Micron Announces 16 nm TLC NAND

[Guest]

Micron announced its new 16nm TLC NAND at Computex 2015.

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[razor512]

So now you can have the joy of sending your SSD in for an RMA each time you save a text document onto it.

 

[LordConrad]

Considering the problems Samsung ran into with the 840 EVO, I think 1x nm TLC NAND is just plain stupid.

 

[ammaross]

Considering the problems Samsung ran into with the 840 EVO, I think 1x nm TLC NAND is just plain stupid.

Good thing their 3D NAND is 42nm then.

 

[LordConrad]

Considering the problems Samsung ran into with the 840 EVO, I think 1x nm TLC NAND is just plain stupid.

Good thing their 3D NAND is 42nm then.

Samsung did good with their 3D V-NAND. Who knows what lithography Micron and Toshiba will use for their 3D NAND, but 1x nm TLC 2D NAND is asking for trouble.

 

[tomsreader]

TLC? Hahaha... NO!

 

[hannibal]

You can expect all market micros to have those, as well as many laptops and handheld devices... We need better information, what is inside of those pre equipped devices!

 

[nottheking]

I'm still not convinced of the viability of bleeding/cutting-edge TLC NAND in SSDs; the 840 EVO definitely put a spotlight on it, though the problem really applies to more than just that. (I feel the 840 EVO just came to the forefront due to being the darling of enthusiasts upon release, hence more exposure when the problems started cropping up)

Still, price will tend to win out just about every time: it's why, for instance, dangerously bad power supplies still flood the market: not enough people are aware of the dangers of their terrible capacitors and how they're going to blow in a year or two, they just know that they can get the "500w" unit their new video card demands for only $30.

For such a huge portion of the market, no other considerations are even noticed beyond simply the "price per gigabyte" number; and when it comes to that, 1x nm TLC NAND cannot really be beaten.

 

[RamCity]

From a retailers perspective, Microns investment in TLC makes sense. We have very, very few returns on 840 Evos which to me says the vast majority of consumers are happy with TLC. And it's the vast majority that Crucial are going after here, as well as partnerships with other niche vendors like Transcend who want access to low cost flash.