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Hi.

Using an
• intel i9-13900K
• WD_Black SN850X 2TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 NVMe Gaming SSD up to 7300 MB/s
And one of these RAM choices.
• Kingston FURY Beast Black XMP DDR5 64 GB (2x32 GB) 6000MT/s DDR5 CL40 DIMM
Or.
• 64GB G.Skill DDR5 Ripjaws S5 6400MHz CL32 Dual Channel Kit
Not sure which is best.
Or
• This looks really nice, and one I would prabably go for, but not sure it would be to tall for my Noctua NH-D15 cooler.

Also an ASUS RTX 4080

Question please.

Will any of these boards allow me to run the Ram at the full speed it is.
And the M.2 at gen 4 speed.
Without OC'ing them.

I asked on Amazon an was told this first one ⤵ wont, that will only run the ram at max 5600mhz, and the M.2 at gen 3 speed.


Or would this one be better?

Or would this one be better?

And one final question, if I may.
Of all these boards. combined with the above ram/CPU, SSD, and GPU.
Which would be the best / most reliable, and, "utilize the parts to there best performance" motherboard to go for please?

Thank you for any help.
 
All 3 of those boards can support 5 M.2 drives.

All M.2 ports on all 3 boards appear to support at least PCIe 4.0.

Not sure where the idea of gen 3 speeds comes from.

Reliability can't be determined. Just hope you have good luck with your choice.
 
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Daynhg said:
Hi.

Using an
• intel i9-13900K
• WD_Black SN850X 2TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 NVMe Gaming SSD up to 7300 MB/s
And one of these RAM choices.
• Kingston FURY Beast Black XMP DDR5 64 GB (2x32 GB) 6000MT/s DDR5 CL40 DIMM
Or.
• 64GB G.Skill DDR5 Ripjaws S5 6400MHz CL32 Dual Channel Kit
Not sure which is best.
Or
• This looks really nice, and one I would prabably go for, but not sure it would be to tall for my Noctua NH-D15 cooler.

Also an ASUS RTX 4080

Question please.

Will any of these boards allow me to run the Ram at the full speed it is.
And the M.2 at gen 4 speed.
Without OC'ing them.

I asked on Amazon an was told this first one ⤵ wont, that will only run the ram at max 5600mhz, and the M.2 at gen 3 speed.


Or would this one be better?

Or would this one be better?

And one final question, if I may.
Of all these boards. combined with the above ram/CPU, SSD, and GPU.
Which would be the best / most reliable, and, "utilize the parts to there best performance" motherboard to go for please?

Thank you for any help.
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From my personal experiance msi i have had the worst luck with ive had 3 boards all with ram slot problems
 
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Lafong and beyondlogic​

Thanks guys. you have eanswered my questions.
I just want to get the rest of this thing purchase dnw, its been going on too long. (my own indisisive fault.)
Il stick with the first choice the ASUS board, it has the most good reviews by thousands more than the the two MSI boards.
Also the Gen 3 speed thing was some feedback I had from Amazon quwestion I asked.
Amazon Question.

ASUS ROG Strix Z790-E will with a WD_Black SN850X 2TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4? thank you."​

Mikeybabes answered:​

"It will be fine, but it'll only run at Gen3 speeds. Your choice is paying a little more for a Gen4 device typically over a Gen3; buying something now to be utilized later is not always the best choice. I'd use a Gen3 unit with maybe better VFM."​


I wasn't quite sure what he meant by "Your choice is paying a little more for a Gen4 device."
Whether he meant, "I was paying more for an M.2 gen 4." Or that "I should buy a Gen4 Mobo??"
That was, and is still confusing.

Or what he meant by Gen3 with VFM. I can only assume he meant "value for money."?

I also read the ASUS board only run 6000mhz (or above) ram at 5600mhz.
That was the reason for the questions above. Mainly regarding the speeds of ram, and the odd gen3/4 Amazon answer.

But to be honest its all making my head spin now. The last rig I bought and built, which seems like million years ago, was like cake compared to now.

I recon, due to your answers and the boards review ratings, the ASUS board is the way to go.

And as I can't find an answer (again from Amazon) on the hight of the "G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB Series (Intel XMP) 64GB 288-Pin SDRAM DDR5 6400." Which is a pity. As it has higher MHZ, and also a low CL32 compared to the FURY Beasts CL40. Does this make that musch of a difference. Again not sure.

But I should just go with the "Kingston FURY Beast Black XMP DDR5 64 GB 6000MT/s DDR5 CL40 DIMM"

I really appreciate the help. 👍🏻
You guys on Toms are the best.
 
Thank you Lafong
This link was a really great help.
I dont need RGB, the only issue I have is that every low profile around 32mm ram on Amazon with these speeds, 6000 or more, and a low CL comes from the States.
So the (not needed) RGB ones seem to be the only from the UK on there.
Its a "rock and hard place" situation ATM. 🤔

So I'm looking round other vendors now.
That or risk buying 44mm ram, and hoping I can work around it with the hight of the cooler to my box, which is tight, if I start lifting the front fan, or even replacing it with a 120mm.
And I cant test it as I haven't got the mobo yet, as I need to make sure the ram works with it.
I looked at this

But it got lousy ratings people saying it didn't work with their boards.

I really appreciate the link, and the help.
 
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Some of those Amazon reviews strongly imply the use of 4 RAM sticks, which is often more problematic than 2 sticks.

I don't know that I'd rely on Amazon reviews at all.........but of course it is certainly possible that any given RAM choice can be a problem with a specific board, particularly if that RAM is not on the board QVL.

Surprised to hear that you can't find the right Ripjaws in UK.
 
Daynhg said:
Thank you Lafong
This link was a really great help.
I dont need RGB, the only issue I have is that every low profile around 32mm ram on Amazon with these speeds, 6000 or more, and a low CL comes from the States.
So the (not needed) RGB ones seem to be the only from the UK on there.
Its a "rock and hard place" situation ATM. 🤔

So I'm looking round other vendors now.
That or risk buying 44mm ram, and hoping I can work around it with the hight of the cooler to my box, which is tight, if I start lifting the front fan, or even replacing it with a 120mm.
And I cant test it as I haven't got the mobo yet, as I need to make sure the ram works with it.
I looked at this

But it got lousy ratings people saying it didn't work with their boards.

I really appreciate the link, and the help.
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id recomend if you want zero compatibility issues with ram to look on the page of the motherboard

rog.asus.com

ROG STRIX Z790-E GAMING WIFI | Gaming motherboards｜ROG - Republic of Gamers｜ROG Global

The ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming WiFi supercharges builds with its robust 18-stage power solution, hyperspeed DDR5 memory, and next-gen PCIe 5.0 connectivity. It features five M.2 SSD slots with heatsinks, USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 support, WiFi 6E, AI Overclocking, AI Cooling II, AI Networking, Two-Way AI...
rog.asus.com rog.asus.com

ss means single sided memory

ds means double sided memory

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8NEmWmrLHI
 
Thanks Lafong.
Again.

Yes, its amystery, about all of teh low profile ram on Amazon, coming form outsid e of te UK, even the Primes stuff.
And your point on the ram and the board QVL, I think may be the question below,
Thank a lot for that vid beyondlogic

Wow like I wasn't up to me ears already in what ram to get. 😂

The YouTuber has good presentation skills, a bit like LTT.

Well, I'm stumped, seems my only way is to go for something lie this
Which ticks the CL, and MHZ boxes.
But is

Kingston FURY™ Renegade DDR5 Memory - Kingston Technology

Kingston FURY™ Renegade DDR5 offers speeds of 6000MT/s – 8800MT/s and kit capacities of up to 96GB. DDR5 features on-die ECC (ODECC) for improved stability at extreme speeds and dual 32-bit subchannels for increased efficiency.
www.kingston.com www.kingston.com

3.29mm high.

And as the Noctua NH-D15 only has a 32mm clearance for ram.
But is
noctua.at

NH-D15

Built on the basis of the legendary NH-D14 and carrying on its quest for ultimate quiet cooling performance, Noctua’s flagship model NH-D15 is an elite-class dual tower cooler for the highest demands. Its expanded heatpipe layout and two premium grade NF-A15 140mm fans with PWM support for...
noctua.at noctua.at
160mm high without the 140mm fan, and 165 with it.

If I swap the front 140mm fan for a 120mm, giving another 10mm at the base, and so 🤞 allowing for the clearance.
The case
lian-li.com

PC-O11D XL - E-ATX ,ATX Full To wer Gaming Computer Case

Bigger in every way a mighy powerful chassis. Modular design flexiblity for any configuration. Hot swappable drives.spacious for multiple and bigger components.Seamlessly supporting E-ATX motherboards.RGB lighting sync front panel addressable RGB. Tempered Glass on the Front, and Left Side...
lian-li.com lian-li.com
Seems to have GPU / Cooler clearance from the MB to glass panel, of (If I'm reading it right)
169mm or 172mm
Depending on what thir diagram means. So should (again 🤞 should be fine,) even if I have to lift the 120mm fan a little.

The only two questions now, And I can ask on a ram forum, unless either of you excellent people know,
Ad dont mind me asking here.
Are
1.
Will this ram (Kingston Fury Renegade DDR5 Silver XMP 64GB (2x32GB) 6000MT/s DDR5 CL32 DIMM)
work with the board. ASUS ROG Strix Z790-E
Enabling the XMP in the bios etc for the MB.
The chip is Intel Core i9-13900K

And 2.

This Ram is not plug and play will this be a problem for a none expert like myself.
Personally I never heard of "plug and play ram" before, and never had any problems with past ram.

Darn, I should have gone water.
But even LTT rates this cooler so I'm happy as long as it works.

Thanks again for any help guys.
 
I wouldn't expect that changing one of the fans on the Noctua to 120 mm would matter more than 2 degrees at most if you need to for clearance purposes.

Renegade is 39.2 mm tall.

As far as I know, Renegade most likely uses Hynix M chips.

I keep reading about how the 13th gen Intel memory controller is quirky when pushing for highest RAM performance and that the practical returns for pushing is minimal, although 6000 is not out at the leading edge. I'm not sure if CL32 is an issue.

Do you intend to go beyond XMP settings and start fiddling with sub-timings?

I'm not sure of the XMP settings available on that board.

Even if your Renegade choice is in fact on the motherboard QVL, you could still get a defective kit and have to return it.....so you'd have to be prepared for that regardless of whether "it will work".
 
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Daynhg said:
Thanks Lafong.
Again.

Yes, its amystery, about all of teh low profile ram on Amazon, coming form outsid e of te UK, even the Primes stuff.
And your point on the ram and the board QVL, I think may be the question below,
Thank a lot for that vid beyondlogic

Wow like I wasn't up to me ears already in what ram to get. 😂

The YouTuber has good presentation skills, a bit like LTT.

Well, I'm stumped, seems my only way is to go for something lie this
Which ticks the CL, and MHZ boxes.
But is

Kingston FURY™ Renegade DDR5 Memory - Kingston Technology

Kingston FURY™ Renegade DDR5 offers speeds of 6000MT/s – 8800MT/s and kit capacities of up to 96GB. DDR5 features on-die ECC (ODECC) for improved stability at extreme speeds and dual 32-bit subchannels for increased efficiency.
www.kingston.com www.kingston.com

3.29mm high.

And as the Noctua NH-D15 only has a 32mm clearance for ram.
But is
noctua.at

NH-D15

Built on the basis of the legendary NH-D14 and carrying on its quest for ultimate quiet cooling performance, Noctua’s flagship model NH-D15 is an elite-class dual tower cooler for the highest demands. Its expanded heatpipe layout and two premium grade NF-A15 140mm fans with PWM support for...
noctua.at noctua.at
160mm high without the 140mm fan, and 165 with it.

If I swap the front 140mm fan for a 120mm, giving another 10mm at the base, and so 🤞 allowing for the clearance.
The case
lian-li.com

PC-O11D XL - E-ATX ,ATX Full To wer Gaming Computer Case

Bigger in every way a mighy powerful chassis. Modular design flexiblity for any configuration. Hot swappable drives.spacious for multiple and bigger components.Seamlessly supporting E-ATX motherboards.RGB lighting sync front panel addressable RGB. Tempered Glass on the Front, and Left Side...
lian-li.com lian-li.com
Seems to have GPU / Cooler clearance from the MB to glass panel, of (If I'm reading it right)
169mm or 172mm
Depending on what thir diagram means. So should (again 🤞 should be fine,) even if I have to lift the 120mm fan a little.

The only two questions now, And I can ask on a ram forum, unless either of you excellent people know,
Ad dont mind me asking here.
Are
1.
Will this ram (Kingston Fury Renegade DDR5 Silver XMP 64GB (2x32GB) 6000MT/s DDR5 CL32 DIMM)
work with the board. ASUS ROG Strix Z790-E
Enabling the XMP in the bios etc for the MB.
The chip is Intel Core i9-13900K

And 2.

This Ram is not plug and play will this be a problem for a none expert like myself.
Personally I never heard of "plug and play ram" before, and never had any problems with past ram.

Darn, I should have gone water.
But even LTT rates this cooler so I'm happy as long as it works.

Thanks again for any help guys.
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169mm cooler with the glass side panel
or 172 with the metal side panel

the noctua is 165 tall so were talking extremely close it should be fine

if you tell me which asus 4080 i can see if its compatible

ram



the other ram is to tall.

this 33mm kit should do ok

keep in mind it will lose 1mm in height when its slotted in the motherboard into the motherboard

and ram is a tricky thing some motherboards dont play well with certain ram and theres not really a clear reason sometimes why.
 
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Thank you again Lafong

Another great post.

I also read, and was told about "13th gen Intel memory controller is quirky when pushing for highest RAM performance"

And that i9-13900k can get HOT! But hopefully the cooler should be enough, the case is also pretty open.

To be honest if it runs at 6000mhz ill be happy.
I read a few boards saying they would only run at 5600.

I would be using XMP, as long as it works.
After reading your thoughts on "does that board have XMP," I went and had a look at the Amazon page, and a couple of the reviews mention it, and say it runs fine.

One person who has a ROG Strix Z790-E (the board I have now bought) writes.
"More than enough for my i7 13700 K. It also gives me the room to upgrade to a 14th generation i9 if I ever need the extra bit of performance. XMP memory run stable and the bios is fine, unlike their AMD versions."

I'm not sure about what he said "the 14th gen CPU's working on this board," as well as intel (from even my limited knowledge) changing them from time to time.
Who knows if 14th gen will be completely different, now AI is becoming a thing, but "wadda I know."

But the guys on there who have the boards (another has a Z590-E and also says XMP works.
So I would enable it.... if it has it.

I also just now, did a Google "does ROG Strix Z790-E have xmp?"
And the answer at the top of the Google page says.
"For expansion, it comes with 1 x PCIe 5.0 x16 slot, 2 x PCIe 4.0 x16 slots (support x4 mode), and 1 x PCIe 3.0 x1 slot. It also supports XMP profiles for DDR5 ram with speeds of up to DDR5-7800 OC"
And then points to a site called "Funky Kit."
So it looks like it does. 🤞

But as to tweaking any more trying for even faster speeds.... Nooo. :) Ill be happy with whatever I can get, its going to be like a rocket compared to existing rig.

But I got that tired of going round and round, I just went with this board, and the ram linked below.
Fingers crossed it all works when the other parts arrive.

But now you have me wondering about XMP. 🤔🤨😯😂 <- the range of emotions on this whole thing.

Thank you as well beyondlogic.
I really appreciate the feedback.

After writing the last post. I went all through it again, and happily, I hope... Purchased yesterday the below Ram.


Its coming from the States, and not Prime UK, which is a pity. But its Amazon US. So not a 3rd party seller, in case its wonky.

But it happens to be the exact RAM you linked. I wanted 64gb, but as you showed, on Prime UK, (well Prime EU) they only did 32GB.

But I am pleased you linked the same RAM I went for, and that I went for low profile, so no changing fans, and should be enough clearance. Good call on that.

Oh, and this is the GPU I bought.

Again, hoping it works, they are both ASUS, so it should be a good match.
I was also told that case, fits a 4080 no problem, is a huge case.
Mind you the card is the size of a sofa.

Im hoping this fits,

Thanks again guys,
The help really is appreciated.
 
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As a quick follow up, thinking (cough worrying) about XMP... lol.

That Funk Kit site which was at the top of the Google search, gives it the following scores, and states Full XMP. 🤞🤞🤞

Product Description : Slash the 6GHz barrier in style with the Strix Z790-E. Translucent shrouds outline its RGB ignition panel, alluding to its ability to jump into lightspeed under the guidance of AI Overclocking and a hyper-reactive VRM. DDR5 enhancements and an assortment of PCIe 5.0 options ramp up velocity even further, and setup is a breeze thanks to its unique Q-Design feature set.

  • Features

    10

    Performance

    10
    Connectivity

    10

    Compatibility

    9

    Price

    8

  • The Goods​

    • Enthusiast-grade performance
    • Intel Z790 chipset
    • Supports Intel 13th Gen and 12th Gen Core processor
    • Supports PCIE 5.0 x16
    • PCIE 5.0 Gen5x4 slot for SSD
    • Supports up to DDR5-7800+ (O.C.)
    • Full XMP support
    • Packed with loads of features
    • Intel 2.5G LAN
    • WiFi 6E support

    • The Bads
    • Expensive
  • 9.4
Average Score


And then I did a YouTube search on the board, and it looks pretty good from all of the vids.

And this guy.

Paul's Hardware
1.45M subscribers
"How To Build a $3000-$5000 High-End Gaming PC"
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DXovN4Bn5o&ab_channel=Paul%27sHardware


Has the exact same board / CPU / WD M.2, and apart from he's running a 3090 (Which I didn't buy for the same reason as not going water cooling. The PC is on pretty much all day, so with energy prices over here, the running costs. I read the 3090 was considerably more to run, so went 3080.
Its the same'ish card.

So all that looks promising.
Again I'm hoping.
 
The G Skill Ripjaw S5 is probably what I'd buy myself if I was in the market for RAM today.

Make a post when you get up and running to advise of any RAM issues you may encounter.

Yeah, I suppose any Intel board will have XMP settings, but the specific choices can vary...I read a few hours ago about some current board that was said to have only a single XMP choice.

The upcoming Raptor Lake refresh will use the 1700 socket, but I think I read that the Intel CPUs beyond that will be on a new socket....1800 and something if I recall. Not a factor unless you are the type who likes to swap CPUs in between board changes rather than change both board and CPU every few years.
 
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Thanks Lafong
Its good to hear you also say about the RAM ordered.
Ill see how it goes, and yes any problems I will leave feedback. 👍

I asked the question about XMP on Amazon, and the seller came back with "Yes," as well as another user who said "It does indeed!"

And as for swapping chips, it will a long time until that happens, but yes it would be board, and chip by that time.

I really appreciate all the help. 💯
 
Daynhg said:
Thank you again Lafong

Another great post.

I also read, and was told about "13th gen Intel memory controller is quirky when pushing for highest RAM performance"

And that i9-13900k can get HOT! But hopefully the cooler should be enough, the case is also pretty open.

To be honest if it runs at 6000mhz ill be happy.
I read a few boards saying they would only run at 5600.

I would be using XMP, as long as it works.
After reading your thoughts on "does that board have XMP," I went and had a look at the Amazon page, and a couple of the reviews mention it, and say it runs fine.

One person who has a ROG Strix Z790-E (the board I have now bought) writes.
"More than enough for my i7 13700 K. It also gives me the room to upgrade to a 14th generation i9 if I ever need the extra bit of performance. XMP memory run stable and the bios is fine, unlike their AMD versions."

I'm not sure about what he said "the 14th gen CPU's working on this board," as well as intel (from even my limited knowledge) changing them from time to time.
Who knows if 14th gen will be completely different, now AI is becoming a thing, but "wadda I know."

But the guys on there who have the boards (another has a Z590-E and also says XMP works.
So I would enable it.... if it has it.

I also just now, did a Google "does ROG Strix Z790-E have xmp?"
And the answer at the top of the Google page says.
"For expansion, it comes with 1 x PCIe 5.0 x16 slot, 2 x PCIe 4.0 x16 slots (support x4 mode), and 1 x PCIe 3.0 x1 slot. It also supports XMP profiles for DDR5 ram with speeds of up to DDR5-7800 OC"
And then points to a site called "Funky Kit."
So it looks like it does. 🤞

But as to tweaking any more trying for even faster speeds.... Nooo. :) Ill be happy with whatever I can get, its going to be like a rocket compared to existing rig.

But I got that tired of going round and round, I just went with this board, and the ram linked below.
Fingers crossed it all works when the other parts arrive.

But now you have me wondering about XMP. 🤔🤨😯😂 <- the range of emotions on this whole thing.

Thank you as well beyondlogic.
I really appreciate the feedback.

After writing the last post. I went all through it again, and happily, I hope... Purchased yesterday the below Ram.


Its coming from the States, and not Prime UK, which is a pity. But its Amazon US. So not a 3rd party seller, in case its wonky.

But it happens to be the exact RAM you linked. I wanted 64gb, but as you showed, on Prime UK, (well Prime EU) they only did 32GB.

But I am pleased you linked the same RAM I went for, and that I went for low profile, so no changing fans, and should be enough clearance. Good call on that.

Oh, and this is the GPU I bought.

Again, hoping it works, they are both ASUS, so it should be a good match.
I was also told that case, fits a 4080 no problem, is a huge case.
Mind you the card is the size of a sofa.

Im hoping this fits,

Thanks again guys,
The help really is appreciated.
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gpu seems fine don't think there will be any clearance issues just be careful of the power pin cable of the new nvidia cards are a pain in the ass to seat many people have damaged them by not inserting them properly fully that companys are making custom cables so you can tell when its seated properly ironicly msi have which is the company i have no love for but is a smart idea all the same
 
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Thanks for the reassurance on the card beyondlogic.
It is really appreciated.

I have everything except the RAM now, as its coming from the States.

And also good call on the power pin cable.
This proved to be a bit of a pain to me (as well.) in adifferent way.
As when I was looking into PSU,s I was going to go with a 1000s platinum Corsair. But I read. (not sure if its true) that some tick. And its quite loud.

So in the end, after another gauntlet of researching.
I went with this one.

It arrived in just the Be Quite box, and a ripped plastic bag. The box was pre-opened, and the back of it was all ragged. So I sent it back. And reordered it from Amazon direct it cost another 30 quid, but its in great shape.

However the wiring/ports are a tad odd.
So after more research I bought this.

Which I hope will both solve the odd wiring/ports on this PSU for 4000 cards.
As well as now the issue you mentioned, that I wasn't aware of, people damaging them.

Here's hoping, it all fits into place.

Y'know I'm really looking forward to building this rig.
So not. 😂

Thanks again BL for the help on the clearance, it is really appreciated.
As is both of you guys.
👍
 
Daynhg said:
Thanks for the reassurance on the card beyondlogic.
It is really appreciated.

I have everything except the RAM now, as its coming from the States.

And also good call on the power pin cable.
This proved to be a bit of a pain to me (as well.) in adifferent way.
As when I was looking into PSU,s I was going to go with a 1000s platinum Corsair. But I read. (not sure if its true) that some tick. And its quite loud.

So in the end, after another gauntlet of researching.
I went with this one.

It arrived in just the Be Quite box, and a ripped plastic bag. The box was pre-opened, and the back of it was all ragged. So I sent it back. And reordered it from Amazon direct it cost another 30 quid, but its in great shape.

However the wiring/ports are a tad odd.
So after more research I bought this.

Which I hope will both solve the odd wiring/ports on this PSU for 4000 cards.
As well as now the issue you mentioned, that I wasn't aware of, people damaging them.

Here's hoping, it all fits into place.

Y'know I'm really looking forward to building this rig.
So not. 😂

Thanks again BL for the help on the clearance, it is really appreciated.
As is both of you guys.
👍
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the issue is the 12 pin new standard nvidia is forcing which provides more power isnt exactly bomb proof the issue is the cable isnt seating properly and makes bad contact and starts to melt the actual connector. you can find reports on this on youtube.


be quiet power supplys are fine

ive had a few odd ones

one died on me just one day it didnt turn on

the other developed a fan tick after a year. as be quiet tend to use rifling bearing design least the ones i have are.
for more info on fan types you can check the wiki link. most these days are fluid bearing.
en.wikipedia.org

Computer fan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

the only power supply i havent had issue with currently is
seasonic

brands i trust are
seasonic ( no issues)
thermal take (tough series or higher)
be quiet ( 1 dead/1 bad fan but consider a bad batch )
corsair high end models not the cx versions ( there crap went threw 3 of those and found some elite capacitors which are cheap rubbish)
cougar/and coolermaster are what i call very entry level.

( completely avoids)
CIT ( not stable sparks)
gigabyte ( explodes)


im sure your rig will run fine some tips

install the cpu and cooler first before putting it in the pc case.

invest in a longer screw driver ( as once the cpu cooler is installed the top screw holes in the motherboard are a royal pain to reach with a regular screw driver the handle can get in the way of the cooler.

other thing optional ( its rare this happens but it has happened that a screw on the motherboard shorted my board.
so i use nylon washers ( have done for years).
this kit i use comes with extra bits incase you lose one or have a standoff thats striped etc
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07MXLMRM5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

in the event that the case stand off that you install isnt turning ( you should be able to install them with your fingers in the correct holes in the case to mount the motherboard however if one gets stuck dont panic and use a pair of plyers and gently grip it and turn it to tighten them. ( ive had a few issues with some cases where the stand off wouldnt turn.
 
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Superb post BL.
Thank you!

Which I will answer later when I have time to sit down.

Just for now though, I ordered that set of screws and accessories. The washers aren't nylon I don't think. Are they? It says red fibre paper.
But am guessing they are what you meant to use.

I also ordered this. I wasn't sure as its magnetic head, but read that its no problem, In fact some sites recommended a mag head.
In the past I have just used a normal screw driver.

Really appreciate the help.
 
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Superb post BL.
Thank you!

Which I will answer later when I have time to sit down.

Just for now though, I ordered that set of screws and accessories. The washers aren't nylon I don't think. Are they? It says red fibre paper.
But am guessing they are what you meant to use.

I also ordered this. I wasn't sure as its magnetic head, but read that its no problem, In fact some sites recommended a mag head.
In the past I have just used a normal screw driver.

Really appreciate the help.
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yeah the fibre washers help there non conductive and help prevent overtightening of the board stand offs.

the extra accessories are also helpful the extra case screws and stand offs. and fan screws.

that screwdriver looks fine the magnetic head is fine just be careful with it.

one last thing i just thought of

to the advice above

install cpu and heatsink as stated above
but also the ram
and any nvme drives your using do that too
and the 2 cables 4+4 pin and 8 pin for the cpu ( not to be confused with 8 pin pcie connectors)
and the 24 pin

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manual
page 35
700mm cables are the cpu cables

once installed the route those cables threw the holes below before you screw down the motherboard.

cable route the cpu threw the top hole above motherboard in the case.
and cable route the 24 pin threw the right hand side cable hole.


the reasons the 24 pin is extreme pain in the ass to seat properly and the 4 pin sometimes dislodges from the 20 pin as its only held on by a tiny clip of plastic this is a extreme pain to do inside a case.

also doing research on your board the 2 8 pin headers for your cpu are hidden at the top of the motherboard left hand side behind 2 beefy heatsinks getting your fingers in that corner would be a pain once the board is installed.
 
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I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your last two posts. Seriously BL
Thank You.👍

I have only built 2 PCs in the last 8 years, and as much as I cannot wait to get a decent PC again, for Blender / VR, as well as some of the games I have in Steam that this system, as good as it "still," struggles with.

I really wasn't looking forward to "the build."
I was going to watch a few refresher YT vids, and then I know Ill muddle through it.

But your help in the last post, and the one before have been invaluable. a huge kudos.

That screw set you recommended, arrived today, looks great. And the screwdriver is so long its like a pool cue.
But thats a good thing.

I will feed back once have blown the thing into next Tuesday. Or got it to run. <-- This s the prefeed option.
JK.

But I will follow everything you said about pre fitting the parts before putting them into the case, the washers, and the cabling.

Awesome help.
Thank you so much. 🥇
 
Daynhg said:
I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your last two posts. Seriously BL
Thank You.👍

I have only built 2 PCs in the last 8 years, and as much as I cannot wait to get a decent PC again, for Blender / VR, as well as some of the games I have in Steam that this system, as good as it "still," struggles with.

I really wasn't looking forward to "the build."
I was going to watch a few refresher YT vids, and then I know Ill muddle through it.

But your help in the last post, and the one before have been invaluable. a huge kudos.

That screw set you recommended, arrived today, looks great. And the screwdriver is so long its like a pool cue.
But thats a good thing.

I will feed back once have blown the thing into next Tuesday. Or got it to run. <-- This s the prefeed option.
JK.

But I will follow everything you said about pre fitting the parts before putting them into the case, the washers, and the cabling.

Awesome help.
Thank you so much. 🥇
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no problem good luck i hope its a roaring success story feel free to drop a message on here or click my user and fire a question to my inbox will be off toms till tuesday.


also the motherboard in the box will have a foam cushion it sits on i recomend keeping it on that as you seat the ram and cables as it will prevent any of the pins on the underside of the board from getting damaged. and help with any pressure you may have to insert when slotting in the ram
 
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