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I have a Dell Dimension 8100 1.5 Ghz with 512MB of RAM (2-256MB modules
occupying two of the four memory banks). I would like to upgrade with
another 512 MB for the 2 empty banks. When I go to Dell's site they have a
notice which states that the customer will have to remove all current memory
in order to upgrade. I'm guessing the RDRam they're selling is not
compatible with the original stuff in my computer. I currently have Toshiba
PC800-45 RAM, part No. THMR1N16E-8. It is non-ECC RAM. I was hoping to
pick up some working RAM through Ebay and there are plenty of similar
sounding 512MB kits available. Does anyone know if there are brands which
won't fit well and what exactly to look for? Samsung has some different
part numbers which sound identical but I'm wondering if there are smaller
differences which would make them incompatible. Some of the Samsung part
nos. are MR16R082GBN1-CK8, MR16R082GAN1-CK8, and MR16R1628EG0. Has anyone
had any experience adding to existing memory to the 8100? Thanks

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According to Samsung only the 3rd one is still
in production.

http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/common/partnumbersearch.aspx?partnum=mr16r082gbn1&cd1=ck8&x=7&y=7

http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/common/partnumbersearch.aspx?partnum=mr16r082gan1&cd1=ck8&x=8&y=3

http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/common/partnumbersearch.aspx?partnum=mr16r1628eg0&cd1=&x=7&y=8

You could perhaps get some here;
http://www.memoryx.net/pc800nonecc.html


"Pam" <pam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>I have a Dell Dimension 8100 1.5 Ghz with 512MB of RAM (2-256MB modules
>occupying two of the four memory banks). I would like to upgrade with
>another 512 MB for the 2 empty banks. When I go to Dell's site they
>have a notice which states that the customer will have to remove all
>current memory in order to upgrade. I'm guessing the RDRam they're
>selling is not compatible with the original stuff in my computer. I
>currently have Toshiba PC800-45 RAM, part No. THMR1N16E-8. It is
>non-ECC RAM. I was hoping to pick up some working RAM through Ebay and
>there are plenty of similar sounding 512MB kits available. Does anyone
>know if there are brands which won't fit well and what exactly to look
>for? Samsung has some different part numbers which sound identical but
>I'm wondering if there are smaller differences which would make them
>incompatible. Some of the Samsung part nos. are MR16R082GBN1-CK8,
>MR16R082GAN1-CK8, and MR16R1628EG0. Has anyone had any experience
>adding to existing memory to the 8100? Thanks
>
> --
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Any PC800 - 45ns will work. Did it in both my 8100(s). Samsung is good
stuff.

still WAY too expensive. Probably better to sell the entire machine on ebay
and replace it.

Seriously.

Tom
"Pam" <pam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>I have a Dell Dimension 8100 1.5 Ghz with 512MB of RAM (2-256MB modules
>occupying two of the four memory banks). I would like to upgrade with
>another 512 MB for the 2 empty banks. When I go to Dell's site they have a
>notice which states that the customer will have to remove all current
>memory in order to upgrade. I'm guessing the RDRam they're selling is not
>compatible with the original stuff in my computer. I currently have Toshiba
>PC800-45 RAM, part No. THMR1N16E-8. It is non-ECC RAM. I was hoping to
>pick up some working RAM through Ebay and there are plenty of similar
>sounding 512MB kits available. Does anyone know if there are brands which
>won't fit well and what exactly to look for? Samsung has some different
>part numbers which sound identical but I'm wondering if there are smaller
>differences which would make them incompatible. Some of the Samsung part
>nos. are MR16R082GBN1-CK8, MR16R082GAN1-CK8, and MR16R1628EG0. Has anyone
>had any experience adding to existing memory to the 8100? Thanks
>
> --
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Tom,

Thanks for your response. It's good to know any PC800-45 will work. I'll
think about your recommendation, though.

Thanks again.
Pam

"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
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> Any PC800 - 45ns will work. Did it in both my 8100(s). Samsung is good
> stuff.
>
> still WAY too expensive. Probably better to sell the entire machine on
> ebay and replace it.
>
> Seriously.
 
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Pam, Try
http://www.4allmemory.com/search/dell/dimension.cfm?q=Dell+Dimension+8100
$195.98 for two 256MB non-ECC RDRAM PC800 free shipping. HTH, Pat

"Pam" <pam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Tom,
>
> Thanks for your response. It's good to know any PC800-45 will work. I'll
> think about your recommendation, though.
>
> Thanks again.
> Pam
>
> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
> news:Tvi1e.6897$Fz.2713@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>> Any PC800 - 45ns will work. Did it in both my 8100(s). Samsung is good
>> stuff.
>>
>> still WAY too expensive. Probably better to sell the entire machine on
>> ebay and replace it.
>>
>> Seriously.
>
>
 
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That's a good deal. Better than Zipzoomfly, which is who I usually
recommend.

Still, though, $200 would go a long way towards a new machine that is MUCH
faster.

Tom
"Pat Conover" <pat conover at comcast dot net> wrote in message
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> Pam, Try
> http://www.4allmemory.com/search/dell/dimension.cfm?q=Dell+Dimension+8100
> $195.98 for two 256MB non-ECC RDRAM PC800 free shipping. HTH, Pat
>
> "Pam" <pam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:8a4c$4245ba4a$422ab6cf$2353@FUSE.NET...
>> Tom,
>>
>> Thanks for your response. It's good to know any PC800-45 will work.
>> I'll think about your recommendation, though.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>> Pam
>>
>> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
>> news:Tvi1e.6897$Fz.2713@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>> Any PC800 - 45ns will work. Did it in both my 8100(s). Samsung is good
>>> stuff.
>>>
>>> still WAY too expensive. Probably better to sell the entire machine on
>>> ebay and replace it.
>>>
>>> Seriously.
>>
>>
>
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Best thing to do is to open up the clamshell case and see how many RDRAM sticks
are inside. If there are four, then two need to be removed to add two others of
greater capacity. If there are two plus two CRIMM modules, remove the CRIMMs
and install two RDRAM sticks. The latter is what I have seen in four surplus
8100s I bought recently.

In any event, RDRAM is pretty generic stuff, tho manufactured to higher
standards than some other memory. Only a handful of manufacturers made the
stuff, Samsung, Toshiba, NEC, and Infineon (Hynix). Get a matched pair from a
reputable source and don't look back, despite the dis-information on the Dell
web site. Even ECC RDRAM will work, altho it is more expensive than non-ECC.

The important thing here is to install exact matched pairs in each pair of
memory sockets. And each pair can have different capacities, albeit with a
slowdown in performance... Ben Myers

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:34:37 -0500, "Pam" <pam@nospam.com> wrote:

>I have a Dell Dimension 8100 1.5 Ghz with 512MB of RAM (2-256MB modules
>occupying two of the four memory banks). I would like to upgrade with
>another 512 MB for the 2 empty banks. When I go to Dell's site they have a
>notice which states that the customer will have to remove all current memory
>in order to upgrade. I'm guessing the RDRam they're selling is not
>compatible with the original stuff in my computer. I currently have Toshiba
>PC800-45 RAM, part No. THMR1N16E-8. It is non-ECC RAM. I was hoping to
>pick up some working RAM through Ebay and there are plenty of similar
>sounding 512MB kits available. Does anyone know if there are brands which
>won't fit well and what exactly to look for? Samsung has some different
>part numbers which sound identical but I'm wondering if there are smaller
>differences which would make them incompatible. Some of the Samsung part
>nos. are MR16R082GBN1-CK8, MR16R082GAN1-CK8, and MR16R1628EG0. Has anyone
>had any experience adding to existing memory to the 8100? Thanks
>
>--
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<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
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<snip>
> The important thing here is to install exact matched pairs in each pair of
> memory sockets. And each pair can have different capacities, albeit with
> a
> slowdown in performance... Ben Myers
>

Different sizes don't affect performance, different speed ratings do.

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Yes, and PC800-45 or the more expensive PC800-40 or PC1066-32 184-pin will all
work fine in a Dimension 8100. PC711 or PC600 slows it down. I must have had
my wires crossed, or maybe a brain parity... Ben Myers

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 00:54:35 GMT, "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote:

>
><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
>news:4245f567.26788425@nntp.charter.net...
><snip>
>> The important thing here is to install exact matched pairs in each pair of
>> memory sockets. And each pair can have different capacities, albeit with
>> a
>> slowdown in performance... Ben Myers
>>
>
>Different sizes don't affect performance, different speed ratings do.
>
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Ben Myers wrote:
> Even ECC RDRAM will work, altho it is more expensive than non-ECC.
>
It should be noted that you'll get no benefit from mixing ECC with
non-ECC, in fact the server must be in non-ECC mode to work with mixed
modules.
 
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Thank you everyone for your help and suggestions. I feel a little better
now about buying a different brand than the Toshiba in here. I had already
checked inside the box and I have two modules installed so don't have to
pull any out in order to add two more. I really appreciate the help,
especially with Dell's site telling me I would have to pull what I have in
order to add what they were selling--that made me a bit apprehensive.
Thanks again.

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Tom Scales wrote:
> That's a good deal. Better than Zipzoomfly, which is who I usually
> recommend.
>
> Still, though, $200 would go a long way towards a new machine that is MUCH
> faster.

And doesn't use RDRAM.
 
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"Pam" <pam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Thank you everyone for your help and suggestions. I feel a little better
> now about buying a different brand than the Toshiba in here. I had
> already checked inside the box and I have two modules installed so don't
> have to pull any out in order to add two more. I really appreciate the
> help, especially with Dell's site telling me I would have to pull what I
> have in order to add what they were selling--that made me a bit
> apprehensive. Thanks again.
>
> --
> Pam
>
>
>

Again, consider a new one, particularly refurbished. It just looked at
outlet.dell.com at 4700 models. A nice 4700, P4-2.8, 80GB, 512MB, XP Home,
CD-RW, DVD, Modem == $354 Splurge for $444 and you can get one with 1GB
memory.

Oh, and there is free shipping right now.

So, spend $200 for memory or $354 for an entire machine!
 
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Hi Pam

I bought my RAM from this supplier in the UK
http://www.orcalogic.co.uk/asp/default.asp

Installed it without a problem!

Here's my PC spec

General System Information


Computer Model Dimension 8100
BIOS Vendor Dell Computer Corporation
BIOS Version
BIOS Date 11/09/2001
Case Type Mini Tower
Windows Version XP
Explorer Version 6.0.2900.2180


Processors

Central Processor
Manufacturer Intel
External Clock Speed 100 MHz
Maximum Clock Speed 2000 MHz
Current Clock Speed 1600 MHz


Memory

System memory
RIMM: 128 Mb RDRAM
RIMM: 128 Mb RDRAM
RIMM: 128 Mb RDRAM
RIMM: 128 Mb RDRAM




"Pam" <pam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:9dcfd$42459bb8$422ab6cf$6875@FUSE.NET...
>I have a Dell Dimension 8100 1.5 Ghz with 512MB of RAM (2-256MB modules
>occupying two of the four memory banks). I would like to upgrade with
>another 512 MB for the 2 empty banks. When I go to Dell's site they have a
>notice which states that the customer will have to remove all current
>memory in order to upgrade. I'm guessing the RDRam they're selling is not
>compatible with the original stuff in my computer. I currently have Toshiba
>PC800-45 RAM, part No. THMR1N16E-8. It is non-ECC RAM. I was hoping to
>pick up some working RAM through Ebay and there are plenty of similar
>sounding 512MB kits available. Does anyone know if there are brands which
>won't fit well and what exactly to look for? Samsung has some different
>part numbers which sound identical but I'm wondering if there are smaller
>differences which would make them incompatible. Some of the Samsung part
>nos. are MR16R082GBN1-CK8, MR16R082GAN1-CK8, and MR16R1628EG0. Has anyone
>had any experience adding to existing memory to the 8100? Thanks
>
> --
> Pam
>
>