MSI RX480 Armor OC 4GB ...

[Imre_2]

Hi, i have been finding conflicting reviews of this card online.
I would like to know from somebody what is the real power usage of this card.
The MSI RX480 Armor OC 4GB, not the 8GB

Is the consumption 120 Watts or 150 Watts?

I have the following cards:
RX470 Saphire Nitro+ 8GB which uses as much a 132 Watts, ive never seen it climb beyond this.
RX470 PowerColor 4GB which uses as much as 121 Watts, ive never seen it climb beyond this.

Please assist me in confirming the usage of the - MSI RX480 Armor OC 4GB
And is this a decent card to use for mining along with the above.

I was considering an RX570 Aorus 4GB but i am not sure about the power consumption of this card either/also BUt something tells me they are worse off. Though what i find confusing is that some sites show that some brands of the RX570's use 120 watts so now i really dont know anymore, and then to top it off u get people giving you 1 liners with insufficient information or irrelevant information pertaining to what you are actually asking in the question/s (no offense to those trying to provide decent help) .

I was told that the RX cards should use the same power if they are set to that, to me this is not a good enough explanation and i clearly do not see this when i mine whatever coin it is i mine. Although MSI afterburner is syncing the settings i choose on the slider bars, the wattage consumption in GPU-Z or MSI Afterburner proggy shows me a difference of 10-15 watts.

I am just trying to establish the best possible card i can buy as an addition to my existing 2 cards.
Thank you .

 

[TJ Hooker]

I was told that the RX cards should use the same power if they are set to that, to me this is not a good enough explanation and i clearly do not see this when i mine whatever coin it is i mine. Although MSI afterburner is syncing the settings i choose on the slider bars, the wattage consumption in GPU-Z or MSI Afterburner proggy shows me a difference of 10-15 watts.

There will always be some difference in power draw due variability in the quality of the GPU, even if you had two of the same model. How are you measuring power?

If you want to know the power draw of an RX 480 Armor OC 4G, either find a review of that card that includes power measurements, or find a review of a different RX 480 4GB model that has similar clock speeds. There shouldn't be a huge difference between models.

Edit: If you're just using the power consumption reported by a monitoring utility, then I believe my old RX 480 Armor OC 4G used similar power to the numbers you listed for your current two cards.

Edit2: There don't seem to be many RX 480 4GB reviews out there. If you can find one for an 8GB card with similar clocks to the Armor OC, maybe just subtract ~10W to account for the difference in VRAM size/speed.

 

[Imre_2]

I was told that the RX cards should use the same power if they are set to that, to me this is not a good enough explanation and i clearly do not see this when i mine whatever coin it is i mine. Although MSI afterburner is syncing the settings i choose on the slider bars, the wattage consumption in GPU-Z or MSI Afterburner proggy shows me a difference of 10-15 watts.

There will always be some difference in power draw due variability in the quality of the GPU, even if you had two of the same model. How are you measuring power?

If you want to know the power draw of an RX 480 Armor OC 4G, either find a review of that card that includes power measurements, or find a review of a different RX 480 4GB model that has similar clock speeds. There shouldn't be a huge difference between models.

Edit: If you're just using the power consumption reported by a monitoring utility, then I believe my old RX 480 Armor OC 4G used similar power to the numbers you listed for your current two cards.

Edit2: There don't seem to be many RX 480 4GB reviews out there. If you can find one for an 8GB card with similar clocks to the Armor OC, maybe just subtract ~10W to account for the difference in VRAM size/speed.

Hey TJ, thanks for a decent reply, fs i can breathe a bit now.
So i am not trying to launch a rocket now or rescue the guys in the mission of Apollo 13.
I just want to make sure i dont buy a rubbish card that is drastically different to the ones i already have.
I just want to buy either a RX480 PowerColor Red Dragon 4GB or an RX480 MSI Armor OC 4GB or a bigger gamble and get the RX570 Aorus 4GB card , so there we have it, its really a simple question and perhaps i have been on the wrong forums cause i get really ridiculous answers rather than helping me but correcting or giving me not proper help.

I am only really concerned because i know somebody here that spent a fortune on hardware and the guy who set up his system for him for mining bought him RX580 cards or forgot now if they are RX480s and tell u they use alor of power and they really mine at rubbish speeds.


I seem to have it figured though according to some sites like game-debate that the power usage for the PowerColor Red Dragon 4GB uses a maximum of 120 watts. AND most importantly a youtube videos confirms this in real life scenario....
Unfortunately i dont find find that exact detail or levekl of comfort on the MSI 480 or AORUS 570

If you can add more information , go for it, thanks

 

[TJ Hooker]

From what I know of mining performance among cards, the memory chips used probably has the biggest impact (assuming you're mining something based on Ethash anyway). So you'd need to see which card uses memory from which manufacturer, has the best memory timings, etc. This probably isn't something you're going to find in a typical graphics card review, so you may be better off going to a crypto mining forum (or maybe the eth miner sub on reddit) and asking there.

I don't think power consumption is really that big of a deal. Even if one card uses 20-30W more than another, it probably won't make a huge difference to profitability as I'm assuming electricity must be pretty cheap where you live to even be mining in the first place. Again, you didn't say what you're mining, but if it's Eth then you should be downclocking/volting your GPU core anyway to reduce power consumption.

 

[Imre_2]

Well i basically just saw it as a way to make some pocket money even if it was for bread and milk on bad months , so basically as long as i gain more than use electricity. I thikn in my currency , in ZAR terms, the power usage for a unit or a kilowatt is about R1.20, 1 Rand 20 Cents, so like maybe thats about 0.1 USD , not sure....
I have oredered a Red Dragon 480 4GB and hope it is available sometime.... BUT on the other hand in case of bad news and non delivery... I was thinking of buying a card locally here , it is the Asus Rx470 Mining Edition card , OR from over seas a RX570, the Gigabyte Aorus card 4Gb, not sure...
really in doubt...
Im just trying to find the best match for my existing 2 cards,

 

[TJ Hooker]

I'll be honest, when I was researching RX 480 models a while back I think the general feedback I saw was that the Red Dragon was probably the worst RX 480 model (hence it usually being the cheapest). Have no personal experience with it though. I quite liked my RX 480 Armor OC 4G, just decided I wanted a 8GB card eventually.

As far as finding a "best match" for your existing cards, I don't know what you mean. There's really not anything to match for mining.

FYI, if electricity costs ~0.1 USD/kWh, an RX 480 will make you maybe 1 USD per day, at most, based on current rates. I would seriously ask myself if that's worth it. If everything stays the same it'd probably still take you over half a year to make your investment back, if things go south you may never even recoup your initial investment let alone make money.

 

[Imre_2]

Thanks TJ hooker. Yeh so i have amazing experience with my Saphire Nitro+ 8GB and PowerColor Red Devil 4GB, i have to say for me the PoweColor is a much better build, but thats just me saying this.
I watched a video on youtube pertaiing to the Red Dragon which is the "suposedly" lower level ,m but the wattage looks good for the 480. In terms of mining speed, i am not sure.
I hope it is not junk, but lets see.
Thing is the 470 and 480 cards are very hard to come by.
I am scared of the 570.... but you it should not be an issue.
So maybe ill try the ASUS mining specific card RX470 which i can buy here locally, its slightly more bucks than buying from over seas ex shipping, but its not killer. If i buy form over seas i have a person pick it up for me form the UK office and bring it to me in here SA so its helps avoid shipping.
OR just get the Aorus 570, i dont know