Microsoft Rumored to be Slowing Surface Production

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Honestly look around the mall on black friday, ask your friends, relatives and coworkers. Who went out and got a Microsoft Surface? I bet many got an iPad or the amazing Nexus 10. The Surface is an expensive joke.
 

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The RT is 10 years TOO LATE. Win XP on a tablet? Not exciting until the 2nd or 3rd gen when the hardware catches up to the hype.
 

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Ill have 100 orders for a pro tables in my small business next year alone. Don't be fooled people, there is MASSIVE pressure in the business word by users to use a tablet in the work space and M$ dropped the ball by taking so long, every other competitor will catch up. So far the surface has the best specs but Im concerned that it does not have a docking station for business user to easily drop it in and use their normal mouse/keyboard/monitor based apps.
 
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Metro UI is a disaster. It's failed in the phone market, and now Microsoft wants to shove it down our throats. I sincerely home that Windows 8 is a complete flop and they escort that idiot Ballmer out the door! Seriously, Microsoft has never innovated well, but rather bullied people out of the markets they've created or just plain bought them out. Now, they're so late to the market, it's game over...
 

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Windows 8 rocks. The Surface RT rocks. The closed model they're applying to application installations and the completely restricted API you can code Windows 8 apps in, is the failure point for the Surface RT. The Pro you'll be able to use as normal, but after X amount of years with that freedom, trying to apply a business model like Apple or Droid to a piece of hardware, will not catch on. I was horrified when I tried to set an environment variable within some code for my Surface RT, only to find out the API is probably 30% of the entire .net 4.5 framework. Don't get me wrong, that helps security and performance, but that sure limits the amount you can actually do for coding and reduces the experience of the end user. (this is not a droid, or a crummy apple, this is freakin windows. it's been a mature and massive experience for years)
 
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It is simply too expensive. It is a lot more compelling at $300 than it is at $500. Micro$oft has billions in the bank, and they need to subsidize this thing to get it out the door, and gain market share.
 

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Metro UI is a disaster. It's failed in the phone market, and now Microsoft wants to shove it down our throats. I sincerely home that Windows 8 is a complete flop and they escort that idiot Ballmer out the door! Seriously, Microsoft has never innovated well, but rather bullied people out of the markets they've created or just plain bought them out. Now, they're so late to the market, it's game over...
Nobody's forcing you to use it princess.
 

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[citation][nom]-Jackson[/nom]Nobody's forcing you to use it princess.[/citation]
Nope, but if you want the newest Direct X MS pretty much forces you to use their new OS sadly. This has been how they have done things for a while now. =/
 
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Windows 8 rocks. The Surface RT rocks. The closed model they're applying to application installations and the completely restricted API you can code Windows 8 apps in, is the failure point for the Surface RT. The Pro you'll be able to use as normal, but after X amount of years with that freedom, trying to apply a business model like Apple or Droid to a piece of hardware, will not catch on. I was horrified when I tried to set an environment variable within some code for my Surface RT, only to find out the API is probably 30% of the entire .net 4.5 framework. Don't get me wrong, that helps security and performance, but that sure limits the amount you can actually do for coding and reduces the experience of the end user. (this is not a droid, or a crummy apple, this is freakin windows. it's been a mature and massive experience for years)
And how long have you worked for Microsoft?
 

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reason I didn't get a surface RT was because of it's lack of an active digitizer. Waiting on the lenovo thinkpad
 

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I know :/
But it is THEIR OS after all.. we're not in a place to really complain about it..
 

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Ughh.. Freaking apples and oranges..
APPLES AND ORANGES.
What is it you people don't get about this term.
 

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[citation][nom]-Jackson[/nom]I know But it is THEIR OS after all.. we're not in a place to really complain about it..[/citation]
... this is one of the dumbest comments i've ever read.
 

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What I meant is that, we're so dependent on Windows that there's really no way we can threaten MS into fulfilling what we want in THEIR OS. I mean, unless a very large majority starts complaining about it.

Edit: And buddy, dumbest isn't even a word.
 

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[citation][nom]littleleo[/nom]I have not had one request for a Surface and the pro version is going to be $900+. I could build you a killer machine for that price.[/citation]

Tablet builder are you? please...

We have dozens of off brand (chinese) windows 7 tablets for management for on site use (time recording mostly) and the engineering department will be going with Surface Pro as soon as they're available. WIN 7 is the current network image (just upgraded this year) but WIN 8 is a small jump to make (same as win 7 really, back end wise) to get these specialized deloyments in the field.
$1k is about normal for a business machine really. After they're deployed we'll see how many execs jump on the bandwagon, most of their ipads etc have had their day and have gone back home for their kids to play with.

Those consumers with some computer skills will won't mind the price, it's a serious tool after all, not exclusively for entertainment / time killing.
 
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While I think the Surface RT is pretty darn amazing and far superior to both Android and Apple offerings I for one am waiting for the Surface Pro early next year.
 

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W8 RT isn't the main drawback; the limitation of Tegra III is. RT is, at least IMO, a great alternative to iOS and Android. It works very well on touch-enabled devices, provides a near-seamless transition to Windows on desktops (for users as well as developers), and is actually a very functional OS in terms of productivity apps.

The problem is that Tegra III simply isn't strong enough to effective run the OS, all of the touch-enabled interactions, and complex programs like Office simultaneously. The biggest complaints from nearly every review can be traced back to the hardware, not the software.

I think these issues will be quickly rectified by the Surface Pro, and I look forward to its arrival.
 

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I agree.
Planning on grabbing a Pro when it comes out. I've always wanted something a little more portable than a laptop :p
 

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RT was too expensive. Great device. I enjoy it. Really don't use laptop around house anymore. Just my desktop for gaming/surfing web and the Surface RT for lounging around.

But when you're entering the market so late in the game, you really need something to get people to buy it. A $500 device and $120 accessory (necessary to be as productive as M$ wants you to be), is A LOT for something brand new with no reputation. First thing consumers wanna know are "Where are my apps?" Really not much out there. And a lot of apps are kinda expensive.

They should have subsidized these suckers like they did the Xbox. Or at least have a discounted price through the holidays. $50-100 cheaper for the RT would have made a big difference.

I think the Pro could be knocked down a little. $100 or so.
 

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[citation][nom]littleleo[/nom]And how long have you worked for Microsoft?[/citation]

I don't work for Microshaft as I like to call them, even though I'm a fan I only speak what I see.
How long have you been a beligerent troll?
 

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Metro looks like a college project which is chunky and incomplete. It reminds me the Win3 which left you wonder why. I sincerely wish the Win8 will disappear as fast as the WinME.
 
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