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I am looking to upgrade my current mobo. Does anyone know if the PC 2.2
slots will be backwards compatible with my a couple of my old PC 1.1
devices?

Also, is it better to get a mobo with on-board graphics or to just buy a
standard PCI video card? I'm not looking for serious gaming. All I want are
some good latest graphics.

Thanks.
 
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The new standard top of the line, is PCI Express. That will
have the longest future life. Currently for high-end fast
graphics you want a mobo with AGP 8X support, the mobo might
have an on-board graphics chip but be sure you have an AGP
slot for upgrades. Also you will want 4 to 6 PCI slots for
expansion. The current FSB should be at least 533 and 800
or faster is possible. So NOT plan on reusing your old RAM,
it will be too slow. Also, you'll want a CPU upgrade. So
pick a CPU brand, decide how much money you want to spend,
then pick a mobo. Then pick your RAM and other hardware,
such as hard and optical drives.

And PCI slots are generally backwards compatible, but keep
in mind that using old devices may slow the new system,
negating the advantages of your upgrades.


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"Jack Carlson" <jack@email.com> wrote in message
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|I am looking to upgrade my current mobo. Does anyone know
if the PC 2.2
| slots will be backwards compatible with my a couple of my
old PC 1.1
| devices?
|
| Also, is it better to get a mobo with on-board graphics or
to just buy a
| standard PCI video card? I'm not looking for serious
gaming. All I want are
| some good latest graphics.
|
| Thanks.
|
|
 
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Thanks for the info. Any preference with a micro-ATX to standard ATX? I
understand the micro is smaller, but I saw one I like that is micro and was
wondering if there are differences.


"Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
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> The new standard top of the line, is PCI Express. That will
> have the longest future life. Currently for high-end fast
> graphics you want a mobo with AGP 8X support, the mobo might
> have an on-board graphics chip but be sure you have an AGP
> slot for upgrades. Also you will want 4 to 6 PCI slots for
> expansion. The current FSB should be at least 533 and 800
> or faster is possible. So NOT plan on reusing your old RAM,
> it will be too slow. Also, you'll want a CPU upgrade. So
> pick a CPU brand, decide how much money you want to spend,
> then pick a mobo. Then pick your RAM and other hardware,
> such as hard and optical drives.
>
> And PCI slots are generally backwards compatible, but keep
> in mind that using old devices may slow the new system,
> negating the advantages of your upgrades.
>
>
> --
> The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
>
>
> "Jack Carlson" <jack@email.com> wrote in message
> news:O3eRxp9sEHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> |I am looking to upgrade my current mobo. Does anyone know
> if the PC 2.2
> | slots will be backwards compatible with my a couple of my
> old PC 1.1
> | devices?
> |
> | Also, is it better to get a mobo with on-board graphics or
> to just buy a
> | standard PCI video card? I'm not looking for serious
> gaming. All I want are
> | some good latest graphics.
> |
> | Thanks.
> |
> |
>
>
 
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Also, so does that mean that all PCI 2.2 slots are PCI express?

"Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
news:OkN#Vy9sEHA.636@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> The new standard top of the line, is PCI Express. That will
> have the longest future life. Currently for high-end fast
> graphics you want a mobo with AGP 8X support, the mobo might
> have an on-board graphics chip but be sure you have an AGP
> slot for upgrades. Also you will want 4 to 6 PCI slots for
> expansion. The current FSB should be at least 533 and 800
> or faster is possible. So NOT plan on reusing your old RAM,
> it will be too slow. Also, you'll want a CPU upgrade. So
> pick a CPU brand, decide how much money you want to spend,
> then pick a mobo. Then pick your RAM and other hardware,
> such as hard and optical drives.
>
> And PCI slots are generally backwards compatible, but keep
> in mind that using old devices may slow the new system,
> negating the advantages of your upgrades.
>
>
> --
> The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
>
>
> "Jack Carlson" <jack@email.com> wrote in message
> news:O3eRxp9sEHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> |I am looking to upgrade my current mobo. Does anyone know
> if the PC 2.2
> | slots will be backwards compatible with my a couple of my
> old PC 1.1
> | devices?
> |
> | Also, is it better to get a mobo with on-board graphics or
> to just buy a
> | standard PCI video card? I'm not looking for serious
> gaming. All I want are
> | some good latest graphics.
> |
> | Thanks.
> |
> |
>
>
 
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Jack,

The one thing I've noticed about micro ATX vs ATX is that the ATX boards
seem to have more PCI slots. Usually 5 vs 2 or 3 on the micro boards.
Sometimes fewer memory slots although this seems to be more an issue of
price rather than size.

Wayne
"Jack Carlson" <jack@email.com> wrote in message
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> Also, so does that mean that all PCI 2.2 slots are PCI express?
>
> "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
> news:OkN#Vy9sEHA.636@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> The new standard top of the line, is PCI Express. That will
>> have the longest future life. Currently for high-end fast
>> graphics you want a mobo with AGP 8X support, the mobo might
>> have an on-board graphics chip but be sure you have an AGP
>> slot for upgrades. Also you will want 4 to 6 PCI slots for
>> expansion. The current FSB should be at least 533 and 800
>> or faster is possible. So NOT plan on reusing your old RAM,
>> it will be too slow. Also, you'll want a CPU upgrade. So
>> pick a CPU brand, decide how much money you want to spend,
>> then pick a mobo. Then pick your RAM and other hardware,
>> such as hard and optical drives.
>>
>> And PCI slots are generally backwards compatible, but keep
>> in mind that using old devices may slow the new system,
>> negating the advantages of your upgrades.
>>
>>
>> --
>> The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
>> But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
>>
>>
>> "Jack Carlson" <jack@email.com> wrote in message
>> news:O3eRxp9sEHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> |I am looking to upgrade my current mobo. Does anyone know
>> if the PC 2.2
>> | slots will be backwards compatible with my a couple of my
>> old PC 1.1
>> | devices?
>> |
>> | Also, is it better to get a mobo with on-board graphics or
>> to just buy a
>> | standard PCI video card? I'm not looking for serious
>> gaming. All I want are
>> | some good latest graphics.
>> |
>> | Thanks.
>> |
>> |
>>
>>
>
>
 
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The only difference is that the micro ATX has only 2 PCI
slots (generally) while the full size ATX board has 4-6 PCI
slots. Unless you have to have a small case, the standard
mid-tower case will use the ATX board. You can put a
microATX mobo in the standard case, but it does limit you
and the case will still take up the space and the micro mobo
costs about the same as the standard ATX.

Since you said you were not into gaming, you probably don't
intend to have a portable computer that you'd take to
LAN-parties, they even have smaller than mATX mobo, to fit
in little cases, such as those by Shuttle.

www.intel.com has lots of info on motherboards and
advice. Intel makes and sells mobo under their own brand
name, but the also list mobo made by other who use Intel
chips. If you want an AMD, see www.amd.com to learn about
their lines. AMD does have a 64 bit CPU, which is as yet,
not available from Intel. But Intel as often said to run
Office apps better than AMD. But AMD is less expensive.
But then, none of the one-step down CPUs and mobo are
expensive now.


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"Jack Carlson" <jack@email.com> wrote in message
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| Thanks for the info. Any preference with a micro-ATX to
standard ATX? I
| understand the micro is smaller, but I saw one I like that
is micro and was
| wondering if there are differences.
|
|
| "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote
in message
| news:OkN#Vy9sEHA.636@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| > The new standard top of the line, is PCI Express. That
will
| > have the longest future life. Currently for high-end
fast
| > graphics you want a mobo with AGP 8X support, the mobo
might
| > have an on-board graphics chip but be sure you have an
AGP
| > slot for upgrades. Also you will want 4 to 6 PCI slots
for
| > expansion. The current FSB should be at least 533 and
800
| > or faster is possible. So NOT plan on reusing your old
RAM,
| > it will be too slow. Also, you'll want a CPU upgrade.
So
| > pick a CPU brand, decide how much money you want to
spend,
| > then pick a mobo. Then pick your RAM and other
hardware,
| > such as hard and optical drives.
| >
| > And PCI slots are generally backwards compatible, but
keep
| > in mind that using old devices may slow the new system,
| > negating the advantages of your upgrades.
| >
| >
| > --
| > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
| > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| >
| >
| > "Jack Carlson" <jack@email.com> wrote in message
| > news:O3eRxp9sEHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > |I am looking to upgrade my current mobo. Does anyone
know
| > if the PC 2.2
| > | slots will be backwards compatible with my a couple of
my
| > old PC 1.1
| > | devices?
| > |
| > | Also, is it better to get a mobo with on-board
graphics or
| > to just buy a
| > | standard PCI video card? I'm not looking for serious
| > gaming. All I want are
| > | some good latest graphics.
| > |
| > | Thanks.
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
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No, do a Google for "pci 2.2" "pci 1.1" and "pci express" to
what the differences are.


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The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


"Jack Carlson" <jack@email.com> wrote in message
news:%23CrGpbBtEHA.3152@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| Also, so does that mean that all PCI 2.2 slots are PCI
express?
|
| "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote
in message
| news:OkN#Vy9sEHA.636@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| > The new standard top of the line, is PCI Express. That
will
| > have the longest future life. Currently for high-end
fast
| > graphics you want a mobo with AGP 8X support, the mobo
might
| > have an on-board graphics chip but be sure you have an
AGP
| > slot for upgrades. Also you will want 4 to 6 PCI slots
for
| > expansion. The current FSB should be at least 533 and
800
| > or faster is possible. So NOT plan on reusing your old
RAM,
| > it will be too slow. Also, you'll want a CPU upgrade.
So
| > pick a CPU brand, decide how much money you want to
spend,
| > then pick a mobo. Then pick your RAM and other
hardware,
| > such as hard and optical drives.
| >
| > And PCI slots are generally backwards compatible, but
keep
| > in mind that using old devices may slow the new system,
| > negating the advantages of your upgrades.
| >
| >
| > --
| > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
| > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| >
| >
| > "Jack Carlson" <jack@email.com> wrote in message
| > news:O3eRxp9sEHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > |I am looking to upgrade my current mobo. Does anyone
know
| > if the PC 2.2
| > | slots will be backwards compatible with my a couple of
my
| > old PC 1.1
| > | devices?
| > |
| > | Also, is it better to get a mobo with on-board
graphics or
| > to just buy a
| > | standard PCI video card? I'm not looking for serious
| > gaming. All I want are
| > | some good latest graphics.
| > |
| > | Thanks.
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|