Microsoft Sends 3,000 Employees Packing

[JMcEntegart]

Microsoft yesterday sent out pink slips to thousands of workers.

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[grieve]

LOL @ the picture!

 

[grieve]

I guess when a company reports revenue of $16.6 billion for the quarter they need to lay off people.... ?

 

[tenor77]

Yet execs never take a pay cut. That always drives me nuts.

 

[lamorpa]

Become an exec or quit bitching.

 

[danimal_the_animal]

Yeah lets fire 5000 people so we can build all kinds of non work related crap at the campus.....

 

[lamorpa]

How can things at the going on at the campus be non work related?

 

[misnad]

Well, each organisation has their own quarterly targets. Guess this is the new response trend when they fail to meet them. But then again, a quick sudden layoff is better than sending small pockets of staff home a week at a time as that would cause a lot of anxiety among the workforce. Each person would wonder, "Am I next?". A company's got to do what a company's got to do, I guess. The flipside of it is that they might need those 3000 employees back the next quarter if they've suddenly seen a massive growth in revenue as well as a resource crunch.

 

[JMcEntegart]

[citation][nom]lamorpa[/nom]How can things at the going on at the campus be non work related?[/citation]

I think he was referring to the Microsoft pub or mini-mall they're developing for employees.

 

[cletus_slackjawd]

Makes M$ look kinda stupid for hiring 3,000 employees that they apparently didn't need huh? Or, maybe they "let go" 3,000 employees, and then re-hire them back as part-time workers at lower wages and benefits. Capitalism rules.

 

[nirvanabah]

Why is Ballmer casting a spell?

 

[tenor77]

[citation][nom]nirvanabah[/nom]Why is Ballmer casting a spell?[/citation]

Windgarium layoffosa!

 

[matt_b]

Is this a sort of "thank you" after all the hard work and positive buzz for Windows 7(which is practically completed)? They are one of the few companies that are not hurting during these times. Not only that, but they will continue to generate positive revenue due to the dependence and addiction the computer world has built up around them - I don't understand this move.

 

[dtemple]

[citation][nom]JMcEntegart[/nom]I think he was referring to the Microsoft pub or mini-mall they're developing for employees.[/citation]
I think Microsoft would rather have 5,000 less employees if the remaining employees have higher morale and productivity due to these resources they're developing on campus.

 

[manjyomethunder]

Anyone care to photoshoop some lightning coming out of those hands?

 

[nirvanabah]

I don't understand why you'd expect Execs to take a pay cut. They earned their position and one would assume if they were to cut anyone's pay it would be the employees they let go (rather than firing them outright). If the Execs were as expendable as the 5,000 employees they're cutting, they'd simply fire them too don't you think?

 

[Guest]

A company that wants to survive will cut costs before they are needed. Should Microsoft wait until financial ruin is imminent to lay people off?

Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer received $1.35 million in 2008 ($650k in salary + $700k bonus), a relatively small number for a company the size of Microsoft, let alone continued profitability. Even if he received $0 compensation, that would pay for less than 17 full time employees at $80,000/year [the 2008 average].

Yes, it sucks for those laid off. Cutting costs will improve the odds of continuing to pay the ~90k employees still at Microsoft.

Microsoft is planning to hire 3,000 employees over the next year. Probably different positions than those eliminated.

No, I do not work for Microsoft or any of its suppliers, vendors, etc.

I have been a contractor and FTE (blue badge) at Microsoft in the 90s.

 

[wikiwikiwhat]

Execs hae influence over other markets due to their previous acheivements and if employed by Microsoft it benefits Microsoft to have them. Joeshmoe not so much. Got go up that ladder as fast as you can and be better than the next guy.

 

[tenor77]

[citation][nom]nirvanabah[/nom]I don't understand why you'd expect Execs to take a pay cut. They earned their position and one would assume if they were to cut anyone's pay it would be the employees they let go (rather than firing them outright). If the Execs were as expendable as the 5,000 employees they're cutting, they'd simply fire them too don't you think?[/citation]


And you think that any employee is worth 192 million a year? Oracle thinks so I guess. I know it's a sacrifice but some of these execs might cut a few million and keep a few extra employees.

I know crazy thinking right? I'm no socialist but as an employee I would hope my CEO would cut a couple million out of his salary before doing layoffs if the company was in that much trouble financially.

 

[zear]

[citation][nom]tenor77[/nom]Windgarium layoffosa![/citation]
I just threw up a little...

 

[hellwig]

[citation][nom]nirvanabah[/nom]I don't understand why you'd expect Execs to take a pay cut. They earned their position and one would assume if they were to cut anyone's pay it would be the employees they let go (rather than firing them outright). If the Execs were as expendable as the 5,000 employees they're cutting, they'd simply fire them too don't you think?[/citation]
When your exec sits on your board of directors, he basically gets to vote on his own pay raises. When was the last time your boss said "propose a new salary for yourself and I'll take a vote amongst your peers"? Its the same with politicians. Congress votes themselves payraises all the time. Rather than fire thousands of employees, or milk tax-paying citizens for more money, they could reduce the problem by eliminating a few million of their own individual (or collective) salaries, yet they don't.

Hell, I just recently took a 5% paycut myself, but my manager didn't (no, I don't work at MS). Hope they like that few hundred bucks a month they're getting back (maybe they'll spend it on more managerial "training" retreats), but someone like Steve Balmer taking a 5% paycut would open up millions, and save hundreds of jobs.

 

[hellwig]

I'm going to correct myself about Steve Balmer, apparently he only made $1.38mil in 2008, so his salary cut still wouldn't have saved any jobs.

 

[tenor77]

Don't back down too soon there hellwig.

You do realize Baller is the first employee in the US to become a billionare in stock options?

There's more to exec compensation than just pay and bonus.

 

[ravenware]

We are moving quickly to reach this target in response to consistent feedback from our people and business groups that it’s important to make decisions and reduce uncertainty for employees as quickly as possible,

Sounds like someone is telling him how to run the company.

 

[grieve]

[citation][nom]seattle_ms[/nom]A company that wants to survive will cut costs before they are needed. Should Microsoft wait until financial ruin is imminent to lay people off?[/citation]

I do agree with you... And perhaps they never met thier goals for the quarter or year, but you can not overlook this quaote ""reported revenue of $16.6 billion for the quarter""
M$ isn't exactly entering finanial ruin anytime soon!