"Together, these aspects of the operation are expected to undermine the criminal infrastructure that relies on these botnets every day to make money and to help provide new tools for the industry to work together to proactively fight cybercrime."
Exactly. Those botnets, not all the other botnets. And what exactly are these new "tools"? Converting the old botnet PCs into firewalls? Sounds like another marketing puff piece.
Put your finger in the dam, Microsoft. All you're doing is chasing your tail. Come up with real software solutions to prevent this, not running around getting publicity and playing law man. With the source out there, you won't ever see the end of Zeus.
The raid is reportedly his "brainchild," as he came up with the idea to argue with the court that the hackers behind the Zeus botnet were violating Microsoft’s trademarks through fake e-mails they used to spread their malicious software. Clever.
This is "US Marshals were accompanied by Microsoft", not vice versa. Microsoft does not have the legal jurisdiction to execute search and seizure, make an arrest, use a firearm without proper training, or anything else related. They maybe helped gather some evidence then tagged along for publicity.
People blowing this way out of proportion. I'm glad that the gov is realizing it needs help to deal with cyber criminals. Seriously, how much would they have done had Microsoft not sent people to tag along?
Cooperation while it's a scary concept is the only way to get these parasites in jail.
[citation][nom]A Bad Day[/nom]Give them a week. They'll be back at 90% operation.I wonder what would the law enforcement do if the operators of the botnet lived in an uncooperative country, such as Russia, or a 3rd world country such as Somali?[/citation]
Worst case scenario for the Zeus people is the local law enforcement do the raids, in which case torture and death is the likely outcome
[citation][nom]Zingam[/nom]"The raid was conducted at two nondescript office buildings in Scranton, Pa., and Lombard, Ill. on Friday by Microsoft's legal team and technical personnel. They were accompanied by United States marshals with a warrant in hand."Wow? Seriously is Microsoft above law enforcement agencies? Is Microsoft above the law? Is Microsoft the Law? Does Microsoft own the Police?[/citation]
Everyone knows US marshals have computers experts to rival Microsoft that can tell which servers need to be taken down, even though Microsoft provided most the evidence for this case.
[citation][nom]greyiago[/nom]Put your finger in the dam, Microsoft. All you're doing is chasing your tail. Come up with real software solutions to prevent this, not running around getting publicity and playing law man. With the source out there, you won't ever see the end of Zeus.[/citation]
you think the inventor of the wheel feels about people using them in war machines to kill other people was supposed to put preventions in place so that it couldn't be used against him or others?
shoot the hackers for doing the wrong.
you can't stop bad people from doing bad things nor can you stop stupid people from doing bad things, if everything in this world was designed to prevent this there would be absolutely ZERO progress. it is far easier and better to round up those people and put them in places where they learn what happens if they do bad or are prevented from doing bad.
this is why we don't put compulsive button pushing freaks in nuclear power plants or make serial killers judges or people with diabetes, heart conditions or seizures drive bus loads full of people.
if your a hacker and you find a security problem, instead of being bad and exploiting it, try fixing it and then showing the company the problem and offer them the fix for a nominal fee you feel is worthy of your time and expertise and the seriousness of the problem and if you and the company don't agree, that's what the word negotiation was made for!
i have no problems or sympathy sitting on a jury for these clowns and giving them prison for life but if i find out they caused some little old lady or grandpa to lose enough money they couldn't afford their heart medicine and die i have no problems condemning these hacks to death.
[citation][nom]jacekring[/nom]Agreed if they live in Russia and the Russians agree to arrest them. They will be F'd, the Russian police pull people out of cars and beat them before arresting them.[/citation]
"I pay you $20,000, you agree that nothing happened."
[citation][nom]Zingam[/nom]Somalia? Are you serious? News flash: "Pirates turned Hackers"[/citation]
News flash: Congress declares War on Hackers after being egged on by software companies, Literally.
microsoft is just covering its butt. these "bots" use backdoors that microsoft put in for spying on users. they were forced to , thats why bill gates stepped down from microsoft after a series of "meetings" with certain gov'mt intellegence agc'ys, he didnt want to be part of the mess when it gets exposed.