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"Tony" <trome52@myway.com> wrote:

>Have 8400 3.4 mhz
>1 gig 533 ram
>
>Is there a big jump from 1 to 2 gigs of ram? Speed wise.
>
>Thanks,
>Tony

What are you doing with your 8400?

What is the Windows Task Manger/Performance section [i.e., your
page file usage figures/graphs] telling you?

Why are you posting this question twice?

Why am I answering you twice?

[Because at this late hour, after a very hard day, my wise-ass
tendencies spring to the fore?]

Nevertheless, my questions /are/ valid. e.g., given my usage
[plain vanilla, general office type stuff, web surfing, email,
Usenet - no binaries downloads, no MP3s, no games, no heavy duty
graphics processing/editing, no Fast Fourier Transforms]
increasing the memory on my D4400 from 256 MB to 768 MB [I was
only gonna do a 256MB chip, but crucial had such a great prices
on the 512 MBs ...] produced barely noticeable differences. But
then, my Peak Commit Charge right now [after five days of normal
usage] is only 284.5 MB, so only 284.5 - 256 = 28.5 MB of that
additional 512MB has done anything for me over the past five
days. [Like I said, crucial.com was giving away 512MB chips that
day.]

But I'm ready for when my job starts involving a lotta graphics
processing and FFTs. ;-> [And look how many SETI points I could
accumulate while waiting.]

So the questions are, what is your computer doing for you right
now and what can/will it do better/faster if you double the
memory. Only you can generate the info that you need to make
that decision of whether an addition gig of RAM will produce
improved performance. The rest of us, with no knowledge of your
usage, cannot make an informed recommendation.
--
OJ III
[Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading.
Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]
 
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For doing what kinds of tasks? All at once, or one at a time? For most people,
increasing memory from 1GB to 2GB will not make the computer run any faster.

.... Ben Myers

On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 03:29:41 GMT, "Tony" <trome52@myway.com> wrote:

>Have 8400 3.4 mhz
>1 gig 533 ram
>
>Is there a big jump from 1 to 2 gigs of ram? Speed wise.
>
>Thanks,
>Tony
>
>
 
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Tony coughed up:
> Have 8400 3.4 mhz
> 1 gig 533 ram
>
> Is there a big jump from 1 to 2 gigs of ram? Speed wise.
>
> Thanks,
> Tony


Since we cannot tell what you are really using your machine for, let me help
by boiling down the issues for you:

Rule #1: When the computer "runs out" of memory for its programs, it starts
something called "paging": chunks of memory are written (paged out) to the
disk to make room. When needed, that memory can be "paged in" again.

Rule #2: Rule #1 is dog slooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww because hard drives
are much slower than memory, and is therefore to be totally avoided if
possible. So to that end, people like to have larger and larger memory
systems.

So here's the rub: If you're not running out of memory with your current
collection of programs that you run /simultaneously/, then adding more
memory does nothing at all.


--
Whyowhydidn'tsunmakejavarequireanuppercaselettertostartclassnames....
 

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"Ogden Johnson III" <oj3usmc@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:tekjn0larjkqdqeqavbkdl7ire584lmm1f@4ax.com...
> "Tony" <trome52@myway.com> wrote:
>
> >Have 8400 3.4 mhz
> >1 gig 533 ram
> >
> >Is there a big jump from 1 to 2 gigs of ram? Speed wise.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Tony
>
> What are you doing with your 8400?
>
> What is the Windows Task Manger/Performance section [i.e., your
> page file usage figures/graphs] telling you?
>
> Why are you posting this question twice?
>
> Why am I answering you twice?
>
> [Because at this late hour, after a very hard day, my wise-ass
> tendencies spring to the fore?]
>
> Nevertheless, my questions /are/ valid. e.g., given my usage
> [plain vanilla, general office type stuff, web surfing, email,
> Usenet - no binaries downloads, no MP3s, no games, no heavy duty
> graphics processing/editing, no Fast Fourier Transforms]
> increasing the memory on my D4400 from 256 MB to 768 MB [I was
> only gonna do a 256MB chip, but crucial had such a great prices
> on the 512 MBs ...] produced barely noticeable differences. But
> then, my Peak Commit Charge right now [after five days of normal
> usage] is only 284.5 MB, so only 284.5 - 256 = 28.5 MB of that
> additional 512MB has done anything for me over the past five
> days. [Like I said, crucial.com was giving away 512MB chips that
> day.]
>
> But I'm ready for when my job starts involving a lotta graphics
> processing and FFTs. ;-> [And look how many SETI points I could
> accumulate while waiting.]
>
> So the questions are, what is your computer doing for you right
> now and what can/will it do better/faster if you double the
> memory. Only you can generate the info that you need to make
> that decision of whether an addition gig of RAM will produce
> improved performance. The rest of us, with no knowledge of your
> usage, cannot make an informed recommendation.
> --
> OJ III
> [Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading.
> Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]

Sorry about the posting twice but had errors on first post and thought it
didn't go through..

I am using dreamweaver and other related programs(fireworks, Adobe
Illustrator, Photoshop, Search engine tools, and so on) at the same time if
needed. I am online and on call for questions from clients so usually I will
be working on a project and get a call and open up what program they are
having problem with to get a birds eye view of what they are tellng me.

So on any giving day I can be on five six hefty (hefty to me) programs with
large files at one time and I noticed my Page File Usage which is around 250
megs shot to around 800 to 900 megs. Then the pc slows down.

I guess I will get it and just find out if it was worth the investment.

Thanks tons for your reply,
Tony
 
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With the usage pattern you've described, another gig may make the computer less
sluggish when many programs are open and in use... Ben Myers

On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 15:48:35 GMT, "Tony" <trome52@myway.com> wrote:

>
>"Ogden Johnson III" <oj3usmc@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:tekjn0larjkqdqeqavbkdl7ire584lmm1f@4ax.com...
>> "Tony" <trome52@myway.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Have 8400 3.4 mhz
>> >1 gig 533 ram
>> >
>> >Is there a big jump from 1 to 2 gigs of ram? Speed wise.
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Tony
>>
>> What are you doing with your 8400?
>>
>> What is the Windows Task Manger/Performance section [i.e., your
>> page file usage figures/graphs] telling you?
>>
>> Why are you posting this question twice?
>>
>> Why am I answering you twice?
>>
>> [Because at this late hour, after a very hard day, my wise-ass
>> tendencies spring to the fore?]
>>
>> Nevertheless, my questions /are/ valid. e.g., given my usage
>> [plain vanilla, general office type stuff, web surfing, email,
>> Usenet - no binaries downloads, no MP3s, no games, no heavy duty
>> graphics processing/editing, no Fast Fourier Transforms]
>> increasing the memory on my D4400 from 256 MB to 768 MB [I was
>> only gonna do a 256MB chip, but crucial had such a great prices
>> on the 512 MBs ...] produced barely noticeable differences. But
>> then, my Peak Commit Charge right now [after five days of normal
>> usage] is only 284.5 MB, so only 284.5 - 256 = 28.5 MB of that
>> additional 512MB has done anything for me over the past five
>> days. [Like I said, crucial.com was giving away 512MB chips that
>> day.]
>>
>> But I'm ready for when my job starts involving a lotta graphics
>> processing and FFTs. ;-> [And look how many SETI points I could
>> accumulate while waiting.]
>>
>> So the questions are, what is your computer doing for you right
>> now and what can/will it do better/faster if you double the
>> memory. Only you can generate the info that you need to make
>> that decision of whether an addition gig of RAM will produce
>> improved performance. The rest of us, with no knowledge of your
>> usage, cannot make an informed recommendation.
>> --
>> OJ III
>> [Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading.
>> Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]
>
>Sorry about the posting twice but had errors on first post and thought it
>didn't go through..
>
>I am using dreamweaver and other related programs(fireworks, Adobe
>Illustrator, Photoshop, Search engine tools, and so on) at the same time if
>needed. I am online and on call for questions from clients so usually I will
>be working on a project and get a call and open up what program they are
>having problem with to get a birds eye view of what they are tellng me.
>
>So on any giving day I can be on five six hefty (hefty to me) programs with
>large files at one time and I noticed my Page File Usage which is around 250
>megs shot to around 800 to 900 megs. Then the pc slows down.
>
>I guess I will get it and just find out if it was worth the investment.
>
>Thanks tons for your reply,
>Tony
>
>
>
>
>
>
>