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King_V

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Unfortunately, I think we're at the "Intel, you need to fix the screwups" stage of things with these cards... well, the software, at least.

And, Intel needs to price it even more aggressively then I might've thought before. They've got some damage control to do.
 
Unfortunately, I think we're at the "Intel, you need to fix the screwups" stage of things with these cards... well, the software, at least.

And, Intel needs to price it even more aggressively then I might've thought before. They've got some damage control to do.
I agree on both counts, TBH... I think they're past preventing scrwups for sure, so let me rephrase as: "come on, Intel! don't kick the ball further after dropping it and instead pick it up!". Better? xD

Also, I'm liking AV1 the more I test the software based one in OBS. I wish they would expose more options for tuning though.

Regards.
 
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I've got a couple older LP boxes that could use a GPU upgrade. RX 6400... Preforms crap on PCIe 3.0 bus. ARC GPUs... Need a system that supports resizable bar or they run like crap. Um.. okay. I guess these systems aren't getting any upgrades.
 
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I am SUPER stoked for this!!!!! I've got an older Optiplex I modded into a server that would hugely benefit from one of these things.

RX 6400... Preforms crap on PCIe 3.0 bus.
Uh??? Are you sure about that? It barely loses any performance on 3.0 vs 4.0.


Need a system that supports resizable bar or they run like crap.
Your systems are the issue, not the card.
 

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I am SUPER stoked for this!!!!! I've got an older Optiplex I modded into a server that would hugely benefit from one of these things.



Uh??? Are you sure about that? It barely loses any performance on 3.0 vs 4.0.




Your systems are the issue, not the card.
One synthetic benchmark vs one real one for the RX 6400 with 30% loss.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6400-pci-express-30-scaling/3.html

Overall, it's not that bad, but I'm better off looking for an unicorn reasonably low profile GTX1650 or replacing them with consoles for $200.

My systems may suck, but I'm not the one selling low end video cards which cut out a substantial piece of the market.
 
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One synthetic benchmark vs one real one for the RX 6400 with 30% loss.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6400-pci-express-30-scaling/3.html
I tried it on a Ryzen system (R5 3600X, 4x4GB DDR4 4000) playing games where it's clearly bottlenecked and there was only a 5 to 10 percent difference between PCIe 3.0 and PCIe 4.0 across Cyberpunk 2077, Fallout 4, Skyrim, Destiny 2, Doom 2016, Doom Eternal, Wolfenstein: TNC, GTA 5, RDR2 Online, and Sea of Thieves.

Keep in mind that I checked DX9, DX11, DX12, OpenGL, and Vuklan. It loses the most performance on DX9 and OpenGL.

So I'm not sure what's different between my card and TPU's in their tests.
 

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