It depends on title, but yeah Richland isn't great when paired with a strong GPU. The only thing these laptops have going for them is a strong GPU and a low price (relatively speaking). Games with Mantle support will do much better though, for what it's worth.Either way, I'm sure they'll have a product refresh when Kaveri mobile comes out. Hopefully on the power-limited mobile end they'll have clocks closer to Richland than their desktop counterparts. The only question I have: Can you use the embedded TrueAudio DSP in the APU, even when you're relying on discrete graphics (which lack TrueAudio) in a non-Crossfire scenario? For example, these same laptops with Kaveri dropped in.Given that kaveri is far superior CPU wise than richland, why didnt MSI wait for kaveri a10 mobile chips to come out, rather than using the old richland 5750m, which has already proven to be too weak to feed the 8970m, which is the same as the r290m.
Actually the 780M is based off a GTX 670 and its just slightly more powerful than the 670M290X: AKA underclocked Pitcairn for the 3rd generation in a row. Whereas Nvidia's flagship laptop GPU is basically a desktop 680/770. It would be neat if AMD would create an underclocked Tahiti with castrated DP (less wattage) for their laptop flagship. Because currently we have what is basically a R9 270X going head to head with a GTX 770. It makes AMD look weaker than they really are, hence all the pro-green fanboyism. I guess high end laptop isn't profitable enough? I suppose it makes sense that they'd focus on APUs exclusively.
Actually it says "clocked up to" 3.5Ghz, which is technically accurate. The base clock is 2.5, but the chip will turbo up to 3.5, and will probably reach and sustain high clocks more often than a model leaning on the integrated graphics. Especially given that this is Richland and not Trinity. But yes, it would be better for them to state the base clocks too.I believe that's 2.5 GHZ not 3.5 GHZ. there have a been a lot of misprints from websites.