Marvell Console Driver and SSD

[lkmellone]

Just a quick question.
I've just got a new SSD for myself, a 850EVO by Samsung. Well, I installed it on my GSATA3 port (I know it's crappy, but I plan updating my mobo soon) and I was wondering if I should install Marvell Console Driver as my SATA 3 driver or just leave the MS driver there.
Also, would this boost or tweak my performance?

I already have installed the OS (win10) in my SSD.
My mobo is a Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4

thanks!

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

Leave the Microsoft driver.

 

[lkmellone]

Ok then
So, what could I do to tweak it? I already made everything like not allowing windows do defrag, changing registry values, etc, etc.
I'm not getting very good reads and writes. Is this a problem with GSATA3?

 

[USAFRet]

Ok then
So, what could I do to tweak it? I already made everything like not allowing windows do defrag, changing registry values, etc, etc.
I'm not getting very good reads and writes. Is this a problem with GSATA3?

What do you mean, specifically, by "changing registry values" ?

 

[lkmellone]

Ok then
So, what could I do to tweak it? I already made everything like not allowing windows do defrag, changing registry values, etc, etc.
I'm not getting very good reads and writes. Is this a problem with GSATA3?

What do you mean, specifically, by "changing registry values" ?

Disabling Prefetch and Superfetch, Clearpagefileatshutdown, largesystemcache and so on...

Actually, system boot is very fast, apps booting fairly quickly (but sometimes not as much) but my CrystalDiskMark benchmark is not quite straight forward.

 

[boju]

Looks like the Marvell Sata 3 controller on that mobo is a waste of time for an SSD. Better off sticking with Sata 2 for better performance until you get a new mobo with Intel/AMD Sata 3 chipset ports.

http://techgage.com/article/battle_of_the_sata_30_controllers/

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2227791

 

[lkmellone]

Looks like the Marvell Sata 3 controller on that mobo is a waste of time for an SSD. Better off sticking with Sata 2 for better performance until you get a new mobo with Intel/AMD Sata 3 chipset ports.

http://techgage.com/article/battle_of_the_sata_30_controllers/

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2227791

Actually, in the Marvell Sata 3, I have better results than Sata 2. If you want, I can post the benchmark screen.

 

[boju]

It maybe so, you don't need to i believe you. According to the guy at Anandtech it's not for him.

Point being, your SSD is still not getting the performance on Marvell's controller obviously, so tweaking this and that won't do much.

 

[USAFRet]

On my Gigabyte motherboard, the Marvell Sata 3 is faster than the regular SATA 2, but significantly slower than the native Intel SATA 3.

 

[boju]

Fair enough, probably the guy at Anand is doing something wrong. So Marvell just hasn't delivered and should clear some misconception for Ikmellone as it being described as Sata 3 but not quite the level in performance you'd expect.

Theres an optimise option for your SSD in Windows10, not sure how good it is. Had Win10 for a bit and seen the option, forget where it is exactly, you might have done that already.

 

[USAFRet]

Fair enough, probably the guy at Anand is doing something wrong. So Marvell just hasn't delivered and should clear some misconception for Ikmellone as it being described as Sata 3 but not quite the level in performance you'd expect.

Theres an optimise option for your SSD in Windows10, not sure how good it is. Had Win10 for a bit and seen the option, forget where it is exactly, you might have done that already.

No, this is on my 8.1 Pro system. Not Win 10 yet.

 

[boju]

Oh sorry i meant that last line for Ikmellone. Guess its good to know anyway if you ever did go Win10 and have a look at it.

 

[USAFRet]

Ah, OK.

 

[lkmellone]

Well, I know drives and tweaks won't do anything now. Marvell is not a good interface and I really plan getting a new mobo to match my ssd performance (as well as upgrading the entire build)
I asked because I just wanted to see if anything could do a little better for the time I don't change my mobo. But yeah, it's a port "issue" that can't be fixed by just doing some tweaks...

Anyway, my ssd is not performing bad, it's good if you don't consider some write speeds..
It's just a bit frustrating because Gigabyte anounces it as being full SATA3 on ads (like at the box and the manual), but it is actually a Marvell controlled GSATA3.

Also, if I change my mobo to one that supports a full SATA6Gb/s, I don't need to format the ssd and reinstall OS right? I'll just plug and have the expected performance?

 

[boju]

It's best to reinstall as you will have problems.

Is your Windows10 oem/retail and was it an upgrade?

 

[lkmellone]

It's best to reinstall as you will have problems.

Is your Windows10 oem/retail and was it an upgrade?

Nope, I did a clean install...

 

[boju]

So you bought Windows10? as oem or retail?

I'm asking because oem is motherboard restrictive in activation but doable. Just a heads up that just changing the motherboard is not as simple. Retail is not a problem.

 

[lkmellone]

So you bought Windows10? as oem or retail?

I'm asking because oem is motherboard restrictive in activation but doable. Just a heads up that just changing the motherboard is not as simple. Retail is not a problem.

Ah, well, I upgraded from Windows 7 in a old Hard Drive, then installed a SSD and a new HDD and activated it. I don't know if it's activated by my MAC Address or my Microsoft Account (anyone knows about this?). But you're right, if I change my motherboard, maybe the activation will not work in a reinstall. Thinking in that way, should I really reinstall the system when I move to a new motherboard?

 

[USAFRet]

So you bought Windows10? as oem or retail?

I'm asking because oem is motherboard restrictive in activation but doable. Just a heads up that just changing the motherboard is not as simple. Retail is not a problem.

Ah, well, I upgraded from Windows 7 in a old Hard Drive, then installed a SSD and a new HDD and activated it. I don't know if it's activated by my MAC Address or my Microsoft Account (anyone knows about this?). But you're right, if I change my motherboard, maybe the activation will not work in a reinstall. Thinking in that way, should I really reinstall the system when I move to a new motherboard?

The general thought is that it is by the motherboard SN, and probably other info. Not your MS account or MAC address.

 

[boju]

So you bought Windows10? as oem or retail?

I'm asking because oem is motherboard restrictive in activation but doable. Just a heads up that just changing the motherboard is not as simple. Retail is not a problem.

Ah, well, I upgraded from Windows 7 in a old Hard Drive, then installed a SSD and a new HDD and activated it. I don't know if it's activated by my MAC Address or my Microsoft Account (anyone knows about this?). But you're right, if I change my motherboard, maybe the activation will not work in a reinstall. Thinking in that way, should I really reinstall the system when I move to a new motherboard?

Sorry for late reply.

Whats going to happen now when you change the motherboard is its not going to activate online. Will need to ring the automated number and might need to get onto customer service and tell them your original motherboard died. Be nice and they might activate you. - That's if your os is oem, you still haven't answered my question yet if Win10 is oem or retail. Win10 upgrade will follow the same edition as the previous os. So if you bought Win7 retail, your Win10 will be retail and it wont matter if the motherboard is changed out.

Reinstalling is best after a motherboard change. There are a lot of device drivers installed for the previous motherboard that wont agree with the new motherboard and the operating system wont be happy chappy either with all of those devices gone. Your system wont be running very good at all.