Motherboards Standards - Memory

[ManDown42]

I hesitate to ask (which means I going to).... With all the different types of memory and its cost (Flash, DDR, GDDR, SSD, SD) being so cheap why don't motherboards manufacture integrate memory into their boards? Do away with the DIMM slots altogether and build the memory into the motherboard based on the boards requirement & capacity. It seems to me the memory could be optimized (OC) from the factory. While it is true that memory chips fail so do CPU, HHD, PSU, GPU, Motherboards,... No doubt it would raise the cost of the motherboards. Although you would think it should be less then the cost of the memory and motherboard purchased separately.

Just Asking, what do you think?

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[carlo_bigtunes]

1. more often defective memory chips, 1 chip lead to failure of the system is damaged and can not be replaced alone
2. need extra space to put all the memory chips
3. motherboard manufacturers have to cooperate with the chip maker, be flexible in the use of chip

saya kira mereka telah memperhitungkan kelebihan dan kekurangannya, dan solusi terbaik memang menggunakan memory terpisah

 

[Eli Winston]

it is a good concept but in practice it won't work because you can't put more ram in it or put better ram. also if the ram is defective you have to replace the whole mother bored witch deepening on the company it could cast you a lot

 

[ManDown42]

1. more often defective memory chips, 1 chip lead to failure of the system is damaged and can not be replaced alone
2. need extra space to put all the memory chips
3. motherboard manufacturers have to cooperate with the chip maker, be flexible in the use of chip

(1) The way I read (Related Sites😉 in my OP the CPU or Disk Drive are more likely to fail first.
(2) Removing the DIMM slots on the motherboard the motherboard would free up the space. I am pretty sure Memory can be purchased from 2 to 64GB ICs. Types of Memory
(3) Motherboard manufacturers do interface with chip manufacturers. Motherboard also have RAM an ROM ICs in them now. As stated in my OP intergrate "memory into the motherboard based on the boards requirement & capacity" of the manufacturers the "memory could be optimized (OC) from the factory"


Regards,
ManDown

 

[ManDown42]

it is a good concept but in practice it won't work because you can't put more ram in it or put better ram. also if the ram is defective you have to replace the whole mother bored witch deepening on the company it could cast you a lot

Thank you for your response,

If the motherboards manufacture and memory suppliers coordinate on their designs. Why they can not coordinate on their designs and "build the memory into the motherboard based on the boards requirement & capacity and "optimized (OC) from the factory puzzles me?

Your arguments are valid. I would hope motherboards and memory designers chime in.

 

[Fewshin]

Memory built into the board???!!! 1. That would be really expensive, lets say you want to game. You are on a budget. You can't get all the ram at once. But you want to max it out at 128 gb. Then what. 2. Lets say you ESD (Electro Static Discharge) the ram. Then what. You live on with a shitty board. 3. What if you want error correcting ram. Then what? The reason slots exist are for customization. It is more convenient for everyone, the manufacturers and you.

 

[ManDown42]

Fewshin,
Thanks for the great feedback
Sorry I don't buy it. Seems like if you had a ESD bad enough to effect the ram it would burn the MB as well. I'm pretty sure there are not a consumer game that will use 128GB. I do get what you are saying but 8GB is about all you need for most any game out right now. I am not saying there will never come a day. I remember "Who will ever need more then then 8K of ram?". (a time before hard drives) ECC memory is primarily used for servers or high end hardware configurations. Non-ECC is more commonly used PC based applications. As stated in my OP manufactures can optimize the memory and the board at the factory. I have been using the same 64 & 32GB flash memory for a few years now and it is a buck or so a GB. Most Commercial off-the-shelf (COTS) (64bit) Windows desktops can access that much memory. I don't know if UNIX has the 32vs64bit issue. For "System Memory" you must also consider system RAM, graphics RAM, PCI memory range, ACPI. The MB BIOS set the range limit for most of these. I wander if COTS software can access memory (DMA) resisters that high.

Just Saying,

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[Fewshin]

Sorry I don't buy it. Seems like if you had a ESD bad enough to effect the ram it would burn the MB as well. I'm pretty there is not a consumer game that will use 128GB. I do get what you are saying but 8GB is about all you need for most any game out right now. I am not saying there will never come a day. I remember "Who will ever need more then then 8K of ram?". (a time before hard drives) ECC memory is primarily used for servers or high end hardware configurations. Non-ECC is more commonly used PC based applications. As stated in my OP manufactures can optimize the memory and the board at the factory. I have been using the same 64 & 32GB flash memory for a few years now and it is a buck or so a GB.

Just Saying.

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Well, honestly I like having a large amount of ram. I do develop and game so I need large amounts of ram. Also I use Non-ECC. I had to go out of my way to get 8 16 gb sticks of ram.