MSI Radeon R9 270X GAMING 4GB power consumption?

[TwiZtedMeRcY5]

So in my personal PC rig, I am running an MSI Radeon R9 270X GAMING 4GB. When I bought it, it said on that specific site that the very consumption of the graphics was 500w (I think... If I remember right)
But now, it seems like they have removed that graphics card from the site so I had to look it up on another site that showed the power consumption, there it said 161w. Then I look on another site just to find out that the consumption is 500w. Wich one is true? I need help since I am planning to buy a new processor (the AMD FX-8350) aswell as the NZXT Kraken x61, and I want to find out if I'll need to buy another power supply. I am currently running a Corsair CX 750 watt Modular power supply.

 

[jazzy663]

Your PSU is fine. Corsair CX isn't the best line of PSUs, they are Tier 3, but they are certainly not the worst and 750 Watts is more than enough.

You're getting some things mixed up. 500W is the minimum recommended PSU wattage for the card - this is the official spec.

The other value is the maximum draw that the card will take from the PSU during the worst-case scenario. The site I frequent for data on graphics chips and CPUs, Game-Debate, says that the maximum draw is 180W.

This is your card, yes? http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/?gid=2056&graphics=Radeon%20R9%20270X%20MSI%20Gaming%204GB%20Edition

Upgrading to the 8350, you will be fine. I don't know what CPU you have installed now, but I assume it is a less powerful AM3+ CPU such as FX-4350 or FX-6300, or perhaps an AM3 CPU on a board that supports both AM3 and AM3+ CPUs. The FX-8350 has a TDP of 125W. A bit thirstier than most chips, but your 750W PSU will be able to handle it. Just make sure your motherboard has the VRMs to handle that kind of TDP.

 

[Math Geek]

yah the 160 watts is the power the card will use and the 500w is what the psu should be able to provide. remember the rest of the system needs power too. 160 for the gpu, 125 for the cpu, more for the hdd, dvd drive...... and it adds up fast. so the site posts both what the card needs and an estimate for total system.

the psu required number is always overestimated so even though it says 500w min, you can probably do it with a quality 400 watts. they overestimate to compensate for all the cheap weak psu's out there. just because it says 750 watts don't mean your getting 750 watts!! i have a 375 watt psu that has as much on the 12v rail as some psu's rated at 600 watts. mine is not mislabeled but the other one is junk.

 

[TwiZtedMeRcY5]

Your PSU is fine. Corsair CX isn't the best line of PSUs, they are Tier 3, but they are certainly not the worst and 750 Watts is more than enough.

You're getting some things mixed up. 500W is the minimum recommended PSU wattage for the card - this is the official spec.

The other value is the maximum draw that the card will take from the PSU during the worst-case scenario. The site I frequent for data on graphics chips and CPUs, Game-Debate, says that the maximum draw is 180W.

This is your card, yes? http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/?gid=2056&graphics=Radeon%20R9%20270X%20MSI%20Gaming%204GB%20Edition

Upgrading to the 8350, you will be fine. I don't know what CPU you have installed now, but I assume it is a less powerful AM3+ CPU such as FX-4350 or FX-6300, or perhaps an AM3 CPU on a board that supports both AM3 and AM3+ CPUs. The FX-8350 has a TDP of 125W. A bit thirstier than most chips, but your 750W PSU will be able to handle it. Just make sure your motherboard has the VRMs to handle that kind of TDP.

Oh alright then, seems like I've got a few things mixed up!
And yeah, thats the card I've got (the link you posted)

Currently I am running an AMD FX- 6300 (AM3+) So i will be fine to upgrade to an FX-8350 alright? But then I was thinking about going with a Kraken x61 water cooler, do you think I'll be able to get that and keep my 750w PSU? Because at my ''local'' site, it says the power consumption of the Kraken is 12w, isnt that a bit to little, I mean it comes with to fans aswell as a pump..?

But anyways thanks for the help about the watts!

 

[jazzy663]

Yep, you'll be okay. 750W is a good amount of wattage.

Just keep in mind that there exist AM3+ motherboards that only support up to 95W CPUs. As I said, the 8350 is a 125W CPU. It wouldn't hurt to check on the manufacturer site for your motherboard and see if the 8350 is in the CPU support list.

 

[TwiZtedMeRcY5]

Yep, you'll be okay. 750W is a good amount of wattage.

Just keep in mind that there exist AM3+ motherboards that only support up to 95W CPUs. As I said, the 8350 is a 125W CPU. It wouldn't hurt to check on the manufacturer site for your motherboard and see if the 8350 is in the CPU support list.

Alright then, just checked if my motherboard (GIGABYTE GA-970A-DS3P) did support the 8350, and it seems
like it doesn't.
So I'm changing my mind and I'm deciding to go with the 8370 instead (wich my motherboard does support), with the NZXT Kraken x61!

Well anyways, thanks for all the help mate!

 

[jazzy663]

Yep, you'll be okay. 750W is a good amount of wattage.

Just keep in mind that there exist AM3+ motherboards that only support up to 95W CPUs. As I said, the 8350 is a 125W CPU. It wouldn't hurt to check on the manufacturer site for your motherboard and see if the 8350 is in the CPU support list.

Alright then, just checked if my motherboard (GIGABYTE GA-970A-DS3P) did support the 8350, and it seems
like it doesn't.
So I'm changing my mind and I'm deciding to go with the 8370 instead (wich my motherboard does support), with the NZXT Kraken x61!

Well anyways, thanks for all the help mate!

Hmm?

Hold on now. It looks like there are two revisions of the GA-970A-DS3P, 1.0 and 2.0.

Which one do you have? The CPU support list is slightly different for each.

I grabbed this information from Gigabyte's official website for that board, I would trust that before anything else:

CPU Support List for GA-970A-DS3P Revision 1.0: http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=4591

CPU Support List for GA-970A-DS3P Revision 2.0: http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=5216

It looks like revision 2.0 doesn't support the FX-8370 (yet, support might come in a BIOS update), only its low-power variant, the 8370E. However, the FX-8350 is in the support list for both revisions.

Where did you get the CPU support information for your motherboard?

 

[TwiZtedMeRcY5]

Yep, you'll be okay. 750W is a good amount of wattage.

Just keep in mind that there exist AM3+ motherboards that only support up to 95W CPUs. As I said, the 8350 is a 125W CPU. It wouldn't hurt to check on the manufacturer site for your motherboard and see if the 8350 is in the CPU support list.

Alright then, just checked if my motherboard (GIGABYTE GA-970A-DS3P) did support the 8350, and it seems
like it doesn't.
So I'm changing my mind and I'm deciding to go with the 8370 instead (wich my motherboard does support), with the NZXT Kraken x61!

Well anyways, thanks for all the help mate!

Hmm?

Hold on now. It looks like there are two revisions of the GA-970A-DS3P, 1.0 and 2.0.

Which one do you have? The CPU support list is slightly different for each.

I grabbed this information from Gigabyte's official website for that board, I would trust that before anything else:

CPU Support List for GA-970A-DS3P Revision 1.0: http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=4591

CPU Support List for GA-970A-DS3P Revision 2.0: http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=5216

It looks like revision 2.0 doesn't support the FX-8370 (yet, support might come in a BIOS update), only its low-power variant, the 8370E. However, the FX-8350 is in the support list for both revisions.

Where did you get the CPU support information for your motherboard?

I've got the GA-970A-DS3P Revison 1.0 (rev 1.0)

Well, the site I got the information from, was from some site called 'cpu upgrade' or something like that (checked it out yesterday so I can't really remember)
I did try to find the CPU support list on Gigabytes site, but couldn't find it for some reason.
But, so you're saying that both the Revision 1.0 and the Revison 2.0 supports the FX-8350. So there won't be any BIOS updates needed or anything like that, if I decide to go with the FX-8350 or the FX-8370 (on the GA-970A-DS3P Revison 1.0 of course)

 

[jazzy663]

Check your board's BIOS version. If it says F1 or higher, then it will accept the 8350. I am not sure, but I think that may be the BIOS version your board shipped with. Please check anyway.

 

[TwiZtedMeRcY5]

Check your board's BIOS version. If it says F1 or higher, then it will accept the 8350. I am not sure, but I think that may be the BIOS version your board shipped with. Please check anyway.

Alright, thanks!