Mistake in build period

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I am playing a diplomacy game where it was recently discovered that Germany
should have removed an army before the spring moves but no-one noticed this.
The spring moves have already been played. What should be the proper
proceedure at this point. Should Germany remove an army immediately, should
the spring moves be re-played, or should nothing be done until after the
fall moves? Is there a precident for this?

 

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This is the so called "Flying Dutchman" rule, which although I dont think
its in the rulebook, the community has generally accepted what to do. The
standard procedure would be to remove the extra unit as soon as it is
noticed. The unit that should be removed is the same as for the
"auto-removal" rule in the rulebook, unit furthest from home centers by
direct movement, fleets before armies.

It is NOT correct to replay the spring turn or wait till fall.

-Adam


"Larry Lurio" <l.lurio@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>I am playing a diplomacy game where it was recently discovered that Germany
>should have removed an army before the spring moves but no-one noticed
>this. The spring moves have already been played. What should be the proper
>proceedure at this point. Should Germany remove an army immediately,
>should the spring moves be re-played, or should nothing be done until after
>the fall moves? Is there a precident for this?
>

 

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There is no specific rule that deals with this, and I have seen house rules
which go both ways. Both are alternatives in the Model House Rules for
Non-Judge E-Mail Diplomacy, which can be found at
http://diplomiscellany.tripod.com/id7.html . The specific Rule that deals
with the matter is VIII.(2):

(2) Extra Unit (Flying Dutchman) in Published Adjudication:
If it is discovered that an extra unit is present for a player, and that
unit has existed for more than one adjudication, the imbalance between the
number of units present and the number of units to which that player is
actually entitled will be rectified,

Alternative A: if removal is necessary due to the player having more units
than Supply Centers, at the time of the next adjustment turn.

Alternative B: the extra unit will be removed immediately upon recognition
that such a unit exists, if the unit was added to the board (or a unit
remains on the board which should have been adjudicated as having been
disbanded) through an error of the GM. If the unit exists due to too many
units having been built, the rule set forth in these House Rules pertaining
to excess builds shall be employed to determine the unit that should be
removed. If the unit exists due to not enough units having been disbanded,
the rule set forth in these House Rules pertaining to civil disorder
removals shall be employed to determine the unit that should be removed,
with the determination of distance for civil disorder purposes to be made
pursuant to the most recently adjudicated position.


"Larry Lurio" <l.lurio@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> I am playing a diplomacy game where it was recently discovered that
Germany
> should have removed an army before the spring moves but no-one noticed
this.
> The spring moves have already been played. What should be the proper
> proceedure at this point. Should Germany remove an army immediately,
should
> the spring moves be re-played, or should nothing be done until after the
> fall moves? Is there a precident for this?
>
>