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I recently purchased a Minolta Z20, and have found that the quality of the
LCD screen in low light was horrible. (Very grainy/noisy)
When you're trying to take a photo, the screen looks good when the focus
has locked in, and the photos turn out OK, but trying to see what you're
trying to take a picture of, before focusing, is near impossible.

Is it only this model, or does it happen to all digitals?
Has anyone else found the same thing on the Z20?
Or, is the one I've bought faulty?

Thanks.
 
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I' think that is because te camera boost the LCD brightness in order you can
see something in low light conditions, instead of looking a completely black
LCD screen

I do not own that camera, so I can't tell you if the situation you decribe
is normal.



"Morris.C" <mrnc@bigpond.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:Xns96126BF656677mrncbigpondcom@202.12.162.100...
>I recently purchased a Minolta Z20, and have found that the quality of the
> LCD screen in low light was horrible. (Very grainy/noisy)
> When you're trying to take a photo, the screen looks good when the focus
> has locked in, and the photos turn out OK, but trying to see what you're
> trying to take a picture of, before focusing, is near impossible.
>
> Is it only this model, or does it happen to all digitals?
> Has anyone else found the same thing on the Z20?
> Or, is the one I've bought faulty?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
 
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On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 23:36:47 +0000 (UTC), "Morris.C" <mrnc@bigpond.com>
wrote:

>I recently purchased a Minolta Z20, and have found that the quality of the
>LCD screen in low light was horrible. (Very grainy/noisy)
>When you're trying to take a photo, the screen looks good when the focus
>has locked in, and the photos turn out OK, but trying to see what you're
>trying to take a picture of, before focusing, is near impossible.
>
>Is it only this model, or does it happen to all digitals?
>Has anyone else found the same thing on the Z20?
>Or, is the one I've bought faulty?

I've got a Z10. Certainly the quality of the screen is not great, and in
low light very noisy, as you say. One has to accept some compromises in
low-priced cameras. I've noticed the screen go very dark briefly *while*
focusing, and when going from very bright to very dark conditions it
sometimes takes the camera a few seconds to adjust.

But if it is literally true that "trying to see what you're trying to
take a picture of, before focusing, is near impossible" then it sounds
as if there's something wrong with your camera.

--
Stephen Poley
 
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In article <Xns96126BF656677mrncbigpondcom@202.12.162.100>, "Morris.C" <mrnc@bigpond.com> wrote:
>I recently purchased a Minolta Z20, and have found that the quality of the
>LCD screen in low light was horrible. (Very grainy/noisy)
>When you're trying to take a photo, the screen looks good when the focus
>has locked in, and the photos turn out OK, but trying to see what you're
>trying to take a picture of, before focusing, is near impossible.
>
>Is it only this model, or does it happen to all digitals?
>Has anyone else found the same thing on the Z20?
>Or, is the one I've bought faulty?

That sounds about right for that model. According to some of the respected
reviewers, Minolta digicams in the Z* and X* series are known for having a
"fuzzy, video camera" look.

What made you choose that model over one of the Panasonics?



--

Rose Parchen
LeicaRose@yahoo.com
 
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On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 23:36:47 +0000 (UTC), "Morris.C" <mrnc@bigpond.com>
wrote:

>I recently purchased a Minolta Z20, and have found that the quality of the
>LCD screen in low light was horrible. (Very grainy/noisy)
>When you're trying to take a photo, the screen looks good when the focus
>has locked in, and the photos turn out OK, but trying to see what you're
>trying to take a picture of, before focusing, is near impossible.
>
>Is it only this model, or does it happen to all digitals?
>Has anyone else found the same thing on the Z20?
>Or, is the one I've bought faulty?

I've got a Z10. Certainly the quality of the screen is not great, and in
low light very noisy, as you say. One has to accept some compromises in
low-priced cameras. I've noticed the screen go very dark briefly *while*
focusing, and when going from very bright to very dark conditions it
sometimes takes the camera a few seconds to adjust.

But if it is literally true that "trying to see what you're trying to
take a picture of, before focusing, is near impossible" then it sounds
as if there's something wrong with your camera.

--
Stephen Poley
 
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Stephen Poley <sbpoleySpicedHamTrap@xs4all.nl> wrote in
news😱2mr21dph2sfv2rtdtbmr1t66ipka6f9aa@4ax.com:

> I've got a Z10. Certainly the quality of the screen is not great, and
> in low light very noisy, as you say. One has to accept some
> compromises in low-priced cameras. I've noticed the screen go very
> dark briefly *while* focusing, and when going from very bright to very
> dark conditions it sometimes takes the camera a few seconds to adjust.
>
> But if it is literally true that "trying to see what you're trying to
> take a picture of, before focusing, is near impossible" then it sounds
> as if there's something wrong with your camera.

The thing is, I don't consider the Z20 a low-priced camera. Having a retail
price, in Australia, of AU$500, being 5MP, 10x optical zoom, etc etc, I
expected a better quality screen.

Another thing I found occurs when you try and view a dark object with a
lighter colored back-ground. The background looks perfect, move the camera
so the darker object is now in view, and the object looks like
grainy/noisy. Very strange.
But, just to mention it again, the photos turn out great.
 
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Stephen Poley <sbpoleySpicedHamTrap@xs4all.nl> wrote in
news😱2mr21dph2sfv2rtdtbmr1t66ipka6f9aa@4ax.com:

> I've got a Z10. Certainly the quality of the screen is not great, and
> in low light very noisy, as you say. One has to accept some
> compromises in low-priced cameras. I've noticed the screen go very
> dark briefly *while* focusing, and when going from very bright to very
> dark conditions it sometimes takes the camera a few seconds to adjust.
>
> But if it is literally true that "trying to see what you're trying to
> take a picture of, before focusing, is near impossible" then it sounds
> as if there's something wrong with your camera.

The thing is, I don't consider the Z20 a low-priced camera. Having a
retail price, in Australia, of AU$500, being 5MP, 10x optical zoom, etc
etc, I expected a better quality screen.

Another thing I found occurs when you try and view a dark object with a
lighter colored back-ground. The background looks perfect, move the
camera so the darker object is now in view, and the object looks
grainy/noisy. Very strange.
But, just to mention it again, the photos turn out great.
 
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On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 00:46:52 +0000 (UTC), "Morris.C" <mrnc@bigpond.com>
wrote:

>Stephen Poley <sbpoleySpicedHamTrap@xs4all.nl> wrote in
>news😱2mr21dph2sfv2rtdtbmr1t66ipka6f9aa@4ax.com:
>
>> I've got a Z10. Certainly the quality of the screen is not great, and
>> in low light very noisy, as you say. One has to accept some
>> compromises in low-priced cameras. I've noticed the screen go very
>> dark briefly *while* focusing, and when going from very bright to very
>> dark conditions it sometimes takes the camera a few seconds to adjust.
>>
>> But if it is literally true that "trying to see what you're trying to
>> take a picture of, before focusing, is near impossible" then it sounds
>> as if there's something wrong with your camera.
>
>The thing is, I don't consider the Z20 a low-priced camera. Having a
>retail price, in Australia, of AU$500, being 5MP, 10x optical zoom, etc
>etc, I expected a better quality screen.

Well, it's a subjective matter, of course. I believe that equates to
about EUR 300, which seems to me fairly low priced for 5Mp and 10X
optical zoom. The Z10 (3Mp and rather cheaper) was the cheapest of the
cameras I seriously considered buying. And it's a lot cheaper than most
of the cameras people rave about in this group anyway. ;-)

....
>But, just to mention it again, the photos turn out great.

Yes, I'm pleased with mine, too.

--
Stephen Poley
 
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> [Morris.C:]
>I recently purchased a Minolta Z20, and have found that the quality of the
> LCD screen in low light was horrible. (Very grainy/noisy)
> When you're trying to take a photo, the screen looks good when the focus
> has locked in, and the photos turn out OK, but trying to see what you're
> trying to take a picture of, before focusing, is near impossible.
>
> Is it only this model, or does it happen to all digitals?
> Has anyone else found the same thing on the Z20?
> Or, is the one I've bought faulty?


I understand that the KM Z20 is, together with other KM models (Z1, Z2, Z3,
Z5 and Z10), one of the few cameras whose LCD and EVF gains up in low light,
which means that, even though the displayed image may be grainy or e, you
can still see something and decently frame your subject.

Many other cameras, including much more expensive ones, such as the
Panasonics FZ20, FZ3, FZ4, FZ10 etc., do not gain up in low light, with the
result that the LCD or the EVF simply blacks out, and you can have no idea
of what you are going to shoot.

Julio.
 
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> [Morris.C:]
>I recently purchased a Minolta Z20, and have found that the quality of the
> LCD screen in low light was horrible. (Very grainy/noisy)
> When you're trying to take a photo, the screen looks good when the focus
> has locked in, and the photos turn out OK, but trying to see what you're
> trying to take a picture of, before focusing, is near impossible.
>
> Is it only this model, or does it happen to all digitals?
> Has anyone else found the same thing on the Z20?
> Or, is the one I've bought faulty?


I understand that the KM Z20 is, together with other KM models (Z1, Z2, Z3,
Z5 and Z10), one of the few cameras whose LCD and EVF gains up in low light,
which means that, even though the displayed image may be grainy or e, you
can still see something and decently frame your subject.

Many other cameras, including much more expensive ones, such as the
Panasonics FZ20, FZ3, FZ4, FZ10 etc., do not gain up in low light, with the
result that the LCD or the EVF simply blacks out, and you can have no idea
of what you are going to shoot.

Julio.
 
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Same thing on my z10. In low light conditions everything becomes
grainy and blury.




On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 23:36:47 +0000 (UTC), "Morris.C" <mrnc@bigpond.com>
wrote:

>I recently purchased a Minolta Z20, and have found that the quality of the
>LCD screen in low light was horrible. (Very grainy/noisy)
>When you're trying to take a photo, the screen looks good when the focus
>has locked in, and the photos turn out OK, but trying to see what you're
>trying to take a picture of, before focusing, is near impossible.
>
>Is it only this model, or does it happen to all digitals?
>Has anyone else found the same thing on the Z20?
>Or, is the one I've bought faulty?
>
>Thanks.
>


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