MSI GD65 Gaming or AsRock Fatal1ty Professional?

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The GD65 Gaming is by far a great board and will do very well. I have one personally and it does great, I also use the MPOWER in my test rig. I have tested many MSI boards for the last 6 years and they all have been great. The only time I had issues is when I made it have some or killed it (LN2 and dry ice 😉 ) , I have spent an ungodly amount of time testing MSI parts. I choose them for all my family and friends builds since I am confident about their quality. That said I am very skilled at testing and may be more used to them day in and day out than others.

Also Tradesman - I thought that I read you stating that you don't build with MSI... So I am wondering how you can make statements like you do without current knowledge. I...
I'd wait for the Fatality, or if looking for a good, similar mobo, the Rock's Z77 Extreme 4, best selling Z77 and highest rated, have built on both numerous times and chose the Ex 4 for my own build - the MSI - won't touch their mobos due to the poor QC
 

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If that was to me, yes, at least a couple hundred builds, though not since soon after the SB debacle, and not a ton in the two years prior to Sandy Bridge, they've been sliding downhill since about 2008/9. Sales falling yearly, QC getting worse....I still see alot of them for problems, upgrades, etc and play with them and see how they interact with different DRAM, GPUs etc when I do...but even though I don't build on them, I get more problem calls on their mobos than any 2 other manufacturers put together, failures of Ports, (SATA, ethernet, USB, et al) , DRAM and PCI-E sockets....they aren't bad if you get a good one, but to me not even worth taking a chance when they have such multiple and diverse failures. Most all of the builders and IT folks I network with take the same stand, we just don't build on them
 
The GD65 Gaming is by far a great board and will do very well. I have one personally and it does great, I also use the MPOWER in my test rig. I have tested many MSI boards for the last 6 years and they all have been great. The only time I had issues is when I made it have some or killed it (LN2 and dry ice 😉 ) , I have spent an ungodly amount of time testing MSI parts. I choose them for all my family and friends builds since I am confident about their quality. That said I am very skilled at testing and may be more used to them day in and day out than others.

Also Tradesman - I thought that I read you stating that you don't build with MSI... So I am wondering how you can make statements like you do without current knowledge. I am just stating that because everytime I see you its just anti-MSI as normal. As for that asking for free boards I know that won't happen as it is more than just giving out to people who ask. At some point its just getting silly - and I still can't comprehend how you can do anything and post 3K times a month or more
 
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Correct, I don't, nor do I touch BioStar, EVGA, Intel, ECS, Foxconn, or others, I only build on Asus the Rock and GB...all of which I consider high quality and employ good Quality Control, keep their BIOSs up in a timely manner and provide good support. as far as MSI, quite easily, I still see a large number of their mobos for repairs upgrades etc, when I do, I have them overnight and will test GPUs, DRAM, DRives, etc on them and fairly generally there's problems with them, I also keep track of the systems world since I have a systems consultancy/business and MSI has been going downhill for about 5+ years now, they used to be a strong #3 in sales and were passed by ASRock around 2009/10 and while MSI continues to lose sales the Rock just increases it's sales advantage as MSI continues to drop. I don't know of any builders that will knowingly use components from a company that continually has QC problems - it's one thing for a batch of mobos to go out with say bad DRAM sockets (though I find it despicable to knowing send mobos out for sale when there is a problem like this and then to deny they know of any problems to customers, when they know there is a problem - like with their Sandy Bridge mobos, or even recently with the problem on their so called Killer NIC ethernet ports on the gaming 1150 mobos), but a whole different thing to find, those failures, and also ethernet port, USB ports failing, SATA ports, PCI-E sockets....to me that's just poor QC period, and it's showing up in all their mobo lines...They are also slow on the BIOS upkeep....As far as posting 😉 I normally work on rigs during the evenings, and on weekends in my shop, not a whole lot else to do while a rig is running a virus scan or a Malware scan, or memtest, or Prime - which is why I do it here rather than sit in someones house and stare at a monitor and watch it run through a million or more files...and the post add up to about a hundred a day, that's not much more than 2-3 hours, most take less than a minute

I'm glad you've had good luck with them and gotten good mobos, they do have decent mobos - IF you get a good one, however it's not worth it to take a chance on getting a GOOD one, unless you have the time to do returns and RMAs, and if if there's A QC failure, one of those annoying 30 or 60 day failures of a port or slot, it's bad enough for a home builder to have to do without while exchanging etc, but as a builder, what little was made building the rig goes right out the door when the builder (me) has to deal with providing a loaner rig, tear down the system, do the RMA/Exchange and the rebuild anew, that's just throwing money and time away both for a builder and a individual.
 
Looks like the AsRock isnt gonna be instock though, I prefer a red color scheme but if the Asus P8Z77-V Pro is a good board, I might consider changing it to a blue one...


EDIT: Does the MSI mobo has a "superspeed charging" or something that makes something charge super fast through a usb port?