MSFT Releases New Versions of Word and Office

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Jerky_san

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"i4i says it expected Microsoft to file such a petition but added that it looks forward to building its business now that Microsoft is required to stop selling the offending products."
 

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seems like i4i wants to impede progress. shameful company imho. however i kinda dislike having to troubleshoot older versions of word and excel trying to open that crappy XML format which is very unnecessary.
 

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US patent and copyright system is broken - simple as that. Any system that allows a company to generate a steady revenue stream by patent trolling is just messed up. Neither patents nor copyrights are used today in the manner in which they were originally introduced, and the system is widely abused to everyone's detriment. It needs fixing.
 

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[citation][nom]JohnnyLucky[/nom]The issuance of patents in the USA is problematic to say the least. The Internet is a particularly sensitive issue on many fronts. Perhaps it is time for the government to overhaul the system.[/citation]
It was time 10 years ago and still nothing has changed. Sometimes, I wonder if the USPTO don't make a percentage off these lawsuits. Maybe that's why they're slow to realize something is wrong.
 

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"Aside from paying the hefty damages, Microsoft was ordered not to sell or import any Microsoft products that had the capability to open .XML, .DOCX or .DOCM files containing custom XML, to the United States."

Wait, does that mean all the docx stuff I saved will be useless? Should I be converting them all back to doc or something?
 

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"Aside from paying the hefty damages, Microsoft was ordered not to sell or import any Microsoft products that had the capability to open .XML, .DOCX or .DOCM files containing custom XML, to the United States."

Wait, does that mean all the docx stuff I saved will be useless? Should I be converting them all back to doc or something?
 

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[citation][nom]TemjinGold[/nom]Wait, does that mean all the docx stuff I saved will be useless? Should I be converting them all back to doc or something?[/citation]

two words dude. Open Office
 

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Sorry to say, Open Office is unreliable for dealing with Word files. I used it to print a large legal document - a couple of pages weren't formatted correctly. When I printed them in MSWord I saw it wasn't just a format problem, Open Office completely skipped some content.

If you're not dealing with important Word files, Open Office is fine, otherwise you're stuck with Word, I'm affraid.
 

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Good, I hate the docx format with a fiery vengeance. Every time I forget to save in a doc format and send out a file as a docx I'll get a reply email in half-hour from some sales guy complaining he can't open it on a smart phone or on his pc at home. If this also means that the Word prompting will go away reminding me that my .doc file "may not have all features enabled properly in this format" (paraphrasing, I can't remember exactly what is says) will go away, I'm all for this.
 

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God it never amazes me how much these guys can throw around millions like its a stack of playing cards. I think there is more to the story and questions haven't been answered last time I followed this like why they waited so many years before taking legal action against microsoft.
 

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^ The damages wouldn't have been as high if they called MSFT out right away; they were milking it for all it was worth before turning it into a suit. +1 to greed for i4i
 

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[citation][nom]duckmanx88[/nom]two words dude. Open Office[/citation]
try telling that to every business that uses MS Office, all banking, insurance, support, travel, etc etc etc. Home users can do whatever they want but MS Office is embedded so deeply into business that switching out just is NOT an option.
 

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[citation][nom]back_by_demand[/nom]try telling that to every business that uses MS Office, all banking, insurance, support, travel, etc etc etc. Home users can do whatever they want but MS Office is embedded so deeply into business that switching out just is NOT an option.[/citation]

Or is expressly forbidden by the IT dept. I would gladly use Open Office at my work, if it was allowed.
 
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Like we need yet another version of word and excel!
It's not that we don't use only upto 3% of the program anyways!
 

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Usually its MS getting awarded a patent for a multi-button mouse or something that has already been around 20+ years. XML was made by design to be "customizable" for f#$&s sake.That i4i was awarded a patent for this in the first place is beyond ludicrous. That a court upheld the patent is pure bs.

I wonder if I can get a patent for "using a custom combination of letters of the Latin alphabet in a specific order to add a new word to the English language"? A very similar idea to i4i's patent, but for English rather than XML. Then I could sue any print or electronic publisher that ever uses a word not already in one of the major published English dictionaries. But darn, I've just released my idea to the public domain, haven't I?
 

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Quick and easy solution: Instead of paying i4i $290 Million, just buy the company itself for measly 300k that its worth. Fire its management team. Force its workers to work for half the pay and run the business into the ground. Why? Because microsoft makes enough money where it can do that without so much as a flinch! I'm suprised the EU didnt jump on this as another reason to take Microsoft to court for even more money and rediculus reasons....
 

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[citation][nom]EChiasson[/nom]Quick and easy solution: Instead of paying i4i $290 Million, just buy the company itself for measly 300k that its worth. Fire its management team. Force its workers to work for half the pay and run the business into the ground. Why? Because microsoft makes enough money where it can do that without so much as a flinch! I'm suprised the EU didnt jump on this as another reason to take Microsoft to court for even more money and rediculus reasons....[/citation]
Because even an oranisation as stupid and illogical as the EU has no power over patent infringement cases between the US and Canada. Give it another year or so and maybe, just maybe. They tested the waters by interfering with the Sun/Oracle merger til the FTC told them to keep their noses out of American affairs.
 

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[citation][nom]maestintaolius[/nom]Good, I hate the docx format with a fiery vengeance. ... [/citation]
Actually, what you then go on to illustrate is that you hate when you misuse that file format.
 

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[citation][nom]jnjkele[/nom]US patent and copyright system is broken - simple as that. Any system that allows a company to generate a steady revenue stream by patent trolling is just messed up. Neither patents nor copyrights are used today in the manner in which they were originally introduced, and the system is widely abused to everyone's detriment. It needs fixing.[/citation]
+1!
I wonder how much money is spent by the larger companies these days on just hunting down potential patent infringements.
 
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