News Microsoft and OpenAI investigate whether DeepSeek illicitly obtained data from ChatGPT

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Sources at Open AI believe DeepSeek unlawfully distilled data from ChatGPT, Open AI and Microsoft begin investigation.

Microsoft and OpenAI investigate whether DeepSeek illicitly obtained data from ChatGPT : Read more

 

[oofdragon]

Trying to forge criminal evidence to make some kind of move against it? They didn't sleep well after losing billions overnight lol

 

[das_stig]

If they did use distillation without permission, straight forward IP/data theft and Trumps ban hammer will fall on Deepseek and High-Flyer, although even if only used in China and the other axis of eveil rogue states, it will be a very useful tool.

 

[jeffy9987]

open ai had a whistle blower who said they stole from pretty much everyone who just so happens decided to kill himself id doubt microsoft hasnt stolen aswell looking at how much data they syphon from windows

 

[GenericUsername109]

That's rich. How about auditing OpenAI's own training data for proper consent and licensing first? 😀

 

[pug_s]

Open Ai want to investigate 'illicitly obtained data" when they are not even open? Oh the irony.

There's an old lawyer's saying: When you can't innovate, litigate.

Microsoft boss urges rethink of copyright laws for AI

Satya Nadella says rules must be clear for transformative technology

www.thetimes.com

"The boss of Microsoft has called for a rethink of copyright laws so that tech giants are able to train artificial intelligence models without risk of infringing intellectual property rights."

Apparently obtaining data from others is okay, but someone obtaining data from them is not.

 

[hotaru251]

openai: "they might have illegally stolen content of ours"

People: "but didn't you yourself steal as much content as possible to make your product? so whats the difference?"

openai: "...but thats different"


honestly might be a hilarious lawsuit if it would happen as they risk shafting the industry as a whole and i would love nothing more than big corpo to get shafted.

 

[SkyBill40]

Would anyone honestly be surprised if it was found that DeepSeek indeed stole IP? And even if it had, what difference is it going to make? There's been loads of IP theft lawsuits filed in the US against Chinese companies and none of them move anywhere because... well.. it's China and their government doesn't care. For the record, I'm in no part ignoring that companies in the US have done the same thing, but the consequences for getting caught can be significant.

It'll be interesting to see how this all plays out and if it ends up looking like the three finger pointing Spiderman meme or not.

 

[ivan_vy]

openai: "they might have illegally stolen content of ours"

People: "but didn't you yourself steal as much content as possible to make your product? so whats the difference?"

openai: "...but thats different"


honestly might be a hilarious lawsuit if it would happen as they risk shafting the industry as a whole and i would love nothing more than big corpo to get shafted.

this
classic MSFT tactics , FUD , legal slowdown , etc.
it does not matter if true as long it seeds the doubt and stops the progress of rivals.

 

[Quirkz]

If they did use distillation without permission, straight forward IP/data theft

you know how openAI and meta got their data in the first place, right?

 

[phead128]

OpenAI unironically stole training data from publishers, artists, newspapers, and everywhere, now crying foul about their data getting trained on. Zero self-awareness.

 

[mitch074]

Maybe they did, but that's unlikely - data distillation often leads to hallucinations and corruption, when data available on Chinese-enabled websites is much more readily available - and puts them at ease with internal censorship.
They may have pulled OpenAI data for validation purpose, though - to compare their models to OpenAI's directly, that would require a bit more than a couple benchmarks runs...

 

[acadia11]

Sci-fi tells you every thing you need to know about the world, if you pay attention, Firefly ahead its time … called it out we’d all be speaking Chinese soon enough! Joss Whedon also told us cheerleaders with a bad attitude would also be slaying pesky demons! This too shall come to pass … just you wait!

 

[KaylemCooper]

But THEY did it! It's wrong when THEY do it!

I see that kindergarten seems to have not taught these people fairness.

 

[COLGeek]

Pot, meet kettle.

Kettle, meet pot.

 

[Ferlucio]

"you can't steal my data, I stole it first fair and square."