News MSI RX 7000-series graphics cards mysteriously disappear — AMD commitment questioned as supply dissolves worldwide

[Admin]

MSI is apparently withdrawing from the AMD GPU market as a whole. All MSI RX 7000 series supply has disappeared worldwide, save for one or two RX 7900 XTX listings.

MSI RX 7000-series graphics cards mysteriously disappear — AMD commitment questioned as supply dissolves worldwide : Read more

 

[Eximo]

Switching to team blue? Well, MSI used to make an A380, but I think that was the only card they made for Intel.

 

[punkncat]

Hmm, interesting. I wonder if they just aren't selling well enough for their liking or if there are other factors at play?

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

They currently want to focus more on NVIDIA RTX GPUs right now, due to demand/interest from users, the company confirmed this to HardwareLuxx.

Though the company will continue to offer AMD motherboards, but isn't saying that they'll stop offering AMD Radeon GPUs altogether, IMO.

When it comes to graphics cards, our focus at the moment is actually more on RTX cards. Nevertheless, the collaboration with AMD is essential and extremely relevant for us. We see a very positive development, particularly in the area of mainboards.

MSI Rep to HardwareLuxx

I guess MSI and other AIBs, all have to work with smaller margins on GPUs, and they have to decide whether a product is meaningful for them and if there's enough demand in the market or not.

 

[Notton]

With this kind of market share discrepancy, I'm not surprised.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-com...-increase-in-q4-amds-market-share-rises-to-19

 

[ThomasKinsley]

Remember the old days when everyone and their grandmother needed a gpu to render more than the desktop? Now integrated graphics is capable of so much more. That must be affecting the bottom line of these companies.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

MSI has already provided an official response and has confirmed their current focus is nVidia, not AMD.

In fact, our focus at the moment is more on RTX cards when it comes to graphics. Nevertheless, the collaboration with AMD is essential and of the highest relevance to us. Especially in the area of motherboards, we see a very positive development here.
- so MSI vis-à-vis Hardwareluxx

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.p...bei-den-mainboards-von-höchster-relevanz.html

 

[thestryker]

MSI the last few generations hasn't had many AMD models so them stepping back isn't particularly surprising.

Until my current card everything since my GTX 275 was MSI and I'd be happy going back to them in the future. I'm less happy about the current state of nvidia and how they're doing business so would love for them to have kept up with AMD and added Intel.

 

[YouFilthyHippo]

This story comes out in parallel with the rumours that AMD is going to exit the high end market, not that they've been able to compete with NVidia at all there. Now MSI drops out. I wonder if AMDs GPU department is slowly going tits up and we just haven't been told. If NVidia is the only GPU company (Intel doesn't count), expect to pay $819,337,461,552.83 for the 6090 when it comes. I smell a GPU exodus from AMD and board partners are going to start dropping out little by little. That makes me wonder what will become to PlayStation

 

[rluker5]

This story comes out in parallel with the rumours that AMD is going to exit the high end market, not that they've been able to compete with NVidia at all there. Now MSI drops out. I wonder if AMDs GPU department is slowly going tits up and we just haven't been told. If NVidia is the only GPU company (Intel doesn't count), expect to pay $819,337,461,552.83 for the 6090 when it comes. I smell a GPU exodus from AMD and board partners are going to start dropping out little by little. That makes me wonder what will become to PlayStation

More likely AMD is going for the lower margin bargain GPU market with a stagnant product and MSI is facing the same decision that EVGA did.

 

[Alpha_Lyrae]

This story comes out in parallel with the rumours that AMD is going to exit the high end market, not that they've been able to compete with NVidia at all there. Now MSI drops out. I wonder if AMDs GPU department is slowly going tits up and we just haven't been told. If NVidia is the only GPU company (Intel doesn't count), expect to pay $819,337,461,552.83 for the 6090 when it comes. I smell a GPU exodus from AMD and board partners are going to start dropping out little by little. That makes me wonder what will become to PlayStation

AMD isn't exiting the high-end GPU market, but did cancel MI300-like Navi 41 (with 13 chiplets) for a variety of reasons. One of the main reasons is that Navi 41 would have competed with MI300 for advanced assembly time at a moment where AMD is massively ramping MI300 supply to fill orders for AI/HPC datacenters and supercomputers; these are very high margin parts, unlike consumer-grade Navi 41. The other is that the chiplet architecture with multiple graphics dies isn't quite ready yet and very likely needs more time to mature.

Gamers are pretty demanding, so TDRs and/or stutters (or nasty frametime spikes from pipeline stalls) are just not going to be accepted, even with the novelty of a multi-graphics-chiplet GPU (vs the single GCD on N31/32). That's a good way for AMD to cede even more marketshare to Nvidia. And we all know Nvidia is working towards chiplet GPUs as well, yet we've only seen B200 (Blackwell), which is a compute platform supporting multi-GPU on-package via a very high-bandwidth interconnect along the edge of the die.

It's more difficult, when rendering graphics in real-time, to have chiplets doing graphics workloads without the necessary logic to keep workloads from jumping to another chiplet and causing issues. Chiplet teaming, where two chiplets work together on workloads, can be achieved when interconnect bandwidth is high enough and power low enough to make feasible. A chiplet level cache might be needed to allow data reuse between the two teaming chiplets. A new Infinity Chiplet Cache might be able to fill that role, with say, 4MB of global shared chiplet cache * number of teamed chiplets; this can be virtualized L2 (2MB) in each chiplet that combines via direct interconnect (plus necessary logic) and essentially doubles data storage by removing any redundant items in each chiplet or any number of other ways caches can be formed and used.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

This story comes out in parallel with the rumours that AMD is going to exit the high end market, not that they've been able to compete with NVidia at all there. Now MSI drops out. I wonder if AMDs GPU department is slowly going tits up and we just haven't been told. If NVidia is the only GPU company (Intel doesn't count), expect to pay $819,337,461,552.83 for the 6090 when it comes. I smell a GPU exodus from AMD and board partners are going to start dropping out little by little. That makes me wonder what will become to PlayStation

You’re also in a down economy where most folks don’t have money for the high end parts. Sure some do but I imagine that middle of the market is where 65% of people are buying who buy gpus. And for that amd has products that are currently good enough. If they do redesigns of their current higher end stuff I’m sure those are good enough to be next gen mid range gpus.

Not to say that they won’t go back to the high end if the economy improves but with the economy and high end users going nvidia maybe that’s what’s in their mind? Plus we saw a story how they are staying with gddr6. Perhaps that is a cost cutting measure?

I really do hope their gpu division isn’t in trouble though as I’ve gotten where I prefer amd gpus personally.

 

[artk2219]

It doesn't sound like its a potentially forever exit, but more of an exit for now. I can see them offering an RX 8000 product depending on if they can make sales and margins on them, but for now it seems like they aren't making the sales for it to be worth the trouble. Also it seems like Asrock has been making a bit of a push and may have taken a chunk of the market MSI had beforehand, thats probably changed the math a bit.