Fluxify :
What motherboard do you think is the most reliable? (Doesn't have to be out of these two) If the motherboard is at MicroCenter and is under $200 it is a plus. Both of them seem to have a lot of issues from reviews.
This is my current build with a possibility of waiting on the 1070. The prices are messed up so don't worry about them. I need to fix them in a couple hours.
Up until a week ago, I was saying the best $200ish MoBo was the $210 Gigabyte Gaming 7 ... perty, great performer and great user reviews. Today it's $50 cheaper.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128835
My 2nd choice was the MSI M7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130872
However, if ya asked me what the best $309 board was... I woulda said the MSI XPower Titanium... now it's $209. At that proce, I'd find it hard to choose anything else.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130870
When it came out I said I'd like to buy one simply to put on my desk and stare at it because it was so gorgeous.... with these $50 - $100 price drops ... I think it's a safe bet that Z270 is about to drop very soon. Best take advantage of the discounts while they last.
As far as the build.
1. If budget is an issue and monies could be better spent elsewhere and, if this is a gaming box, I'd drop to the 6600k and save $55...
2. If I had a chance to buy the ranger for $145 , I'd jump at the chance to buy the Gigabyte of MSI listed above ... both at just $15 more
3. Again, really don't see the advantage of a gaming box with an SSD when most of ya games will be on a rather HD with rather than pedestrian speeds. You could increase speeds by 50% getting a WD Black, but that's $80 for the 1 TB and $104 for the 2TB... the SSHDs are $73 and $90 respectively for 1 and 2 TB and are twice as fast as the Blue in gaming per THG testing
4. GFX card wouldn't be my choice but it is fairly cheap at $220... OTOH, the MSI 1070 Gaming X is my 1st choice (quietest) and it's only $380 on newegg... $40 saving on the quieter card, pays for the Better MoBo and leaves ya $26 left over.
5. The EVGA G2 is a great PSU with 10.0 performance and 9.5 build quality rating from jonnyguru. On the other hand, the B2 gets a 9.0 and 9.5. Unless you are into hi end overclocking, the B2 will serve you just as well. On a side note... just RMA'd a 17 month old G2-1000... was kinda glad it failed as 1st one had a noisy fan. Problem is ... the replacement is noisy too. Can't argue w/ either choice ... get what will serve your needs best ... but if your needs don't include pushing OC limits higher than most, you will save $50 with the B2 ... both will handle twin 1070s.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=380
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=393
6. The Pro is a really nice $89 case ... $109 if ya want the more desirable white model ... but look at it this way:
a) The Enthoo Luxe at $149 is clearly the better case and comes with 3 fans
b) The Pro at $89 / $109 (white) comes with 1 fan and adding the 2 fans (+$30) in your build so both cases have 3 fans, you are up to $119 / $139
So if choosing the white, you are paying just $10 more for the much better case. Even at $30, it seems a bargain, especially if considering any of the recommended changes above.
7. With the Enthoo cases, I'd want one of the color coordinated Phanteks coolers. 2C better cooling than the H5 and the fins can be selected to match MoBo / case colors. The white cooler in the white case is especially attractive.
white
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/qX6BD3/phanteks-cpu-cooler-phtc14pe
black
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/wdkD4D/phanteks-cpu-cooler-phtc14pebk
Zerk2012 :
I never put to much stock in user reviews just Profesional ones.
A lot of people have no business building a PC even as esay as it is. It can come down to they bent b the MB pins installing the CPU or even just put the cooler on to tight.
My favorite review on Newegg simply stated. Bad motherboard had to RMA my memory. For that they gave it 1 star.
That is true to an extent but ignores two very important mathematical concepts.
1. Statistics - reading one review on a board and basing a purchase decision on means that the decision making process was based upon statistically invalid assumption. I don't start paying attention till the sampling reaches 20, start to feel reasonably confident at 50 and after 100, you can feel pretty save in basing a decision on the entirety of the numbers. I wouldn't bet on a college football team with a 1 - 0 versus an 0-1 record. But if it's a 10-1 versus a 1-10 and the teams have played similar level opponents, then you can feel pretty confident in the outcome.
2. Equal Dispersion in Reasonable Sample Size - If two competing model each have 150 reviews, one has 60% 5 eggs and 12% 1 eggs ... and the other has 40% 5 eggs and 35% 1 egg., there is no reasonable justification that all the "people have no business building a PC" are all choosing the latter MoBo and all the smart knowledge able people are buying the other. The will be a reasonably consistent distribution of both types of users in each sample. If we were to conclude otherwise and that all the smart people are all buying the higher rated MoBos, then maybe it would be a god idea to follow suit
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