News MSI RTX 4060 Graphics Cards Surface on Newegg, Starting at $299

I noticed today some YT'ers and maybe/probably, even, some written tech press (I haven't found any yet! that's good!) have put out "preview reviews" for the 4060, which is abominable to me.

I don't want to go into too much of it, but allow me this rant at least: why would you justify nVidia's treatment to the tech press by playing right into their hands and just be an extension to their marketing dept by doing this. The usual "but nVidia didn't pay me" is so dumb when they send cards for free in exchange for a service to which they ("reviewers") agree to and follow their guidelines in full. Not long ago people was up in arms about the "editorial direction" arm-twisting from nVidia to HUB, but it seems like that was soon forgotten, or maybe the smokes and mirrors are strong this time?

So much to talk about there, but I'll keep it short. I have to say I'm a tad disgusted and disappointed at those who bit and took nVidia's bait.

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I noticed today some YT'ers and maybe/probably, even, some written tech press (I haven't found any yet! that's good!) have put out "preview reviews" for the 4060, which is abominable to me.

Yes, but I think only for one game, which is Cyberpunk 2077. Although, the official review embargo lifts on Wednesday, but NVIDIA has just now decided to implement a new early embargo, for only for YouTubers ?

Doesn't make much sense to me though. Why leave other games out and just pick CP2077 ?

I know CP2077 is used as an Nvidia TECH DEMO to find out the performance impact of Path Tracing, DLSS and RT, but it feels like they are promoting this game too much. Maybe CDPR paid Nvidia for the promotion, or vice versa, ?
 
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>allow me this rant at least:

Allow me to play the devil's advocate and explain.

>why would you justify nVidia's treatment to the tech press by playing right into their hands and just be an extension to their marketing dept by doing this.

Because it's in their (the YTers') self-interest to do so. The YT economy isn't unlike the ad-supported blogs here; they need likes and views to get their income. Anything that's of interest or newsworthy (read: that can attract views) is fair game, and pre-release "reviews" and info is definitely of interest. They got you to watch it, no?

Heck, now that you posted about it, I'll seek out those "reviews" out and see what they say. Thanks! To use your logic, why are you playing into Nvidia marketing's hands by doing this?

You aren't of course, because what you're saying (ranting) is nonsense. Nobody is doing anybody any favor. Everybody is acting out of self-interest. Nvidia is "greedy" because that's what their investors/stakeholders want, more profits. They're acting in their interest. Peeps ranting on here about Nvidia are themselves "greedy" because they want more for less. Everybody is greedy, because everybody wants their self-interest catered to. This is how the world works.

>I have to say I'm a tad disgusted and disappointed at those who bit and took nVidia's bait.

Can I be honest? I'm the same, I'm "a tad disgusted and disappointed" at how ignorant and shortsighted people are on these forums, whining about greedy this and evil that. I wish they would just open their eyes a bit and experience more of reality.

But hey, I need to face reality, too. Whining about big/evil corps, or incompetent government, is the favorite Internet pasttime. That won't change in my lifetime. I'm used to it by now.
 
Yes, but I think only for one game, which is Cyberpunk 2077. Although, the official review embargo lifts on Wednesday, but NVIDIA has just now decided to implement a new early embargo, for only for YouTubers ?

Doesn't make much sense to me though. Why leave other games out and just pick CP2077 ?

I know CP2077 is used as an Nvidia TECH DEMO to find out the performance impact of Path Tracing, DLSS and RT, but it feels like they are promoting this game too much. Maybe CDPR paid Nvidia for the promotion, or vice versa, hehe ?
I have no idea, to be honest why CP2077 only, but your guess is one that's easy to agree to. I would only add it's the only "proper" game that includes all the things they want to showcase that punishes Intel and AMD vis a vis. CP2077 is not a tech demo, but it's definitely being used as one, but it's not Ashes of the Singularity, right? Heh. It's a good game that just happens to use everything nVidia has and wants, so it just happens to be the best showcase for their tech portfolio. I'd like to think it's a coincidence, but I have no idea how much money nVidia has put into CDPR for it. I mean "help".

And it seems it was only for some YT'ers, yes. I still can't find any "written" tech press that has this "review preview" available.

Regards.
 

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Can't think of a legitimate reason anyone would waste $300 on this. It's way overpriced for a bottom tier video card. Whether you're upgrading or building a new system, there are better cards for less. The world truly has gone mad when $300 is considered "budget".
 
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I noticed today some YT'ers and maybe/probably, even, some written tech press (I haven't found any yet! that's good!) have put out "preview reviews" for the 4060, which is abominable to me.

I don't want to go into too much of it, but allow me this rant at least: why would you justify nVidia's treatment to the tech press by playing right into their hands and just be an extension to their marketing dept by doing this. The usual "but nVidia didn't pay me" is so dumb when they send cards for free in exchange for a service to which they ("reviewers") agree to and follow their guidelines in full. Not long ago people was up in arms about the "editorial direction" arm-twisting from nVidia to HUB, but it seems like that was soon forgotten, or maybe the smokes and mirrors are strong this time?

So much to talk about there, but I'll keep it short. I have to say I'm a tad disgusted and disappointed at those who bit and took nVidia's bait.

Regards.
It's the new "unboxing video". Fairly useless...