(Mouse issues,stuttering.) Help?

[Rynex0]

Anyone ever fix mouse stuttering?

Hello to everyone who reads my thread, here is my story, about a month ago I built my pc for gaming and everything was going well for half a month then I downloaded Borderlands 2 then soon I began to have issues with stuttering/jittery/choppy mouse movements when looking around/aiming, oddly enough this is not an issue with an Xbox360 wired control or movements with the keybored. This has been a persistent issue with the majority of my games on steam and off steam with all my games runing at a consistent 60fps.

I have tried the following
-Tested 3 different mice- the one I'm currently using-(TEAM SCORPION X-LUCA: Gaming Mouse)
with a DPI switch (600-2400 DPI)-used the varies different dpi settings.
-Bought mouse Pad.
-Turned off enhanced pointer,changed sensitivity.
-Tested on both my LCD tv and monitor through hdmi and Dvi.
-Yes I have my 360 control unplugged during games.
- Vsync on/off
-I even used "The MarkC Windows 8.1 + 8 + 7 Mouse Acceleration Fix".
-Did a clean re-install
-Upated my BIOS, everything is updated to latest drivers including GPU drivers.
-tryed varies different USB ports.

Finally after all the previous troubleshooting I just replaced some of my hardware:

I have tried this to rule out hardware:
-Different mice tested/different display.
-Replaced: GPU,MOBO-wiith different brand,new CPU, RAM, (so basically its a new system with the exception of the PSU,DVDWriter,HDD,SSD and Case-dont know if these components can cause this?

Clean new system and the problem is still an issue .

Probably did other stuff but I pretty much exhausted as much possible solutions as I could that includes calling my mobo and gpu technical support to no effect (the only thing I possibly got was MSI told me it sounds like a software issue-(this is when I had the Z87 G45-Gaming mobo) and EVGA was even more clueless as they just told me to return the card.

MY SPECS:

CPU: I7 4770K
MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-UD3H
GPU: EVGA GTX 780 SC 3GB
SDD: Samsung 840 EVO-Series 120GB
HDD: WD Blue 1 TB
PSU: CORSAIR HX750-Haswell Ready
CASE: Corsair 300R
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LP Blue 8 GB DDR3 1600MHz
DVD: HP CD/DVD Burner/Model DVD1265I

operating system: Microsoft Windows 8 64-bit (Full Version) - OEM

Monitor: Dell UltraSharp U2412M Black IPS Panel 24" 8ms

The only thing that even comes close to a fix is turning the sensitivity down all the way in games but its not a viable option in every game and it feels well of course slow.

Well thanks for looking hope someone can help me out, thanks.

Video example recorded by another user basically the same issue im having:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5wo0CI3g_4

 

[ssddx]

if you run at very high dpi it could very well be your own hands which are causing the issue. its not uncommon for hands to have a little bit of trembling or shaking which can convey into a jittery motion when gaming at high dpi.

perhaps look into mouse smoothing which reduces the effect.

also if the mouse "hangs" on the mousepad (eg doesnt slide easily) this could create a jittery motion. at high dpi and sensitivity (eg 360 turning with 1-2" mouse movement) this could be quite noticible while at a different setting (eg 360 turning in 4" movement) might not recreate the issue.

some food for thought that it might not be any hardware or software issues since you seem to have exhausted all other ideas.

 

[Rynex0]

if you run at very high dpi it could very well be your own hands which are causing the issue. its not uncommon for hands to have a little bit of trembling or shaking which can convey into a jittery motion when gaming at high dpi.

The idea that it could be my hands has indeed crossed my mind but came to the conclusion that its not because it is noticeable stuff I can move the mouse regardless of high or low Dpi and it will feel like im riding a bike on a bunch of pebbles or a rocky surface as compared to a smooth road, rotating the camera especially, just the amount of jitter observed from my hand to whats being displayed does not match. mouse smoothing was also attempted.

 

[ssddx]

it doesnt take much jitter at high dpi to produce rather large effects on screen.

my hands are not what i would call shakey but they do have a tiny bit of jitter (as most hands do) and i absolutely cannot run at high dpi because i notice it on screen.

have some other people use your mouse (especially people who dont drink coffee or energy drinks... or people with jittery hands) and see how their results compare.

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not trying to say the issue is your hands... just think its worth doing some more testing instead of just looking at your hands and saying nope.

 

[Rynex0]

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not trying to say the issue is your hands... just think its worth doing some more testing instead of just looking at your hands and saying nope.

lol no offense taken I only know your trying to help I'm taking your advise seriously, it wont hurt to get a friend to take a go at it.

 

[Rynex0]

Well had my brother give it a shot with the same results I also updated the post with a video if you would like to take a look, as of now I think I might just buy a a expensive gaming mouse just to see if it makes a difference and just return it if the issue remains.

 

[ssddx]

oh wow... that is some crazy stuttering going on. i thought you might be referring to microstuttering but that typically shows up as only a small amount of stutter that you only really notice when sniping or doing any other pinpoint accuracy tasks.

this could be something different, however, you could notice microstuttering this bad if you have all of your sensitivities turned up. for example your game mouse sensitivity in game is near 100%. i've personally seen my mouse get this choppy when i have done this in the past.

if you have already checked the above and want a second possible reason...

it could be that the sensor in the mouse is having a hard time tracking for some reason. this could be due to a mousepad or surface which confuses it (high contrast or shiny surfaces can do this) or perhaps that the sensor is going bad for some reason.

test all of the mice which you had problems with on a different computer. if they all work then its not the mice at all.

i still want to say its something to do with your settings. perhaps sensitivity is turned up too high in game, perhaps you have your windows mouse speed turned way up, perhaps dpi. as i said i've seen the mouse act like this in the past with settings turn way up in certain areas but i'm not ruling out possible bad mice.

if the mice work on another pc (without you tweaking any settings) its your own pc settings. if they dont work then it could be the mice.

 

[Rynex0]

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Well I bought a Razer Death Adder 2013 gaming mouse and to no surprise it didn't even work same results no matter what settings I apply sensitivity low and high,dpi low or high and even calibrating the mouse and (mat) along with trying the different polling rates. Well I cant think of anything else at this point just completely lost out of ideas.

 

[ssddx]

your windows mouse speed and in game mouse speed and sensitivity settings are what?

as i mentioned in my prior post...

they are seperate from your mouse driver settings... and can sometimes stack on top of them.

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I have my sensitivity on low in my games all the Way low just like in the image you have provided both in the windows settings and game settings and as of today the mouse's own settings. I have fiddled through the mouse properties multiple times.

What is odd is how I completely completed Bioshock with the default settings within mouse properties and all of a sudden I have to tweak the default settings to try to get it to function correctly as it did before.