Migrate from IDE to SCSI - hints?

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For various reasons, I want to migrate from an IDE hard-drive to a SCSI
hard-drive. Apart from the obvious "buy a SCSI card and SCSI hard-drive at
least as big as the IDE drive", is there any useful information that the
group can point me at that will make this painless?

In my dreams, I see something like...

1. Install SCSI drive.
2. "format /s" the drive.
3. xcopy entire IDE drive to SCSI (including hidden, system etc).
4. Remove IDE drive and reboot.

OK, so I'm a dreamer but hopefully the group can point me somewhere that
will make the whole process almost this simple.

Thanks,
Paul DS.

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Paul D.Smith wrote:
> For various reasons, I want to migrate from an IDE hard-drive to a
> SCSI hard-drive.

Good idea.

> 1. Install SCSI drive.
> 2. "format /s" the drive.
> 3. xcopy entire IDE drive to SCSI (including hidden, system etc).
> 4. Remove IDE drive and reboot.

Good luck!

And before you try ti, repeat after me:
Never try to migrate a NT installation to a different setup.
Never try to migrate a NT installation to a different setup.
Never try to migrate a NT installation to a different setup.
Never try to migrate a NT installation to a different setup.
Never try to migrate a NT installation to a different setup.
Never try to migrate a NT installation to a different setup.
Never try to migrate a NT installation to a different setup.
....

If you don't believe it, you *may* try.
Sometimes it *does* work, but usually it doesn't, which will probably
leave you with an unbootable system.

So the way to go is:
Intall the SCSI controller and drive.

Then either:
Install the necessary driver for the SCSI drive, partition and format
it at discretion and use it as data drive only, leaving the NT
installation where it is,

Or:
Boot with your NT floppies and install NT as well as all the apps from
scratch onto the new SCSI drive(s) -- preferably before pulling the
IDE drive in case you should get stuck...

Helmut
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Paul

This is a method of copying an NT installation to a new hard disk that I
have been using:

1) Install a spare NT in another folder (I use C:\Spare). (If your current
disk is full, do 2) below first, and then install a spare installation on
your new disk)

2) Install your new disk, partition and format. Set the intended system
partition active.

3) Boot from your \spare install, copy everything except \spare and your
page file to your new drive. Use SCOPY from the Resource Kit if you want to
preserve permissions.

4) Boot from \winnt, copy \spare to the disk (if you want both NT
installs).

5) Make the new disk your boot disk.

6) Boot from the new disk.

7) Rearrange drive letters with Disk Administrator, to get the correct
assignments for your installation.

8) Try it, thoroughly, and if it would not work for some reason (it usually
does) swap the disks back and start over from 2).

You do have the added complexity of the SCSI driver, and - depending on
your SCSI adapter settings - the possibility that boot.ini might need to
use the scsi() syntax, in which case you will need to add a copy of your
SCSI adapter driver renamed to ntbootdd.sys in the root of your system
partition.

Best regards

Bjorn
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"Paul D.Smith" <paul_d_smith@x-hotmail.com> wrote:

>For various reasons, I want to migrate from an IDE hard-drive to a SCSI
>hard-drive. Apart from the obvious "buy a SCSI card and SCSI hard-drive at
>least as big as the IDE drive", is there any useful information that the
>group can point me at that will make this painless?
>
>In my dreams, I see something like...
>
>1. Install SCSI drive.
>2. "format /s" the drive.
>3. xcopy entire IDE drive to SCSI (including hidden, system etc).
>4. Remove IDE drive and reboot.
>
>OK, so I'm a dreamer but hopefully the group can point me somewhere that
>will make the whole process almost this simple.
>
>Thanks,
>Paul DS.

 

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Thanks for the suggestion.

Paul DS.
"Bjorn Landemoo" <mvp2.REMOVE@landemoo.com> wrote in message
news:9g7880djt2nf3hbbjturjq6ui0tk8gr1ra@4ax.com...
> Paul
>
> This is a method of copying an NT installation to a new hard disk that I
> have been using:
>
> 1) Install a spare NT in another folder (I use C:\Spare). (If your current
> disk is full, do 2) below first, and then install a spare installation on
> your new disk)
>
> 2) Install your new disk, partition and format. Set the intended system
> partition active.
>
> 3) Boot from your \spare install, copy everything except \spare and your
> page file to your new drive. Use SCOPY from the Resource Kit if you want
to
> preserve permissions.
>
> 4) Boot from \winnt, copy \spare to the disk (if you want both NT
> installs).
>
> 5) Make the new disk your boot disk.
>
> 6) Boot from the new disk.
>
> 7) Rearrange drive letters with Disk Administrator, to get the correct
> assignments for your installation.
>
> 8) Try it, thoroughly, and if it would not work for some reason (it
usually
> does) swap the disks back and start over from 2).
>
> You do have the added complexity of the SCSI driver, and - depending on
> your SCSI adapter settings - the possibility that boot.ini might need to
> use the scsi() syntax, in which case you will need to add a copy of your
> SCSI adapter driver renamed to ntbootdd.sys in the root of your system
> partition.
>
> Best regards
>
> Bjorn
> --
> Bjorn Landemoo - mvp2@landemoo.com - http://landemoo.com/
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Server Networking
>
> "Paul D.Smith" <paul_d_smith@x-hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >For various reasons, I want to migrate from an IDE hard-drive to a SCSI
> >hard-drive. Apart from the obvious "buy a SCSI card and SCSI hard-drive
at
> >least as big as the IDE drive", is there any useful information that the
> >group can point me at that will make this painless?
> >
> >In my dreams, I see something like...
> >
> >1. Install SCSI drive.
> >2. "format /s" the drive.
> >3. xcopy entire IDE drive to SCSI (including hidden, system etc).
> >4. Remove IDE drive and reboot.
> >
> >OK, so I'm a dreamer but hopefully the group can point me somewhere that
> >will make the whole process almost this simple.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Paul DS.
>