[SOLVED] MSI prebuilt with MSI RTX 3080 keeps crashing to black screen during games and fans go full blast ?

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I bought the MSI Aegis RS 11TE-089US prebuilt around about a year ago. Occasionally while gaming I get crashes to a black screen and my fans go all full blast. Some games I can play for hours before this happens and others it will happen within minutes. I've determined that it's not a gpu, cpu, or memory temperature issue by having GPU-Z logging everything for when these crashes occur. The temperatures are all within a healthy range. But that's about all that I've been able to determine.

Am I dealing with a dying or poorly manufactured GPU? Or is there a possibility for it to be something else?

Every time I get this crash Windows Reliability History shows a hardware error at the time of the crash. That error is as follows:

Description
A problem with your hardware caused Windows to stop working correctly.

Problem signature
Problem Event Name: LiveKernelEvent
Code: 141
Parameter 1: ffffd102bbbe6050
Parameter 2: fffff8005aee1690
Parameter 3: 0
Parameter 4: 4
OS version: 10_0_19044
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 768_1
OS Version: 10.0.19044.2.0.0.768.101

Locale ID: 1033

The specs of my entire system are the following:

Processor - Intel Core i7-11700K 3.60 GHz
Memory - 32 GB DDR4 (4 x 8 GB) 3000 MHz
Graphics - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB GDDR6X
Power Supply - 750W 80+ Gold
Motherboard- MSI ATX (PRO)
Chipset - Intel Z590
Storage - 1 TB M.2 NVMe SSD + 2 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM HDD


I just need some help determing how to test each possible culprit individually. Or if that's even necessary. Maybe the problem is super obvious to those of you much smarter than I.
 

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Could be transient power spike of a GPU.

Now, your GPU is 320W or 350W unit, and transient power spikes can make GPU to consume 2-3 times more power than they are rated for. This means your RTX 3080, for milliseconds, can pull easy 500+W from PSU.

GamersNexus made a nice video about this phenomena:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnRyyCsuHFQ


Fix? Far beefier PSU, 1000W unit should do it.
 
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Aeacus

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Could be transient power spike of a GPU.

Now, your GPU is 320W or 350W unit, and transient power spikes can make GPU to consume 2-3 times more power than they are rated for. This means your RTX 3080, for milliseconds, can pull easy 500+W from PSU.

GamersNexus made a nice video about this phenomena:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnRyyCsuHFQ


Fix? Far beefier PSU, 1000W unit should do it.
 
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I bought the MSI Aegis RS 11TE-089US prebuilt around about a year ago. Occasionally while gaming I get crashes to a black screen and my fans go all full blast. Some games I can play for hours before this happens and others it will happen within minutes. I've determined that it's not a gpu, cpu, or memory temperature issue by having GPU-Z logging everything for when these crashes occur. The temperatures are all within a healthy range. But that's about all that I've been able to determine.

Am I dealing with a dying or poorly manufactured GPU? Or is there a possibility for it to be something else?

Every time I get this crash Windows Reliability History shows a hardware error at the time of the crash. That error is as follows:

Description
A problem with your hardware caused Windows to stop working correctly.

Problem signature
Problem Event Name: LiveKernelEvent
Code: 141
Parameter 1: ffffd102bbbe6050
Parameter 2: fffff8005aee1690
Parameter 3: 0
Parameter 4: 4
OS version: 10_0_19044
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 768_1
OS Version: 10.0.19044.2.0.0.768.101

Locale ID: 1033

The specs of my entire system are the following:

Processor - Intel Core i7-11700K 3.60 GHz
Memory - 32 GB DDR4 (4 x 8 GB) 3000 MHz
Graphics - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB GDDR6X
Power Supply - 750W 80+ Gold
Motherboard- MSI ATX (PRO)
Chipset - Intel Z590
Storage - 1 TB M.2 NVMe SSD + 2 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM HDD


I just need some help determing how to test each possible culprit individually. Or if that's even necessary. Maybe the problem is super obvious to those of you much smarter than I.
If still within the warranty contact the merchant.
 

t1z

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I took a screenshot of the last minute of GPU-Z log before the last crash happened. I could be wrong and I probably am, but adding up the values I get 915watts. Let me know if I'm reading this correctly.

https://ibb.co/0X9KV6N

Also, I purchased a 3070 over the weekend to test and haven't had a single crash since installing it.
 

Aeacus

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I could be wrong and I probably am, but adding up the values I get 915watts. Let me know if I'm reading this correctly.
GPU chip power draw should be excluded, since it is included in the two 8-pin power consumption values. Still, removing the ~140W of GPU chip power draw, brings the total to ~775W, which is more what your PSU is rated for.

Your CPU is 125W (more if you've OC'd it), rest of the build is ~150W and GPU transient power spikes could bring it to 500-750W. Hence why 1000W PSU would do.

Also, I purchased a 3070 over the weekend to test and haven't had a single crash since installing it.
RTX 3070 is 220W GPU, easy 100-130W less than RTX 3080, whereby RTX 3070 transient power spikes doesn't go so high, to surpass what your PSU can deliver, hence why everything is normal.
 
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OK, sounds good to me. I'll upgrade the PSU and see what happens. Do you have a recommendation on a quality 1000w PSU? I don't really care about the cost, I want my PC to be healthy.
 

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Do you have a recommendation on a quality 1000w PSU? I don't really care about the cost, I want my PC to be healthy.
Here's another one:

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Review: https://www.pcgamer.com/seasonic-tx-1000-power-supply-review/

I too have two Seasonic PRIME 80+ Titanium units in use, with my PCs (Skylake and Haswell, full specs with pics in my sig), but mine are 650W units. :sol:
 
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