Migrated Kingston SSD to Samsung 850 Evo, feels a bit slower. Am I doing something wrong?

guachitonico

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When I originally built my desktop computer, I connected a 128GB Kingston SSD (SV300S37A120G), and it was lightning fast.

I recently bought a Samsung 850 Evo SSD (250GB), and installed it using one free power connection and a SATA port.
I successfully migrated my old SSD onto the new one, and everything works perfectly.

The problem is, it doesn't feel as fast as the old one, even though Amazon reviews and Samsung Magician say otherwise (way more IOPS than old drive). It's slightly slower when booting to Windows, and opening things that opened instantly (0.5s) before, and now take a little more (not anything worrying, whatsoever).

Is there anything I'm missing that won't let me squeeze the Evo performance fully?

Only thing I've seen of interest is that the old SSD is still installed in the first SATA port (comes up as Disk 0 in Disk Manager), and the new one is Disk 2 (Disk 1 is HDD).
The motherboard is the Gigabyte Z97P-D3.

Thanks in advance.
 
Solution
Hmm.. here are my OS Optimization settings which are different than yours, in case this helps. (Note that I'm using an 840 Pro, not 850 Evo.)

Virtual Memory: Custom, 200MB PageFile. (I have 16GB RAM and never had an issue with such a small Pagefile, for games like Skyrim, Dragon Age Inquisition, Assassin's Creed Black Flag and Syndicate.)

Prefetch/Superfetch: enabled (try this first, maybe?)


I'm not sure whether RAPID Mode makes a difference or not, but I've always had it enabled, and I never had any trouble doing so. The fact that you can't enable it though, may point to something not being configured quite correctly. My suggestion would be to temporarily disconnect the old SSD, and, as I mentioned yesterday, plug the new one into...
Did you play around with all the options in Samsung Magician? What do you have set in Magician's OS Optimization tab? Check also the RAPID Mode tab.. since your Kingston SSD was there first, Magician may have selected that drive for RAPID mode, so you may be losing out there.

As for the physical connection to the m0b0, it shouldn't make a difference, but there's nothing wrong with swapping the connectors. Finally, if you no longer have any need for the Kingston drive (in this computer) you may as well unplug it (and remove it from the system altogether).


Hht,

Dany
 



Well, I did play with the options a bit, but it's easy to screw up something if you select one of the presets (I selected max. capacity and it bumped down my pagefile size, making me unable to play games due to not having enough ram), so I'm very skeptical about it.

I selected the following options for OS Optimization:

  • - Hibernation disabled
    - Virtual Memory to "Windows manages it automatically"
    - Indexing service enabled
    - Superfetch / Prefetch ; the button says "ENABLE" so I suppose it's disabled.
    - Write Cache Buffer - Enabled
    - Write Cache Flush (empty??) - Enabled

Over provisioning - Haven't touched it, but it seems to be set at recommended 10%

RAPID Mode - I've read that it's pointless since it does things Windows already does with SSDs...?
Nevertheless, Magician won't let me enable it. In the Minimum Requirements panel, there is an X (condition not met) under OS...
Under the "current" column it says "Error in obtaining info"... Weird, since I have Windows 10 Home x64...

As for whether I still need the old drive or not, well it's an SSD, it's in pretty good condition, and I was really happy with it. The only reason I bought an Evo is because of the extra capacity. I guess I'm good with keeping the kingston...? The mobo has 6 SATA ports of which only 4 are taken (SSD1 SSD2 HDD Optical Drive).

Thanks for the help!


 
Hmm.. here are my OS Optimization settings which are different than yours, in case this helps. (Note that I'm using an 840 Pro, not 850 Evo.)

Virtual Memory: Custom, 200MB PageFile. (I have 16GB RAM and never had an issue with such a small Pagefile, for games like Skyrim, Dragon Age Inquisition, Assassin's Creed Black Flag and Syndicate.)

Prefetch/Superfetch: enabled (try this first, maybe?)


I'm not sure whether RAPID Mode makes a difference or not, but I've always had it enabled, and I never had any trouble doing so. The fact that you can't enable it though, may point to something not being configured quite correctly. My suggestion would be to temporarily disconnect the old SSD, and, as I mentioned yesterday, plug the new one into the port that was just vacated. Boot up like that and check if now you can enable RAPID and if the system feels faster now...

That's really all I can think of.. hope it helps! :)

Dany
 
Solution
Frankly our experience with SSDs (and we've used quite a number of them over the past five years), including the Samsungs, of course, is that these "optimization" settings of one kind or another make precious little difference (if any) in the overall speed of the disk. Yes, at times this or that "benchmark" program comparing the differences reflect some slight "improvement" (and even here it's not uncommon that the reverse is true!). In any event, with very few exceptions, we find little day-to-day real-life significant speed differences among a wide range of 2.5" SSDs.
 


Well, I swapped the SATA port with my old SSD, and there isn't much of a different, so I can't really think of anything else.
I guess I just overestimated the performance of the Samsung Evo...

Don't get me wrong, it's lightning fast, but I guess a fresh start is better than migrating, as well.

Thanks for the help everyone!