MSFT Gets Touch Cover Keyboard Patent for Surface Tablet

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WithoutWeakness

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This is actually something I'm not upset about someone patenting. Although other tablets have keyboard cases from third-party manufacturers, the Touch Cover's capacitive design, the purpose-specific magnetic connectors on the tablet, and the inclusion/use of the kickstand were really the most innovative implementation that any manufacturer has come up with to marry a keyboard to a tablet. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple was on their heels thinking of how to develop one of their Smart Covers to mimic the keyboard design of the Surface.
 

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[citation][nom]WithoutWeakness[/nom]... really the most innovative implementation that any manufacturer has come up with ...[/citation]
Wasn't it Apple that first come up with the idea to have a magnetically attached cover ?!?
Now all of a sudden M$ most innovative, M$ and innovative do not belong to one and the same sentence.
 

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[citation][nom]everlast66[/nom]Wasn't it Apple that first come up with the idea to have a magnetically attached cover ?!?Now all of a sudden M$ most innovative, M$ and innovative do not belong to one and the same sentence.[/citation]


Except Apple's covers weren't 1/2 as functional... This is far nicer than any Apple cover...
 

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[citation][nom]WithoutWeakness[/nom]... really the most innovative implementation that any manufacturer has come up with ...[/citation]
And Apple is also the only manufacturer that I know of that uses and has used for years magnetically attached connectors on their laptops.
 

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[citation][nom]everlast66[/nom]Wasn't it Apple that first come up with the idea to have a magnetically attached cover ?!?Now all of a sudden M$ most innovative, M$ and innovative do not belong to one and the same sentence.[/citation]

Magnetic covers have been used for devices since early handheld calculators. Although keyboards being embedded in covers isn't new either, the way Microsoft implemented it is something very innovative.
 

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I am yet to see at least 1 of these so innovative devices in the wild !
Stupid people aren't they realizing what are they missing by not buying one of these masterpieces /sarcasm
 

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[citation][nom]everlast66[/nom]Wasn't it Apple that first come up with the idea to have a magnetically attached cover ?!?Now all of a sudden M$ most innovative, M$ and innovative do not belong to one and the same sentence.[/citation]
It may have but I think these patents are design patents which protect the specific design (regardless of who invented the "magnetic latch"), not utility patents which protect the functionality (against any design): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_patent
 

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I like the idea of having the keyboard and touch pad integraged into the cover. While this may not be a new thing their implementation of it is the best...so far. There will surely be others who try to make their own versions for all tablets on the market. This is 1 patent I don't mind a company getting since they actually produced they device they patented, and it's not just a demo unit that no one can get.

Off topic - As for MS not being innovative lets look at tablet pc's in general shall we. MS introduced the Tablet PC way back in 2002 (it flopped), then along comes Apple 8 years later with the iPad and the world pisses itself with how innovative this idea was. MS introduced the Surface late last year and people claim they copied Apple. I'm sure there were also other companies who had tablets before MS and Apple, but Apple was only innovative in that they made the tablet pc much easier to use for the common man/woman and their marketing worked. Businesses have been using tablets longer than Apple has had them around. Heck if you want to really look at the concept of a tablet style pc look at the original Star Trek series, ST TNG, DS9, Voyager, they all had a tablet style pc. All companies have really done is take that concept and make them a reality. In the end who really copied who?
 
[citation][nom]everlast66[/nom]And Apple is also the only manufacturer that I know of that uses and has used for years magnetically attached connectors on their laptops.[/citation]
Magnetic connectors originated in deep fryers. The idea being that if you trip on or a child pulls on a cord, the cord releases instead of boiling oil being flung everywhere. They were commonplace enough that UL worked on standardizing it in 2001 (so you could buy any replacement magnetic power cord instead of having to get the manacturer's).

That's where the patent should've ended. Unfortunately the USPTO has this bad habit of granting new patents on old ideas with "on a phone", "on a computer", and "on the internet" appended to the description.
 

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For anyone who has never used this keyboard its PURE CR@P. Big time. NO haptic feedback means you can't tell what you are you doing. If you have a chance to check one out on display, I recommend it because the keyboard is junk.... now patented junk, but still junk.
 

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[citation][nom]antilycus[/nom]For anyone who has never used this keyboard its PURE CR@P. Big time. NO haptic feedback means you can't tell what you are you doing. If you have a chance to check one out on display, I recommend it because the keyboard is junk.... now patented junk, but still junk.[/citation]

For $10 more you can get the Type Cover which has mechanical keys. The type cover is not perfect either, but a heck of a lot better than typing on a touch screen.
 

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[Off topic - As for MS not being innovative lets look at tablet pc's in general shall we. MS introduced the Tablet PC way back in 2002 (it flopped), then along comes Apple 8 years later with the iPad and the world pisses itself with how innovative this idea was. MS introduced the Surface late last year and people claim they copied Apple. I'm sure there were also other companies who had tablets before MS and Apple, but Apple was only innovative in that they made the tablet pc much easier to use for the common man/woman and their marketing worked. Businesses have been using tablets longer than Apple has had them around. Heck if you want to really look at the concept of a tablet style pc look at the original Star Trek series, ST TNG, DS9, Voyager, they all had a tablet style pc. All companies have really done is take that concept and make them a reality. In the end who really copied who?]

I don't think Apple was successful just because they somehow has "improved" tablet PC and "made it easier" to use. In my opinion, Apple was successful, only because they were riding on the success of the iPhone, which itself was riding on the success of iPod that gave them a huge target market to begin with. It was a series of well-timed product release, which combined the advancement in technology, more affordable prices and existing customer base.

Meanwhile, Microsoft and others in the past were selling their tablets to the "professional" market. The prices were high, and the technology at that time was not really that great yet. Take a look at the movie "Under Siege 2", where Steven Seagal was using Apple Newton, a devices which would evolve into PDA and smartphone later. Look at the screen resolution and its apparent functionality, do you think many people want to buy that if it was $499? Apple Newton was actually sold at $700.
 

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[citation][nom]antilycus[/nom]For anyone who has never used this keyboard its PURE CR@P. Big time. NO haptic feedback means you can't tell what you are you doing. If you have a chance to check one out on display, I recommend it because the keyboard is junk.... now patented junk, but still junk.[/citation]
Hmm, a touch sensitive keyboard not having any kind of mechanical feedback
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What exactly were you expecting?
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Methinks you are deliberately ignoring the Type keyboard that does have mechanical keys just so you can have an anti-MS rant - fire away - all it does is show up your own ignorance
 

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[citation][nom]jabliese[/nom]Apple has stated they are not interested in making tablets into notebooks.[/citation]
Despite having a vast array of peripherals on the accessories page that do exactly that
 

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[citation][nom]everlast66[/nom]Wasn't it Apple that first come up with the idea to have a magnetically attached cover ?!?[/citation]
The magnetically attached cover has been done before, but including a keyboard/touchpad to work alongside the integrated kickstand and making it a functional peripheral instead of a flimsy $40 plastic flap was the innovative part.

[citation][nom]antilycus[/nom]For anyone who has never used this keyboard its PURE CR@P. Big time. NO haptic feedback means you can't tell what you are you doing.[/citation]
There is no haptic feedback in the form of vibration but there is audible feedback from the speakers on the tablet in the form of a clicking noise when you press keys. The iPad's glass screen does the same thing (no vibration, audible click) and I bet you can tell what you're doing on that. I think Microsoft's keyboard is much better because you're not taking up half the screen with the virtual keyboard.
 

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[citation][nom]antilycus[/nom]For anyone who has never used this keyboard its PURE CR@P. Big time. NO haptic feedback means you can't tell what you are you doing. If you have a chance to check one out on display, I recommend it because the keyboard is junk.... now patented junk, but still junk.[/citation]

You're right. Typing on a screen is way better. I mean, what's he point of something with contoured and embossed keys when we have our touch screens? Anybody who thinks you're not a marvelous visionary for the future is off in La-la Land.

[pause - using and comparing touch cover to touch screen]

OK... you're full of crap. I'm easily twice as fast with the touch cover than with a touch screen. The type cover is even better (a lot better)... almost as good as my full sized keyboard. The touch cover is better as an actual cover, though.
 
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