Question MEGA PC BUILD ADVISE!

[FlewDesigns]

Hey! looking to get a new mega pc to do all of the following..

High end 3D Work using Autodesk Maya/Vray
Unreal Engine Realtime rendering
Retouching
Video editing
etc.

My budget is around £3000-5000

I was thinking of just getting it pre-built as comparing prices it doesnt look like they put a massive markup on the price but not totally convinced

Do you think this is a great Rig and will last a long while?

Price £4,186.00

https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/Hyper-Liquid-Ryzen-X

• *BASE_PRICE: [+3799]
• BLUETOOTH: None Selected
• CAS: Corsair 5000D High Airflow Gaming Case - Black - No Fans Included [-41]
• CD: None Selected
• COOL: Mayhems X1 ECO Premixed Coolant - UV Orange
• COOL2: None Selected
• CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D - 16-Core 4.20GHz, 5.70GHz Turbo - 128MB L3 Cache Processor, Pro OC Compatible w/ Radeon Graphics
• CS_FAN: None Selected
• ENGRAVING: None
• EXCD: None Selected
• EXPAN: Built-in USB Ports
• FAN: Hyper Liquid Cooling - EK Hardcore Kit - Rigid Tube
• HDD: 4TB Seagate IronWolf Pro SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM Hard Drive [+101] (1 Drive)
• HOLIDAY1: Norton 360 VPN & Security for Gamers (Full 1 Year License) [+0]
• KEYBOARD: None Selected
• M2SSD: 2TB Solidigm P41 Plus M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD - 4125MB/s Read & 3325MB/s Write [+41] (Single Drive)
• M2SSD2: 2TB WD Black SN850X M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD - 7300MB/s Read & 6600MB/s Write [+168] (Single Drive)
• MEMORY: 64GB (4x16GB) DDR5/5600mhz Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB Memory [+118]
• MONITOR: None Selected
• MOTHERBOARD: MSI Pro X670-P WIFI: ATX w/ PCIe 4.0, USB 3.2, SATA3, 4x M.2
• MOUSE: None Selected
• NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT -- As standard on all PCs
• OS: Windows 11 Home - with FREE trial of Microsoft 365 and 1 month Xbox Game Pass (64-bit Edition) (No Recovery Media)
• OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
• PCABLE: None Selected
• POWERSUPPLY: MSI MPG A1000G 1000W 80+ ATX 3.0 Gold Modular Gaming Power Supply
• RAID: None Selected
• RUSH: Standard Processing Time
• SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD AUDIO
• SPEAKERS: None Selected
• SSD: None Selected
• STREAMERGEAR: None Selected
• USB1: Built-in USB Ports [+0]
• VIDEO: MSI GeForce® RTX 4090 24GB - Ray Tracing Technology, DX12®, VR Ready, HDMI, DP - 4 MIN. Monitor Support (Single Card)
• VIDEOCAPTURE: None Selected
• WARRANTY: DESKTOP GOLD WARRANTY: 5 Years' Labour, 2 Years' Parts, 2 Years' Collect and Return plus Life-Time Technical Support
• WNC: None Selected
• XWNA: None Selected
• _PRICE: (+4186)

Thanks!

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

As long as you know how to use a screwdriver... you should build it yourself. You'll end up saving money and having better parts.

 

[FlewDesigns]

As long as you know how to use a screwdriver... you should build it yourself. You'll end up saving money and having better parts.

Yeah i know I have built a few already but just comparing prices and for only a maybe £100-400 saves quite a bit of time but i still might build it myself.. But question is if its a fantastic PC or is there any recommendations to improve it for 3D/Realtime work?

 

[Eximo]

For a hard tubing custom loop it really isn't all that bad.

I would probably opt for 2x32GB at DDR5 6000 CL32.

 

[Eximo]

$450 just for the GPU and CPU block, not counting radiators, fittings, reservoir, etc.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 4.2 GHz 16-Core Processor (£661.97 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI PRO X670-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (£269.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (£229.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P3 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£88.84 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£149.44 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate IronWolf Pro 4 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive (£113.47 @ NeoComputers)
Video Card: MSI RTX 4090 VENTUS 3X 24G OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card (£1635.13 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 5000D AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower Case (£150.97 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£169.98 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £3469.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-22 20:52 BST+0100

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

is there any recommendations to improve it for 3D/Realtime work?

Not really. The post above this one is a similar build to my new PC shown in my sig below and it can do all that and more. 😉

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (£229.99 @ Amazon UK)

I would change this to 6000 CL 30... the sweet spot for Ryzen. I have seen reports of instability with higher speeds.

 

[Zerk2012]

FAN: Hyper Liquid Cooling - EK Hardcore Kit - Rigid Tube

MEMORY: 64GB (4x16GB) DDR5/5600mhz Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB Memory

2 mistakes

Get a AIO cooler the one you selected is going to need maintenance.
Get a 2 X 32GB set of memory if you need 64GB.

The rest I didn't look at really close.

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

You could also go with an air cooler... I do.

That processor doesn't pull the power or generate the heat that the Intel chips do... Even under a max all core burn test for 30 mins mine only got up to 89C.

 

[IDProG]

it doesnt look like they put a massive markup on the price

On the contrary, prebuilt companies put the biggest markup on their most expensive builds. They know people who buy expensive builds are the richest and can afford the markup.

Anyway, the build kind of sucks.

- Custom loop is mostly a waste of money and is 99% luxurious in nature.
- People should not use HDD anymore, especially if they do 3D and Unreal Engine work.
- 7950X is better than 7950X3D if you don't really play games.
- I can't believe they actually give the cheapest X670 (not even X670E) motherboard for a $4000 build.
- 4*16GB RAM. DDR5 does NOT handle 4-DIMM EXPO well.
- The case comes with no fan. I don't know if the custom loop actually comes with fans, but regardless, custom loop really, really sucks. I would not touch custom loop with a 10-feet pole.

 

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 4.2 GHz 16-Core Processor (£661.97 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: *ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£118.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: *MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (£296.39 @ Newegg UK)
Memory: *G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (£247.00 @ MoreCoCo)
Storage: *Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: *Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: *Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card (£1657.99 @ MoreCoCo)
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case (£107.94 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: *MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£169.98 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit (£104.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £3565.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-23 04:28 BST+0100

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 4.2 GHz 16-Core Processor (£661.97 @ Amazon UK)

Motherboard: *MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (£296.39 @ Newegg UK)
Memory: *G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (£247.00 @ MoreCoCo)

Video Card: *Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card (£1657.99 @ MoreCoCo)

Looks familiar... nice part selection. 🤣

 

[zx128k]

AMD CPU's not need fast RAM for good performance? For 4xDIMMs I would go Intel.

 

[FlewDesigns]

Thanks everyone for the feedback! this is why i ask this forum. i have know how to put one together but i don't know whats best with what etc. Will consider everything mentioned =)

 

[FlewDesigns]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 4.2 GHz 16-Core Processor (£661.97 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: *ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£118.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: *MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (£296.39 @ Newegg UK)
Memory: *G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (£247.00 @ MoreCoCo)
Storage: *Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: *Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: *Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card (£1657.99 @ MoreCoCo)
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case (£107.94 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: *MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£169.98 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit (£104.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £3565.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-23 04:28 BST+0100

Might be a very stupid question but will it need any extra fans with the CPU cooler?

 

[Why_Me]

Might be a very stupid question but will it need any extra fans with the CPU cooler?

No extra fans needed ^^

 

[Misgar]

If I'm reading the original parts list correctly, you're thinking of buying a case with no inlet fans and you're relying on the PSU fan and water cooled radiator fans to blow air out of the case.

Your RTX 4090 is going to generate a considerable amount of heat when running flat out and I'd suggest adding two or three 140mm inlet fans plus a 140mm exhaust fan on the rear panel. I don't know if you'll be gaming or rendering videos, etc., but the present setup might get rather warm if the ambient room temperature is high.

My 7950X video editing rig contains 5 hard disks, 3 NVMe drives and a Noctua NH-D15 air cooler. I like to keep my hard disks cool with two 140mm inlet fans and I fitted two exhaust fans (140mm + 80mm) in my Lian Li case, to extract hot air from the GPU, CPU, chipset, memory, hard disks and NVMe drives.

Fans are cheap and you can always throttle them back when the system is idling. I'm used to working with screaming fans in blade servers so I don't mind a modicum of noise from a desktop PC. I prefer big roomy full tower cases with plenty of room inside to accommodate ATX mobos and large GPUs. The 5000D is only a mid tower case and might get a bit cramped inside with a 4090.

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

My 7950X video editing rig contains 5 hard disks, 3 NVMe drives and a Noctua NH-D15 air cooler. I like to keep my hard disks cool with two 140mm inlet fans and I fitted two exhaust fans (140mm + 80mm) in my Lian Li case, to extract hot air from the GPU, CPU, chipset, memory, hard disks and NVMe drives.

My 7950x3D system has 8 NVMe drives and 2 SATA III drives with the D15 and have had no temp issues at all with 9 120mm fans.

Temps are well within normal operating range on both the CPU and GPU.

 

[Karadjgne]

2x EK PE360 rads, just for the cpu. No gpu block and the gpu isn't a hybrid. That's gonna put a ton of heat into the case and all on the 3x exhaust fans and top rad. With a custom loop, why isn't the gpu included? You could build a far more effective loop in that case, that's not full of mediocre fans used because they are rgb.

The 4090 pcb is plenty short enough with a full cover block that you could use a 60mm rad in push/pull in front, a 45mm in push on top and get @ 1000w worth of cooling potential. And no, I like EK just fine, but I'd go Heatkiller/Hardware Labs or AlphaCool for the rads, Heatkiller for the gpu block, XSPC Raystorm Pro or Optimus for cpu block. D5 pumps are mostly made by the same company, regardless of vendor, but some do have tweaks and some have better reservoirs etc, so that's more a personal choice.

For fans, forget the RGB, go with EK Vardar or Noctua A12x25. For tubing, acrylic, 1/2" or 14mm.

I could go on, and on, and on. But thats the nature of water cooling loops, there's always a different opinion or way of doing things.

 

[FlewDesigns]

Thanks for all the great advice!

 

[kizo]

CoolerMaster MasterBox NR600

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CbqhP6/cooler-master-masterbox-nr600-wo-odd-atx-mid-tower-case-mcb-nr600-kgnn-s00

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/cases/mid-tower/masterbox-nr600-with-odd/

5 SSD slots
4 HDDs
Great for some NAS Raid in my opinion all in 1 box.
1 for ODD for movies when bored or something.
I heard somewhere it can be repurposed for even more storage with some customizing.
There is a version without ODD

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