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"measekite" <measekite@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> How many sets or how long have you been using MIS ink?
Since I bought the printer - September. I first installed the OEM carts
that came with the printer. MIS advised against "mixing and matching" OEM
and MIS inks. Niel Slade said to go for it and just add MIS to the OEM
carts as necessary. I followed Neil's advice and I've been very happy with
the results. I am on the first 2 ounce set of MIS inks. I refill all
carts when the lowest one is no more than 75 - 80 percent empty. The top of
the sponge in the OEM carts (my limited experience) doesn't reabsorb ink on
refilling, and this was of concern to me, but it works ok with absorbtion of
the lower two thirds to one half. Two ounces = about 60 cc. and I think
that refilling the reservoir takes around 9 - 10 cc. Based on this
estimate, I've done about five refills each of photo cyan and photo magenta,
about four of yellow, about 4 of magenta, about three of cyan, and about
three of black. That totals about 24 refills so far and many more to come.
An original OEM cart has more ink due to full absorption in the sponge plus
a full reservoir. On a very conservative basis, if two ounces of ink only
gives 4-5 full refills, the six two once bottles save enough to buy a new
printer after each set!
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> Any problem with fading?
All of our prints are either in albums or in frames under glass and not in
the sun. I haven't noticed any difference in our prints, but they haven't
been exposed to the kind of light or atmosphere that creates the worst
fading. I've seen one thread that describes fading evaluation, and Canon
OEM fades the least according to that evaluation. According to them the
next best was sensient formulabs inks. >
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> Do you use vivid, image optimizer, photo optimizer, and photo noise
> reduction on the effects menu?
No. I do all my image manipulation in Photoshop Elements 2 (and am going to
install PE3 when I get a chance). I print with the settings on the printer
software at Glossy photo paper, manual, and set the manual setting for
intensity to -4 which I feel gives me the truest skin tones with my setup.
In PE2 I most often adjust levels and, If I print something that is sent to
me as an attachment or a picture that I need to crop pretty severely, I use
the "unsharp mask" to sharpen the image. Other adjustments are done as
necessary for color correction, etc. This way I can get a more predictable
print as close to the appearance of the monitor image without the printer
overriding what I have done in PE2.
I had originally purchased an Epson Stylus 900 when it was touted as a good
photo printer. This was before the Epson photo series came out. I was
happy with the photo prints, but I did run into problems with some print
head clogging as I was not aware that it was necessary to do color prints
often to prevent these problems. I have an HP5p laser printer that I use
for all text printing, so the inkjet printer is used only for photos and
color graphics. I was using all epson OEM carts. When I had clogging I
started to read the printer newsgroup info and got the best advice from
Arthur Entlich. I did get the printer to work properly again, but in the
process of learning more about printers I stumbled upon Neil Slade's info.
I had briefly tried filling Epson virgin MIS carts with MIS inks and could
not get the print colors to come out right. MIS really tried to help, but I
could not duplicate the OEM color balance with MIS epson replacement inks.
In addition, refilling Epson carts was really a pain in the ass. Neil spoke
so highly of MIS for Canon printers and touted the I960 so highly that I
bought one. The results are so much better than my old Epson - even at 7x
magnification - that I gave my Epson away. in addition, the carts are so
easy to refill that it is just second nature now. I periodically check the
ink levels visually - only takes a minute. MIS graciously credited me the
Epson carts and inks I had purchased from them and had not been happy with,
and sent me Canon i960 carts and inks. They have worked out better than my
expectation.
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> Burt wrote:
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>>"measekite" <measekite@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>Burt,
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>>>What is the longest you have let you i960 sit idle without printing?
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>>One week
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>>>Ever have a head clog with MIS inks?
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>>not yet
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>>>Have you used any other 3rd party BRANDED inks? If so what brand? Ever
>>>used any 3rd party NON-BRANDED
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>> inks? If so what is the source to purchase?
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>>Only MIS, but I did buy a set of inks from Computer Friends. Neil Slade
>>suggested that one should buy the kit from Computer friends because they
>>have the best plastic plug to use after refilling an OEM cart. I haven't
>>used their ink yet, but the plugs are really good. I believe that, if
>>you call them, they will sell you the plugs without your having to buy the
>>refill kit.
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>>>I have a Canon IP4000 that I am happy with. I have had it for about 5
>>>months and have about a third of the original carts. I am getting ready
>>>to buy some replacements to have on hand. MIS interests me. But so do
>>>the ones for $.250 a cart. I am concerned about head clogs.
>>>
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>>So far, no problem with MIS inks
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>>>Also, I have to make a choice if I do go with MIS as to replacement ink
>>>cartridges or refilling my own, either OEM or a purchased set. I read
>>>some of the instructions but it seems maybe a little messy to a big pain
>>>in the ass.
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>>I used MIS inks directly in the original OEM carts. Punched the little
>>plastic ball into the cart, used a syringe to refill, and used Computer
>>Friends plugs to reseal. If you read Neil Slade's web site regarding
>>inkjet printers, inks, and papers, you can adapt his technique to your
>>style of working and the refilling is not so messy once you get into a
>>routine for doing it. I am a retired dentist and rubber gloves and
>>syringes are second nature to me. If you haven't read Neil's info, go
>>onto the following site -
>>http://www.neilslade.com/papers/inkjetstuff.html - very wordy and sort of
>>disjointed, but really good information. Based on his info I bought the
>>Canon i960 and MIS inks. I am still useing the original OEM carts and
>>refilling them with MIS inks as necessary. I did buy a set of MIS virgin
>>carts and filled them. Their little rubber plugs are too small and
>>difficult to handle, but I will use them for my next set of carts. I
>>don't know whose carts I will buy next. I think that Neil likes
>>inkgrabber prefilled carts, and they can then be refilled. I would rather
>>find empty carts and stick with the ink I have been successful with. I
>>might even splurge and buy another set of Canon carts as I know they can
>>be refilled successfully and I can use MIS ink and Copmputer Friends plugs
>>with them.
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>>I do my refilling right at my desk in a room with a nice wool berber
>>carpet and haven't had a problem. I do it in a large plastic storage
>>container to contain any spills if they should happen. Before I open the
>>cartridge I open the ink bottle, draw ink into a syringe, CLOSE the bottle
>>tightly to avoid accidentally bumping it while open, and then do what Neil
>>suggests - with rubber gloves on put a finger under the hole that ink
>>comes out of on the bottom, open the top with the computer friends
>>stopper, inject the ink, and replace the stopper. Then I open the ink
>>container, empty any excess ink from the syringe back into the container
>>and CLOSE tightly to avoid a spill. All this is done over the plastic
>>container. Wipe any excess ink off the cart (always have plenty of paper
>>towels before you start), pat the bottom hole that the ink comes out of to
>>be sure there is no excess there, watch it for a bit to be sure there is
>>no ink dripping out, and replace it into the printer. I have a separate
>>syringe for each color and have marked them with the color so that, if
>>there is any residue that isn't washed out, I cant contaminate another
>>color ink.
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>>I would suggest that you start out doing refilling in a room where a spill
>>won't matter. I only started refilling at my desk when I had the
>>confidence (and the protective container) to do it in a more refined
>>finished space. If you have any questions, Neil is very gracious in
>>answering and I will be glad to help if I can. He is really the expert on
>>these issues and I have just followed his instructions. In essence, I am
>>only one page in the book ahead of you!
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>>son papers, when I want to print on the back side - greeting cards and
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>>>>custom post cards - as it will accept inkjet printing and pen inks on
>>>>the non glossy side. There is a faint logo printed on the backside
>>>>which is barely noticeable. The Kirkland paper will not print on the
>>>>back side.
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>>>>I have been using MIS inks to refill OEM cartridges and have done side
>>>>by side tests against the OEM canon inks. There is virtually no
>>>>difference in color management. My photo management sofware is
>>>>Photoshop Elements 2 and I set the printer software to glossy photo
>>>>paper and manual setting with a -4 setting for intensity - the same
>>>>setting I found best with OEM canon inks on my printer, a canon i960. I
>>>>have printed well over 1,000 photos with MIS inks and have had no
>>>>problems. I have already saved enough money on my ink costs to pay for
>>>>another printer should mine be damaged by aftermarket inks.
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>>>>"bmoag" <apquilts@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:LGKRd.1541$DC6.1230@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
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>>>>>Epson glossy photo paper purchased at Costco works better on Canon
>>>>>printers than Canon's own glossy paper which is insanely overpriced.
>>>>>Hi gloss paper is completely different than the lower cost glossy paper
>>>>>and in my experience Epson's Premium Glossy, particularly on a hi end
>>>>>Epson ink printer, is the most photo-like of all paper surfaces, that
>>>>>is it mimics (actually surpasses) the traditional color glossy wet
>>>>>print.
>>>>>Epson Premium Lustre paper will also work well with Canon printers but
>>>>>you have to find the right settings.
>>>>>If you care about your printer warranty, and have any concept of color
>>>>>management, you should stick to Canon ink cartridges.
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