Mantle vs Non-Mantle Star Swarm Results

[Sigmanick]

With the recent release of Star Swarm on Steam, and the upcoming 14.1 Mantle Drivers for AMD GCN cards, has anyone downloaded and performed any testing yet?

At this time 14.1 beta is not yet released, here are my resuts on 13-12 drivers. AMD fx-6300, Asus DCUII 7850 2GB ddr5, Win 8.1, Seagate 7200rpm hdd

Here is mine, how is yours hangin?

output file based on extreme preset. and Direct3d
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series
CPU: AuthenticAMD
AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor
Physical Cores: 3
Logical Cores: 6
Physical Memory: 8532627456
Allocatable Memory: 140737488224256
API: DirectX
Scenario: ScenarioFollow.csv
User Input: Disabled
Resolution: 1920x1080
Fullscreen: True
GameCore Update: 16.6 ms
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
ToneCurve Quality: High
Glare Overdraw: 16
Shading Samples: 64
Shade Quality: Mid
Deferred Contexts: Disabled
Temporal AA Duration: 16
Temporal AA Time Slice: 2
Detailed Frame Info: C:\Users\Nicholas\Documents\Star Swarm\FrameDump_14_01_31_1821.csv
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== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 8033

Average FPS: 22.31
Average Unit Count: 4117
Maximum Unit Count: 5504
Average Batches/MS: 409.49
Maximum Batches/MS: 782.64
Average Batch Count: 20548
Maximum Batch Count: 126459

 

[Master-flaw]

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Oxide Games
Star Swarm Stress Test - ©2013
C:\Users\Michael\Documents\Star Swarm\Output_14_02_01_0128.txt
Version 1.00
02/01/2014 01:28
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== Hardware Configuration =================================
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series
CPU: AuthenticAMD
AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor
Physical Cores: 4
Logical Cores: 8
Physical Memory: 8503037952
Allocatable Memory: 140737488224256
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== Configuration ==========================================
API: DirectX
Scenario: ScenarioRTS.csv
User Input: Disabled
Resolution: 1920x1080
Fullscreen: True
GameCore Update: 16.6 ms
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
ToneCurve Quality: High
Glare Overdraw: 16
Shading Samples: 64
Shade Quality: Mid
Deferred Contexts: Disabled
Temporal AA Duration: 16
Temporal AA Time Slice: 2
Detailed Frame Info: Off
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== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 2434

Average FPS: 6.76
Average Unit Count: 3863
Maximum Unit Count: 5707
Average Batches/MS: 707.61
Maximum Batches/MS: 905.84
Average Batch Count: 103285
Maximum Batch Count: 168707
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8350's oced to 4.5
7950's(used one card)@1350(mem)/1050(core)
8.1
8 of 1600mhz
13.12, latest AMD driver as of the 30th. Hatachi 7200RPM(will use SSD tomorrow after HDD tests.)

This is the RTS stress test...pretty brutal...even 300% won't make that playable lol.
Will do more tomorrow with sli and the follow test tomorrow.


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Oxide Games
Star Swarm Stress Test - ©2013
C:\Users\Michael\Documents\Star Swarm\Output_14_02_01_0142.txt
Version 1.00
02/01/2014 01:42
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== Hardware Configuration =================================
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series
CPU: AuthenticAMD
AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor
Physical Cores: 4
Logical Cores: 8
Physical Memory: 8503037952
Allocatable Memory: 140737488224256
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== Configuration ==========================================
API: DirectX
Scenario: ScenarioFollow.csv
User Input: Disabled
Resolution: 1920x1080
Fullscreen: True
GameCore Update: 16.6 ms
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
ToneCurve Quality: High
Glare Overdraw: 16
Shading Samples: 64
Shade Quality: Mid
Deferred Contexts: Disabled
Temporal AA Duration: 16
Temporal AA Time Slice: 2
Detailed Frame Info: Off
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== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 9347

Average FPS: 25.96
Average Unit Count: 4233
Maximum Unit Count: 5483
Average Batches/MS: 462.17
Maximum Batches/MS: 994.98
Average Batch Count: 19979
Maximum Batch Count: 137913
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This is for follow...as of now it doesn't look as though the extra cores of my 8350 is doing much...probably the overclock doing more of the work in the slight advantage there and the GPU... Though it looks like batch count can vary from test to test so this may be a tough one to get accurate readings from.

 

[smeezekitty]

64 bit only WTF? I just downloaded 400 MB to find out it won't run.

 

[Master-flaw]

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Oxide Games
Star Swarm Stress Test - ©2013
C:\Users\Michael\Documents\Star Swarm\Output_14_02_02_0107.txt
Version 1.00
02/02/2014 01:07
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== Hardware Configuration =================================
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series
CPU: AuthenticAMD
AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor
Physical Cores: 4
Logical Cores: 8
Physical Memory: 8503037952
Allocatable Memory: 140737488224256
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== Configuration ==========================================
API: Mantle
Scenario: ScenarioRTS.csv
User Input: Disabled
Resolution: 1920x1080
Fullscreen: True
GameCore Update: 16.6 ms
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
ToneCurve Quality: High
Glare Overdraw: 16
Shading Samples: 64
Shade Quality: Mid
Deferred Contexts: Disabled
Temporal AA Duration: 16
Temporal AA Time Slice: 2
Detailed Frame Info: Off
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== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 5695

Average FPS: 15.82
Average Unit Count: 3864
Maximum Unit Count: 5705
Average Batches/MS: 1405.25
Maximum Batches/MS: 1853.27
Average Batch Count: 91456
Maximum Batch Count: 172968
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Same set-up as my first post though it picked up my XT as my main card when choosing a single GPU...weird.
RTS stress
6.76-D3D
15.82-Mantle

 

[Sigmanick]

Went to Microcenter last night and could not resist the urge to pick up the fx 8320 and a couple of SSD's. I will be updating tomorrow.

 

[Mousemonkey]

Well it runs like pants on a single 660Ti, I wonder if there is any truth that the default settings cripple the performance on Nvidia cards and Intel CPU's? :lol:

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Oxide Games
Star Swarm Stress Test - ©2013
C:\Users\MMSB64\Documents\Star Swarm\Output_14_02_02_1917.txt
Version 1.00
02/02/2014 19:17
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== Hardware Configuration =================================
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti
CPU: GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
Physical Cores: 4
Logical Cores: 8
Physical Memory: 8555479040
Allocatable Memory: 8796092891136
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== Configuration ==========================================
API: DirectX
Scenario: ScenarioFollow.csv
User Input: Disabled
Resolution: 1920x1080
Fullscreen: True
GameCore Update: 16.6 ms
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
ToneCurve Quality: High
Glare Overdraw: 16
Shading Samples: 64
Shade Quality: Mid
Deferred Contexts: Disabled
Temporal AA Duration: 16
Temporal AA Time Slice: 2
Detailed Frame Info: Off
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== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 11109

Average FPS: 30.86
Average Unit Count: 4074
Maximum Unit Count: 5339
Average Batches/MS: 675.83
Maximum Batches/MS: 1601.95
Average Batch Count: 22158
Maximum Batch Count: 121431
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[jznightmare]

 

[Mousemonkey]

If this demo is a Mantle showcase and so had the default settings suggested by AMD then it's a really bad PR stunt because the performance on Nvidia cards seems to be crippled on purpose.

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Oxide Games
Star Swarm Stress Test - ©2013
C:\Users\MMSB64\Documents\Star Swarm\Output_14_02_02_1942.txt
Version 1.00
02/02/2014 19:42
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== Hardware Configuration =================================
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti
CPU: GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
Physical Cores: 4
Logical Cores: 8
Physical Memory: 8555479040
Allocatable Memory: 8796092891136
===========================================================


== Configuration ==========================================
API: DirectX
Scenario: ScenarioFollow.csv
User Input: Disabled
Resolution: 1920x1080
Fullscreen: True
GameCore Update: 16.6 ms
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
ToneCurve Quality: High
Glare Overdraw: 16
Shading Samples: 64
Shade Quality: Mid
Deferred Contexts: Enabled
Temporal AA Duration: 16
Temporal AA Time Slice: 2
Detailed Frame Info: Off
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== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 31318

Average FPS: 86.99
Average Unit Count: 4726
Maximum Unit Count: 6064
Average Batches/MS: 286.88
Maximum Batches/MS: 1596.09
Average Batch Count: 3443
Maximum Batch Count: 18978
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Change two settings and it goes like stink! :lol:

 

[smeezekitty]

Well it runs like pants on a single 660Ti, I wonder if there is any truth that the default settings cripple the performance on Nvidia cards and Intel CPU's? :lol:

That isn't so bad. It beat the 7950 above it.

 

[Mousemonkey]

Well it runs like pants on a single 660Ti, I wonder if there is any truth that the default settings cripple the performance on Nvidia cards and Intel CPU's? :lol:

That isn't so bad. It beat the 7950 above it.

Ta for that but I still have to wonder about the default settings.

SLi is interesting as well, the average fps drops but the batch count goes up a bit.

Oxide Games
Star Swarm Stress Test - ©2013
C:\Users\MMSB64\Documents\Star Swarm\Output_14_02_02_2028.txt
Version 1.00
02/02/2014 20:28
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== Hardware Configuration =================================
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti
CPU: GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
Physical Cores: 4
Logical Cores: 8
Physical Memory: 8555479040
Allocatable Memory: 8796092891136
===========================================================


== Configuration ==========================================
API: DirectX
Scenario: ScenarioFollow.csv
User Input: Disabled
Resolution: 1920x1080
Fullscreen: True
GameCore Update: 16.6 ms
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
ToneCurve Quality: High
Glare Overdraw: 16
Shading Samples: 64
Shade Quality: Mid
Deferred Contexts: Enabled
Temporal AA Duration: 16
Temporal AA Time Slice: 2
Detailed Frame Info: Off
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== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 28563

Average FPS: 79.34
Average Unit Count: 4788
Maximum Unit Count: 6171
Average Batches/MS: 316.99
Maximum Batches/MS: 1579.30
Average Batch Count: 4292
Maximum Batch Count: 23510
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[Master-flaw]

Well it runs like pants on a single 660Ti, I wonder if there is any truth that the default settings cripple the performance on Nvidia cards and Intel CPU's? :lol:

That isn't so bad. It beat the 7950 above it.

To note my first post was D3D and the second one was the RTS stress which is much more intensive...

Regardless..what he's getting is an example of there stress test on Direct X...not mantle...you need the 14.1 catalyst drivers in order to test out mantle.

 

[Mousemonkey]

Well it runs like pants on a single 660Ti, I wonder if there is any truth that the default settings cripple the performance on Nvidia cards and Intel CPU's? :lol:

That isn't so bad. It beat the 7950 above it.

To note my first post was D3D and the second one was the RTS stress which is much more intensive...

Regardless..what he's getting is an example of there stress test on Direct X...not mantle...you need the 14.1 catalyst drivers in order to test out mantle.

I would also have to install my 7790 but I can't be bothered! :lol:

 

[Cazalan]

Seems like a useless benchmark. I couldn't imaging they will make a game people will buy with it. I could barely tolerate running it twice. Too boring to watch.

 

[Sigmanick]

Here's my Mantle run (no upgrades yet). I have almost doubled the total frames. and my Avg frames are up 50%.

I wonder why some of the NVidia/Intel setups had such low batch counts?



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Star Swarm Stress Test - ©2013
C:\Users\Nicholas\Documents\Star Swarm\Output_14_02_02_2025.txt
Version 1.00
02/02/2014 20:25
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== Hardware Configuration =================================
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series
CPU: AuthenticAMD
AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor
Physical Cores: 3
Logical Cores: 6
Physical Memory: 8532627456
Allocatable Memory: 140737488224256
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== Configuration ==========================================
API: Mantle
Scenario: ScenarioFollow.csv
User Input: Disabled
Resolution: 1920x1080
Fullscreen: True
GameCore Update: 16.6 ms
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
ToneCurve Quality: High
Glare Overdraw: 16
Shading Samples: 64
Shade Quality: Mid
Deferred Contexts: Disabled
Temporal AA Duration: 16
Temporal AA Time Slice: 2
Detailed Frame Info: C:\Users\Nicholas\Documents\Star Swarm\FrameDump_14_02_02_2025.csv
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== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 13064

Average FPS: 36.29
Average Unit Count: 4420
Maximum Unit Count: 5487
Average Batches/MS: 652.21
Maximum Batches/MS: 1730.47
Average Batch Count: 19501
Maximum Batch Count: 146235
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[Mousemonkey]

Here's my Mantle run (no upgrades yet). I have almost doubled the total frames. and my Avg frames are up 50%.

I wonder why some of the NVidia/Intel setups had such low batch counts?

Yeah I was looking at that.

 

[renz496]

i haven't test it myself but it seems enabling deferred context give performance boost on nvidia card. what about amd card?

 

[Mousemonkey]

i haven't test it myself but it seems enabling deferred context give performance boost on nvidia card. what about amd card?

Disabling motion blur also gives Nvidia cards a boost and makes the demo watch-able without inducing nausea. :lol:

 

[renz496]

i haven't test it myself but it seems enabling deferred context give performance boost on nvidia card. what about amd card?

Disabling motion blur also gives Nvidia cards a boost and makes the demo watch-able without inducing nausea. :lol:

well i mean enabling deferred context can boost the performance. does it do the same on amd hardware with deferred boost enabled?

 

[Mousemonkey]

i haven't test it myself but it seems enabling deferred context give performance boost on nvidia card. what about amd card?

Disabling motion blur also gives Nvidia cards a boost and makes the demo watch-able without inducing nausea. :lol:

well i mean enabling deferred context can boost the performance. does it do the same on amd hardware with deferred boost enabled?

You're right it does but I don't know what affect it has on AMD cards, I was just adding that a further boost can be had by disabling motion blur.

 

[itayel]

basically with mantle average fps was 46 and minimum was about 21 using an r9 280x
with d3d it got to unplayable levels like 5 fps so i left it

 

[Mousemonkey]

basically with mantle average fps was 46 and minimum was about 21 using an r9 280x
with d3d it got to unplayable levels like 5 fps so i left it

Was that with the default settings or with the changes?

 

[itayel]

basically with mantle average fps was 46 and minimum was about 21 using an r9 280x
with d3d it got to unplayable levels like 5 fps so i left it

Was that with the default settings or with the changes?

extreme quality and attract

 

[Sigmanick]

Okay, so Star Swarm updated let's see what the damage is.

Um not much difference from the initial Mantle release.


Oxide Games
Star Swarm Stress Test - ©2013
C:\Users\Nicholas\Documents\Star Swarm\Output_14_02_04_2017.txt
Version 1.00
02/04/2014 20:17
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== Hardware Configuration =================================
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series
CPU: AuthenticAMD
AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor
Physical Cores: 3
Logical Cores: 6
Physical Memory: 8532627456
Allocatable Memory: 140737488224256
===========================================================


== Configuration ==========================================
API: Mantle
Scenario: ScenarioFollow.csv
User Input: Disabled
Resolution: 1920x1080
Fullscreen: True
GameCore Update: 16.6 ms
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
ToneCurve Quality: High
Glare Overdraw: 16
Shading Samples: 64
Shade Quality: Mid
Deferred Contexts: Disabled
Temporal AA Duration: 16
Temporal AA Time Slice: 2
Detailed Frame Info: Off
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== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 11367

Average FPS: 31.57
Average Unit Count: 4024
Maximum Unit Count: 5345
Average Batches/MS: 710.88
Maximum Batches/MS: 2343.13
Average Batch Count: 25519
Maximum Batch Count: 118826
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