FM2/AM3+
$34.99


Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I72600K
$319.99

Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
$109.99


G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL
$36.99


ALL FROM NEWEGG

 

[lt_dan_zsu]

Unless you are getting that 560ti for $180 then get this get a 7870. I noticed on newegg that 560ti was more expensive than almost all of them
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131466
the 7870 is stronger than a 580
Get an i5 3570k. It's cheaper and just as good for gaming.
Get this hard drive same quality cheaper $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840
Also format this way better, everything is listed at least 3 times.

 

[Deemo13]

Also, with a 3570K, a CPU cooler should be purchased so you can overclock in the future.

 

[strife_ff7]

This is a better build http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qEYp
You could add a ssd like the samsung 830 128gb for about $100 more to make the total around $1100.

 

[lt_dan_zsu]

Yes that is stronger but the one I suggested is also cheaper.

 

[strife_ff7]

Yes that is stronger but the one I suggested is also cheaper.

I meant it was better than his build.

 

[javi4911]

To my understanding, the radeon cards are a better bang for your buck, but I'm willing to spend the extra money for an nvidia card like the fermi's. What do you guys think? Do you think that would be worth it? And the i5 sounds like a good idea! And I'm definitely thinking bout the SSD, the improvement is massive but is 100$ extra. Thanks for the quick feedback!

 

[javi4911]

This is a better build http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qEYp
You could add a ssd like the samsung 830 128gb for about $100 more to make the total around $1100.

Hey Strife I was looking at your build and I am wondering if ASRock is a reliable company for motherboards.

 

[Deemo13]

They are pretty darn reliable imo. I've heard good things about them.

 

[mbreslin1954]

I've only had one ASRock, an H67M (bought it with my i5-2500) but it's still running two years later with no problems, and boy, does it boot past BIOS/UEFI and into Windows fast. My older Gigabyte boards (1st gen core) take twice as long or longer to get out of BIOS.

 

[lt_dan_zsu]

To my understanding, the radeon cards are a better bang for your buck, but I'm willing to spend the extra money for an nvidia card like the fermi's. What do you guys think? Do you think that would be worth it? And the i5 sounds like a good idea! And I'm definitely thinking bout the SSD, the improvement is massive but is 100$ extra. Thanks for the quick feedback!

No it isn't. The 7870 is about as strong or stronger than 2 560ti's in sli. Fermi is just an architecture and means nothing.

 

[burntpizza]

To my understanding, the radeon cards are a better bang for your buck, but I'm willing to spend the extra money for an nvidia card like the fermi's. What do you guys think? Do you think that would be worth it? And the i5 sounds like a good idea! And I'm definitely thinking bout the SSD, the improvement is massive but is 100$ extra. Thanks for the quick feedback!

Theres no reason to that, AMD are just as reliable as Nvidia cards. Radeon 7870 curb stomps GTX 560 ti and it can even go higher than GTX 680 performance when overclocked, which is as much as 50% faster than 560 ti. As said before, it matches GTX 580 performance. All for the same price as gtx 560 ti.


If you don't believe me, some benchs for you. 😉

http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/page3.html

Not once did GTX 560 ti won, even the lesser radeon hd 7850($180) performs better.


Really no reason to pay more for less when both company have similar quality products. I got no clue why GTX 560 ti is priced so high, it is an awesome card, but its pricing is a bit behind.

 

[javi4911]

For the SSD, I'm planning on getting Samsung 128 GB. What do you think?

 

[Xlerator]

Asrock is a reliable company it came from ASUS. Asus is known for its quality and customer service. I agreed the 7870 is good! For SSD, get the Samsung 830 128GB for os, programs. Then get a 1tb hdd for storage.

 

[Goodeggray]

I would replace the raismax case with a Corsair 200r from Newegg. It's $30 after a $20 mir. Even at lisi it's the same price but it's a much better case and far easier to build in.

 

[Guest]

Theres no reason to that, AMD are just as reliable as Nvidia cards. Radeon 7870 curb stomps GTX 560 ti and it can even go higher than GTX 680 performance when overclocked, which is as much as 50% faster than 560 ti. As said before, it matches GTX 580 performance. All for the same price as gtx 560 ti.


If you don't believe me, some benchs for you. 😉

http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/page3.html

Not once did GTX 560 ti won, even the lesser radeon hd 7850($180) performs better.


Really no reason to pay more for less when both company have similar quality products. I got no clue why GTX 560 ti is priced so high, it is an awesome card, but its pricing is a bit behind.

^this.
Although this generation the nvidia cards do seem a bit better. That said, the 7870 is superior to the 560.
btw when hes saying it goes higher than the 680 when overclocked, hes saying an oc'd 7870 can out preform a stock 680. But then again an oc'ing improved many things by significant percentages

 

[lt_dan_zsu]

^How is nvidia better at all. I thought everyone agreed nvidia was destroyed by amd this year. Their cards overclock better and were far cheaper.

 

[Deemo13]

I thought I agreed with that.

 

[seriousgamer]

Make sure you check all different websites and stores for prices.

Like for example, you listed an I7-2600k for $319 you said your buying. At microcenter it usually runs for $210. Check different websites again (Microcenter, Newegg, NCIX, Tigerdirect <-- although I dislike their service) to get the best deals!

 

[Guest]

^How is nvidia better at all. I thought everyone agreed nvidia was destroyed by amd this year. Their cards overclock better and were far cheaper.

On the contrary I have heard the opposite from every person I've talked to. Indeed the amd cards were cheaper but the market sales were distinctly nvidia. That means they did better. Also I think the 690 was better than the 7990 and all benchmarks agree with this. Note they are benchmarks and ingame performance should be the same. Also the 670 is arguably the most successful card of the year.
In a evaluation entirely ignoring sales, I've also heard and seen from most benchmarks nvidia domination. If you have a site with amd domination please share it

 

[javi4911]

Hey everyone,

After looking at all your advice and through extensive research, I finally came to a build that I feel is the best for my needs and my budget. I want to thank all of you for your input and your help I was given for my build. The parts are shipped and on their way. Now I just have to assemble it. Once again, thank you all!!


Here is the list of parts I ordered:

1 x SAPPHIRE 100352-2L Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
$299.99

1 x Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
$214.99

1 CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
$69.99

1 x Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - OEM
$69.99

1 x Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm Fan, 1x Rear 120mm Fan, option Fans-2x Side 120mm Fan
$49.99

1 x CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Profile Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9
$39.99

1 x COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible with Intel 1366/1155/775 and AMD FM1/FM2/AM3+
$34.99

1 x Logitech G300 Black/Gray 9 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Wired Optical 2500 dpi Gaming Mouse
$31.99

1 x AS Rock LGA1155 DDR3 SATA3 USB3.0 Quad CrossFireX and Quad SLI A GbE ATX Motherboard Z77 EXTREME4
$155.82

1 x SAMSUNG DVD Burner 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA Model SH-224BB - OEM
$15.99

1 x LITE-ON SK-1788/BS 2-Tone 104 Normal Keys PS/2 Wired Standard Keyboard
$7.99

1 x Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack
$91.99

Grand Total: $1,100 (Estimate)

 

[lt_dan_zsu]

On the contrary I have heard the opposite from every person I've talked to. Indeed the amd cards were cheaper but the market sales were distinctly nvidia. That means they did better. Also I think the 690 was better than the 7990 and all benchmarks agree with this. Note they are benchmarks and ingame performance should be the same. Also the 670 is arguably the most successful card of the year.
In a evaluation entirely ignoring sales, I've also heard and seen from most benchmarks nvidia domination. If you have a site with amd domination please share it

Well sales might be better, but that is because people are dumb. There was a point this year when nvidia was better. But that time past. This year every card by amd beats it counterpart price for performance. Also. the 7990 is a stupid example to site. It was not made by amd, it was made by 3rd parties. Even if the 690 is better though, the 7990 is also over $100 less, so it still wins ppp.

 

[Guest]

Well sales might be better, but that is because people are dumb. There was a point this year when nvidia was better. But that time past. This year every card by amd beats it counterpart price for performance. Also. the 7990 is a stupid example to site. It was not made by amd, it was made by 3rd parties. Even if the 690 is better though, the 7990 is also over $100 less, so it still wins ppp.

price to performance I have yet to see a year where amd didn't win or come close. That said, in card "levels" I dont see AMD winning in plain performance. From the benchmarks i see, its the opposite result...can you post some that support the amd side? Also you are right the 7990 is less, BUT at that price point I dont think the buyer cares much about money......Everyone I know who has a 690/7990 didn't go online or to the store with the thought of savings in their brains.

 

[lt_dan_zsu]

Here is a decent on comparing before and after 12.11 drivers.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/5.html
All the high end amd cards went up a tier in performance basically. A lot of reviewers even said the 7870 felt like a different card. So, with the 12.11 drivers it would be stupid not to go amd. And I see what you mean about the 690 lol.
But anyways, back to the main post, yes your build looks good. Get it.

 

[Guest]

Here is a decent on comparing before and after 12.11 drivers.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/5.html
All the high end amd cards went up a tier in performance basically. A lot of reviewers even said the 7870 felt like a different card. So, with the 12.11 drivers it would be stupid not to go amd. And I see what you mean about the 690 lol.
But anyways, back to the main post, yes your build looks good. Get it.

Agreed-good build.


Separate note-from the results, I agree, the 7870 got better, but the 7970 as well as 7950 seem inconclusive/not better.....Ill give you that the 7870 is better now than the 650 ti, but I still stand that the 670 is better than the 7950, the 680 is better than the 7970, and the 690 situation is different so I won't go into that.