Question Monitor upgrade! are ips panels really 1 ms?

[XOKOMOKO]

Hello there! I am looking forward to upgrade my monitor(1080p 60hertz) to 144 hertz or 165 hertz at 1080p
I play competitive fast paced shooters like valorant and csgo so I will definitely benefit from low response times
I am considering these monitors

1 ) LG ultragear 24Gn650
144 hertz IPS 1 ms
https://amzn.eu/d/h8madEc

2) LG ultragear 24GL650F
144 hertz tn panel 1ms
https://amzn.eu/d/7TRlBy3

3) gigabyte g24f
165 hertz (170 oc) ips panel
https://amzn.eu/d/dSbQwO3

The question is
I need low response times for technically no motion blur and ghosting and a good quality panel (which would last long)
so the best candidate for me would be the tn panel from LG (24GL650F ) but this model launched in 2020 and is a bit old with fat bezels (kinda ugly looking)
and the LG 24Gn650 with the ips panel is new, has a good quality stand, build and promises 1ms grey to grey response time.
LG ones also have a reputation and a much better quality than the gigabyte one, BUT the g24f from gigabyte has a 170 hertz refresh rate BUT 2 ms grey to grey response time

which monitor should I buy? does the gigabyte's g24f have an advantage over the LG ones as it has a higher refresh rate but 2 ms response time?
The lg's tn panel one has a true 1ms response time(probably) and 144 hertz but it is an older model
and can LG's IPS panel really offer low response times like 1 ms because ips panels as far as i know technically are not 1 ms?
I personally want to buy the 24Gn650 as it looks good on paper but I am confused.

 

[sizzling]

Without knowing how the response time was calculated it is a meaningless number. You really need to find in depth reviews of the monitor that explain how they test them and use a consistent methodology when comparing monitors

View: https://youtu.be/-Zmxl-Btpgk


Yes IPS can be very fast. I’m running a PG279QM, it might be worth looking at a review as it shows how fast IPS can be.

 

[XOKOMOKO]

Without knowing how the response time was calculated it is a meaningless number. You really need to find in depth reviews of the monitor that explain how they test them and use a consistent methodology when comparing monitors

View: https://youtu.be/-Zmxl-Btpgk


Yes IPS can be very fast. I’m running a PG279QM, it might be worth looking at a review as it shows how fast IPS can be.

thanks for the answer I have edited the question could you please read it again thanks

 

[sizzling]

See if those monitors have been reviewed by Hardware Unboxed, they do excellent monitor reviews. Another great site for in depth monitor reviews is https://www.rtings.com/

 

[Nighthawk117]

Hello there! I am looking forward to upgrade my monitor(1080p 60hertz) to 144 hertz or 165 hertz at 1080p
I play competitive fast paced shooters like valorant and csgo so I will definitely benefit from low response times
I am considering these monitors

1 ) LG ultragear 24Gn650
144 hertz IPS 1 ms
https://amzn.eu/d/h8madEc

2) LG ultragear 24GL650F
144 hertz tn panel 1ms
https://amzn.eu/d/7TRlBy3

3) gigabyte g24f
165 hertz (170 oc) ips panel
https://amzn.eu/d/dSbQwO3

The question is
I need low response times for technically no motion blur and ghosting and a good quality panel (which would last long)
so the best candidate for me would be the tn panel from LG (24GL650F ) but this model launched in 2020 and is a bit old with fat bezels (kinda ugly looking)
and the LG 24Gn650 with the ips panel is new, has a good quality stand, build and promises 1ms grey to grey response time.
LG ones also have a reputation and a much better quality than the gigabyte one, BUT the g24f from gigabyte has a 170 hertz refresh rate BUT 2 ms grey to grey response time

which monitor should I buy? does the gigabyte's g24f have an advantage over the LG ones as it has a higher refresh rate but 2 ms response time?
The lg's tn panel one has a true 1ms response time(probably) and 144 hertz but it is an older model
and can LG's IPS panel really offer low response times like 1 ms because ips panels as far as i know technically are not 1 ms?
I personally want to buy the 24Gn650 as it looks good on paper but I am confused.

If you intend on using this monitor for many years as your primary monitor then I would not get the 24GL650F TN. The picture quality is garbage compared to the other IPS monitors you mention, and as you say it's also ugly to look at it.
If it were me buying I would go with the LG Ultragear 24Gn650. As @sizzling says the response time numbers are not easily compared because they can be calculated in different ways. https://www.rtings.com/ will properly test them but I couldn't see a review for the Gigabyte. I don't think you would be disappointed with any of those IPS monitors though.

 

[hotaru.hino]

If the end goal here is to minimize motion blur, response time is only part of the picture. Because all non CRT monitors use what's called sample-and-hold to display images, coupled with the way our eyes work, you're going to see motion blur anyway. The only ways to mitigate this are to have a display with:

• A really fast refresh rate and can produce the FPS to match
• A black-frame-insertion (BFI) feature. However this can cause the appearance of strobing, on top of the brightness being lowered.

Currently BFI is the only practical way to eliminate motion blur, and the feature AFAIK is only available on higher end monitors or TVs.

 

[Cookiezaddict]

RTINGS. They are kind of the best to decide what monitors to get.