News Microsoft Intros Pluton Processor, Intel Will Adopt AMD's Security Approach

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It won't take long for this to become a vulnerability itself. It's just adding a whole bunch more points of failure into the system to be attacked. Someone somewhere is going to figure out some edge-case vector and then you're fried.
 

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The title is somewhat misleading, it implies that Intel is copying it when it isn't but is rather in a "partnership".
A "partnership" to adopt a security technique that AMD developed and has used since 2013 - and currently uses in several of its shipping lines of processors. Fair to say Intel is adopting the same approach - the title does not state 'copying.'
 
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A "partnership" to adopt a security technique that AMD developed and has used since 2013 - and currently uses in several of its shipping lines of processors. Fair to say Intel is adopting the same approach - the title does not state 'copying.'
Oh wait, seems the title changed or something cause when I came to this article it said something like "Intel copies AMD" but yeah ok I get that argument, didn't realize AMD used it for that long
 

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Am I the only one who DOES NOT want Microsoft software controlling their PC processor which is running a Linux operating system because they do not trust Windows on their PC?
 
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Am I the only one who DOES NOT want Microsoft software controlling their PC processor which is running a Linux operating system because they do not trust Windows on their PC?
Exactly. It's a joke to trust your system security to MS. I hope that this "security" co-processor can be completely disabled by BIOS (some hardware kill switch would be better, but little hope there).
 

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Exactly. It's a joke to trust your system security to MS. I hope that this "security" co-processor can be completely disabled by BIOS (some hardware kill switch would be better, but little hope there).
There will have to be something available to either bypass when using other OSes or support within other OSes.
AMD has been using something similar in Epyc for a while and DC gear and other OS support is widespread.
 

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So they could block unproved programs or modification to programs if the publisher says no.. Yeah it would actually fix cheating in games on pc but it would also probably block mods for tons of games.

Gta online as an example... There are mods that don't help rockstar make money and they are roleplay servers which use a mod to allow private servers. That could be easily banned by this chip



Anyone remember palidum? They tried to do this with Intel like 17 years ago or so and people revolted. Haven't heard a peep about this.
 

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Am I the only one who DOES NOT want Microsoft software controlling their PC processor which is running a Linux operating system because they do not trust Windows on their PC?
No but considering you can remove anything you want via powershell your lack of trust makes little sense.
 

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curious as to if it will have a performance hit (since anythign needign verification would pass through it?)

also if ur using linux..it'll likely have its own support/version eventually.
 

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You're not. Hopefully Lenovo release laptops with Ubuntu so there must be no Ms junk inside.

Am I the only one who DOES NOT want Microsoft software controlling their PC processor which is running a Linux operating system because they do not trust Windows on their PC?
 

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