Motion blur/ghosting problems with new 27" 1080p

[bogus666]

Hello, I have an issue with motion blurring on this Acer monitor I just purchased.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009590

I upgraded from a 22" Acer LCD and had no problems with it at all. But when I plugged up the new monitor (which I could only do with DVI because HDMI didn't work properly for some reason) and booted up FIFA 14, I noticed when playing that the players sometimes have this weird ghost image that shadows them when they are moving while in a match. I haven't really noticed on any other games but I haven't really tested it on any other games either. I'm thinking of returning the monitor and justt need some advice on what 27" monitor to get for gaming. What specs should I look for to avoid this problem?

 

[Rayven2]

It might not be a monitor issue, what kind of graphics card do you have?

As for searching for a new monitor I found this guide very helpful - http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1879700/buy-monitor-start.html

 

[bogus666]

Thank you, I was actually just reading over that thread. Probably should of looked at that first

I don't think it is a video card issue which is why I didn't post it, but I have a HIS HD 6950 2GB 256-Bit GDDR5 card, it should do well enough to run 1080p on that monitor. I'm thinking it may be an interface issue. I have only a DVI sinlgle link cable plugged into it. I thought HDMI would work but it wouldn't display properly so that's why I'm using DVI. I do have current AMD drivers installed as well.

 

[bogus666]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x240ame_fifa-14-motion-blur-problem_videogames

OK so I uploaded a video of the problem. You can see when the ball is cleared down the field, some of the players have a blur behind them as the screen moves. You may have to switch to full screen to see it. I'm really stumped on what could cause this. Is it the dvi cable? Is it the monitor? I'm almost positive it's not the GPU as this did not occur on my 22" with 1680x1050 resolution. Any thoughts would be of help, thank you.

 

[Rayven2]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x240ame_fifa-14-motion-blur-problem_videogames

OK so I uploaded a video of the problem. You can see when the ball is cleared down the field, some of the players have a blur behind them as the screen moves. You may have to switch to full screen to see it. I'm really stumped on what could cause this. Is it the dvi cable? Is it the monitor? I'm almost positive it's not the GPU as this did not occur on my 22" with 1680x1050 resolution. Any thoughts would be of help, thank you.

I doubt it's the graphics card either, I'm not too sure to be honest since it's almost non visible... I figured it was much worse. Hopefully it is something as simple as a new cable, do you have one you can borrow to test it out?
Other then that I'm puzzled as well, someone else might know hopefully...

 

[bogus666]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x240ame_fifa-14-motion-blur-problem_videogames

OK so I uploaded a video of the problem. You can see when the ball is cleared down the field, some of the players have a blur behind them as the screen moves. You may have to switch to full screen to see it. I'm really stumped on what could cause this. Is it the dvi cable? Is it the monitor? I'm almost positive it's not the GPU as this did not occur on my 22" with 1680x1050 resolution. Any thoughts would be of help, thank you.

I doubt it's the graphics card either, I'm not too sure to be honest since it's almost non visible... I figured it was much worse. Hopefully it is something as simple as a new cable, do you have one you can borrow to test it out?
Other then that I'm puzzled as well, someone else might know hopefully...

Yeah I realize now it is pretty hard to tell on that video. It is very noticeable in game on the 27" monitor. Fortunately I still have my other 22" monitor set up as a slave so I've been playing on that and it looks fine. I don't have a dual link cable on hand so I will have to get one before I test it. I'm not sure if that will even work since single link should play 1080p fine. Once I have a dual link, I will post the results.

Googling this problem seems futile as well. I have found others with similar issues , but none have been resolved.

 

[Rayven2]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x240ame_fifa-14-motion-blur-problem_videogames

OK so I uploaded a video of the problem. You can see when the ball is cleared down the field, some of the players have a blur behind them as the screen moves. You may have to switch to full screen to see it. I'm really stumped on what could cause this. Is it the dvi cable? Is it the monitor? I'm almost positive it's not the GPU as this did not occur on my 22" with 1680x1050 resolution. Any thoughts would be of help, thank you.

I doubt it's the graphics card either, I'm not too sure to be honest since it's almost non visible... I figured it was much worse. Hopefully it is something as simple as a new cable, do you have one you can borrow to test it out?
Other then that I'm puzzled as well, someone else might know hopefully...

Yeah I realize now it is pretty hard to tell on that video. It is very noticeable in game on the 27" monitor. Fortunately I still have my other 22" monitor set up as a slave so I've been playing on that and it looks fine. I don't have a dual link cable on hand so I will have to get one before I test it. I'm not sure if that will even work since single link should play 1080p fine. Once I have a dual link, I will post the results.

Googling this problem seems futile as well. I have found others with similar issues , but none have been resolved.

As long as you can still play, maybe someone will get to you on here. If not perhaps hit up a IT store and see what they have to say. Sometimes they mind giving advice without charging.

 

[bogus666]

I was able to get a dvi dual link cable from work, but it did not make a difference after swapping it out. The players still blur when the camera is in fast motion. I guess my next step is to contact Acer's support team to see if this is an issue with their monitor. Any other thoughts or ideas would be appreciated. And thank you Rayven2, maybe one day I can buy you a beer

 

[bluejayek]

I don't know about that particular monitor, but it is an IPS monitor, and IPS monitors have slower response rates and hence more motion blur then TN panels, which you may have upgraded from. Also, I don't think that video you uploaded is particularly helpful as it looks like you did a screen capture video... If it is an issue with the monitor that won't show us anything as we see the video as it displays on our monitor! You'd have to record it with a video camera or something.

 

[Rayven2]

I was able to get a dvi dual link cable from work, but it did not make a difference after swapping it out. The players still blur when the camera is in fast motion. I guess my next step is to contact Acer's support team to see if this is an issue with their monitor. Any other thoughts or ideas would be appreciated. And thank you Rayven2, maybe one day I can buy you a beer

Not a problem at all mate, if I get any other ideas I'll let you know. Feel free to PM me if you happen to come across a solution. Hopefully you get one here from someone else, if not don't forget to pick best solution

 

[bogus666]

I don't know about that particular monitor, but it is an IPS monitor, and IPS monitors have slower response rates and hence more motion blur then TN panels, which you may have upgraded from. Also, I don't think that video you uploaded is particularly helpful as it looks like you did a screen capture video... If it is an issue with the monitor that won't show us anything as we see the video as it displays on our monitor! You'd have to record it with a video camera or something.

I see, that makes a lot of sense about the recording! It's honestly not super noticeable in game either, but noticeable enough for me. And it's not unplayable. It's just sucks that it looks better on my older 22" LCD, ahaha. I see what you're saying about the panel type, I think that is pretty weird because it seems that IPS is the standard for most 1080p monitor. That or TN panels are fading out. This is the older monitor I have:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009145

I don't see anything about what panel type it is other than WSXGA+, which has to do with the resolution. I think I am going to send the monitor back. Acer's support forum has been unhelpful so far. Any recommendations for a 27" monitor? I can start a new thread if need be.

 

[bogus666]

I was able to get a dvi dual link cable from work, but it did not make a difference after swapping it out. The players still blur when the camera is in fast motion. I guess my next step is to contact Acer's support team to see if this is an issue with their monitor. Any other thoughts or ideas would be appreciated. And thank you Rayven2, maybe one day I can buy you a beer

Not a problem at all mate, if I get any other ideas I'll let you know. Feel free to PM me if you happen to come across a solution. Hopefully you get one here from someone else, if not don't forget to pick best solution

Definitely. I think the solution may be getting a different monitor, haha.

 

[Rayven2]

I was able to get a dvi dual link cable from work, but it did not make a difference after swapping it out. The players still blur when the camera is in fast motion. I guess my next step is to contact Acer's support team to see if this is an issue with their monitor. Any other thoughts or ideas would be appreciated. And thank you Rayven2, maybe one day I can buy you a beer

Not a problem at all mate, if I get any other ideas I'll let you know. Feel free to PM me if you happen to come across a solution. Hopefully you get one here from someone else, if not don't forget to pick best solution

Definitely. I think the solution may be getting a different monitor, haha.

Lol maybe so, I'm sure you'll be able to sell it quite easily. I myself am shopping for a monitor. 24 inch however, not planning on going that big.

 

[bogus666]

I was able to get a dvi dual link cable from work, but it did not make a difference after swapping it out. The players still blur when the camera is in fast motion. I guess my next step is to contact Acer's support team to see if this is an issue with their monitor. Any other thoughts or ideas would be appreciated. And thank you Rayven2, maybe one day I can buy you a beer

Not a problem at all mate, if I get any other ideas I'll let you know. Feel free to PM me if you happen to come across a solution. Hopefully you get one here from someone else, if not don't forget to pick best solution

Definitely. I think the solution may be getting a different monitor, haha.

Lol maybe so, I'm sure you'll be able to sell it quite easily. I myself am shopping for a monitor. 24 inch however, not planning on going that big.

Luckily I can RMA back with newegg within 30 days of purchasing. Though I could probably sell it for more than I paid for, didn't even think of that!

 

[Rayven2]

I was able to get a dvi dual link cable from work, but it did not make a difference after swapping it out. The players still blur when the camera is in fast motion. I guess my next step is to contact Acer's support team to see if this is an issue with their monitor. Any other thoughts or ideas would be appreciated. And thank you Rayven2, maybe one day I can buy you a beer

Not a problem at all mate, if I get any other ideas I'll let you know. Feel free to PM me if you happen to come across a solution. Hopefully you get one here from someone else, if not don't forget to pick best solution

Definitely. I think the solution may be getting a different monitor, haha.

Lol maybe so, I'm sure you'll be able to sell it quite easily. I myself am shopping for a monitor. 24 inch however, not planning on going that big.

Luckily I can RMA back with newegg within 30 days of purchasing. Though I could probably sell it for more than I paid for, didn't even think of that!

Sounds like we resolved the issue lol 😀

 

[bluejayek]

Sorry for dropping out of the thread!

That old monitor you had is a TN panel, I looked up the product number, this would completely explain the difference you are experiencing.

As per IPS being a standard, I don't know that it really is. You can certainly get both TN and IPS panels, but I suppose IPS are becoming more common as their prices drop. Apart from price, for most things except fast paced gaming IPS panels seem to be superior.

As per a suggestion, this may be outside your budget (and isn't quite available yet), but given your sensitivity to motion blur, it may be worth a look. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236405

It is a 144Hz TN panel monitor with a very fast response time, so motion blur should be completely eliminated. The other fancy new feature of it is G-SYNC, which is supposed to be a much improved version of V-SYNC to eliminate screen tearing. It will only work with Nvidia GPUs though, so if you do not have one don't get this monitor.

Otherwise, you might take a look at http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00906HM6K/?tag=geo01-20 for considerably less price. It still is a 120Hz TN with fast response rate, and gets pretty good reviews.

Check out this review: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/content/asus_vg278he.htm

If you scroll down to the response rate testing (cntrl-F display comparisons) you can see that it has extremely minimal ghosting compared to the other screens they test.

 

[bogus666]

Sorry for dropping out of the thread!

That old monitor you had is a TN panel, I looked up the product number, this would completely explain the difference you are experiencing.

As per IPS being a standard, I don't know that it really is. You can certainly get both TN and IPS panels, but I suppose IPS are becoming more common as their prices drop. Apart from price, for most things except fast paced gaming IPS panels seem to be superior.

As per a suggestion, this may be outside your budget (and isn't quite available yet), but given your sensitivity to motion blur, it may be worth a look. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236405

It is a 144Hz TN panel monitor with a very fast response time, so motion blur should be completely eliminated. The other fancy new feature of it is G-SYNC, which is supposed to be a much improved version of V-SYNC to eliminate screen tearing. It will only work with Nvidia GPUs though, so if you do not have one don't get this monitor.

Otherwise, you might take a look at http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00906HM6K/?tag=geo01-20 for considerably less price. It still is a 120Hz TN with fast response rate, and gets pretty good reviews.

Check out this review: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/content/asus_vg278he.htm

If you scroll down to the response rate testing (cntrl-F display comparisons) you can see that it has extremely minimal ghosting compared to the other screens they test.

Awesome, thanks a lot. The more I think about it the more I believe it has to be the response time. I should really be looking at getting something that is 2ms or less.Both of those monitors look good, they may be a bit out of my price range, but at least now I know what to look for. THanks again. I would select yours as the best answer but for some reason Rayven2's comment got selected as the best answer. I don't remember selecting it so I am sorry. I don't see a way to change it, but I know you're the real mvp, bluejayek