You're sounding like a Walmart shopper at a Black Friday sales counter. OF COURSE things will go out-of-stock on day one, then come back in stock as warehouse quantities are getting replenished. The difference is on Black Friday's sales floor qty's are general all that you get and here there IS a warehouse and a pipeline shoveling more processors into it all the time.I get stressed way too easily. ...
see above post's edit for my latest worry. lol.You're sounding like a Walmart shopper at a Black Friday sales counter. OF COURSE things will go out-of-stock on day one, then come back in stock as warehouse quantities are getting replenished. The difference is on Black Friday's sales floor qty's are general all that you get and here there IS a warehouse and a pipeline shoveling more processors into it all the time.
Reviews are coming in about where I expected. I never expected R3K to take the IPC crown just what seems to have happened: Intel's advantage has been reduced to a point where it doesn't matter except in benchmarks.
And even then I really do keep in mind that games are overwhelmingly coded to take prohibitive advantage from Intel's architecture. That's what Intel meant by saying their software group is one of their pillars of excellence: as long as they can continue "assisting" the game and gaming engine developers, Intel's products will also continue to lead in gaming benchmarks.
But in productivity/content creation useages: AMD has taken the crown back. I think we have to wait and see if the competition can pivot their product stack to put competitive processors (in both performance and price) against the R3K stack like they did with R1K. But in the mean time, it looks bad for Intel.
How does the microcenter web store make sales if they don't ship? I've never tried to buy from them, just the local B&M store....
i wish microcenter would ship...
They ship some items and not others. For cpus and a lot of mobos they will only let you order for pickup in store. So since there is not one anywhere near me, I can't get many parts. I did buy a ssd through them.... and they don't charge me tax. But these great combo deals I can't get.How does the microcenter web store make sales if they don't ship? I've never tried to buy from them, just the local B&M store.
Do they ship only to a local store for pickup there? I think I understand (now) why some people take Microcenter vaca's. An overnight trip to the nearest one, buying a bunch of stuff for themselves and friends in the process usually.
From everything I've heard and experienced with my 1700, the stock cooler is perfectly sufficient for stock performance of Ryzen processors. It's even adequate for mild overclocking... and even pushing it a little bit if you don't mind the noise as it picks up fan speed.....
Just curious... IF I DO get an aftermarket cooer, what is a good enough one?
Have you checked out this from MSI?...
Btw, surprisingly, my mobo already shipped... TWO WEEKS before it was supposed to, so I am going to have it before the cpu now.
Thanks. I hadn't read it, but had noticed comments here and there mentioning something about msi using a beta. This is still one big headache. And now I see multiple articles stating that the stock cooler is plenty good enough for the 3900x if you don't do much of an overclock, but one review says it's plenty quiet enough and I saw someone mentioning a cooler for 2xxx as being too loud.... and I assume these are the same coolers. Would suck if it's loud when I went to all this trouble getting ssds and not using hdds to cut down on noise, as well as put my case up for sale and buying a soundproofed one.Have you checked out this from MSI?
A full-release BIOS hasn't shown up for several of MSI's B450 boards... including the Pro Carbon AC. You have to use a beta in the interim. Hopefully they release it by the time your kit is fully assembled.
Hi, I'm considering to get 3700x but RAM and mobo is the issue. I was considering asus C7H, but it's still too expensive. I heard also 32GB(2x16GB) may have some issues, with dual rank. So What mobo do you suggest for around ~200€ with flashback and PBO support and little overclock for 3700x, that will also support future CPUs maybe? And what for RAM, is single rank must....I've been looking for Ripjaws V 2x16GB 3200 CL16 kit, it's dual rank.
I'm not buying new x570, that's why i'm asking x470 or other ~200€ daisy chain mobo + 3700x + 32GB 3200Mhz CL16 combo. There is many threads, like this https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/788240-buying-ryzen-confused-about-ram-read-here/ I know it's old, but still...Why would there be issues with 32gb 2x 16gig sticks? All the 3000 CPUs are dual channel. The only Mobo that uses topology and not Daisy chain pathing for memory is ASRock. Topology runs better with 4 sticks of ram but it really shouldn't matter much with these new mobos and CPUs either way.
that doesn't ay anything about dual rank. It says it's an issue due to the newest bios not there yet.
Flash-Back feature works even with board fully populated. It's benefit extends beyond the initial flash-upload of a supporting BIOS for your CPU: it's also a really nice insurance policy should any BIOS update in the future get corrupted....
Also, I wonder if you HAVE TO do the flash updating with no cpu, gpu, etc... connected? I'd rather install everything then press the button, where ...
yeah dumb that they didn't have a non-beta ready, unless it was something on amd's end, ie waiting too late to give msi some needed info or cpu to test or something.LOL... looks like you're right re: 3900X chips! Even my Microcenter -- in a region filled with Intel fan-boys and a sales staff hard-lock biased in favor Intel's product line, mind you -- is down to only 2 left in initial stock!
The next couple weeks will be telling, though, if demand stays up there as re-stocks come through.
I'm concerned MSI's gonna kill themselves with crap beta BIOS' on their X470 and B450 boards. I'd wait until a released one is available. And they better be quick about that too.
That is a really good question...and there's terribly little speculation from the on-line 'press' about it too. So I'm free to speculate!.... Also, what's up with AMD not sending out any 3800x ones?
Someone said Newegg had the 3800x today, but who knows... by the time I saw it, it said OOS, so not sure if they really had it in or he just meant they had it listed.That is a really good question...and there's terribly little speculation from the on-line 'press' about it too. So I'm free to speculate!
I think back to comments about the Rome launch and how this whole chiplet architecture is a way for AMD to harvest the best of the best die while steering lower-binned die to lower chips in their product stack.
I think maybe the 3800x requires an 8-core die that is nearly perfect and those are, right now, going into Rome product for that huge exa-scale super computer contract they have. Even the 12-core 3900X gets along with two chiplet that have a couple cores disabled in each. The 3950X, in contrast, requires two perfect 8 core die so that explains why it's delayed till September for launch.
The 3600 and 3600X, in contrast, with 2 disable core and (3600) lesser quality silicon can be shipped like popcorn. I hope.
I'm sure AMD had a lot to say to their retail channel about staying at or below MSRP. Now e-bay (re)-sales will be a different matter, when they come up. If they come up.
I don't need any buyers' reviews on Newegg or any other store. Even die hard Intel fan boys like Linus (Linus Tech Tips) are pretty confident the 3900X is the desktop king. You can spend more on a 9900K to get a small, inappreciable, benefit in some games, but the 3900X just destroys it in almost any real-world productivity or content creation app. And those it doesn't it just beats it a bunch.Someone said Newegg had the 3800x today, but who knows... by the time I saw it, it said OOS, so not sure if they really had it in or he just meant they had it listed.
Well, the 2 reviews onn Newegg for the 3900x are promising, saying it's a big difference even between 2799(x) and 3900x, but they aren't verified purchasers.
I wonder how much I would notice slower web browsing compared with intel? I only have a very few days to decide what tio do on the cpu because b&h can charge restockikng so if they ship it I am not sending it back (unless a crazy deal comes around for like 20% off).
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