MSI vs Acer

[rezten]

I have been researching for quite a while now that the Pascal cards have been utilized.

The two laptops I am looking at are.

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Predator-Gaming-GTX1070-G9-793-78CM/dp/B01LD4MKQI

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GT73VR-TITAN-427-Display-i7-7820HK/dp/B01MU51RX0/ref=pd_sbs_147_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01N4IF422&pd_rd_r=59JXEY40GS6C6H46NANA&pd_rd_w=0JMkn&pd_rd_wg=wRMV9&refRID=59JXEY40GS6C6H46NANA&th=1

I am pretty set on a 17.3in, 1070, and TB3.

The differences between these two as far as I can tell.

The MSI has a 120hz refresh and the Acer has G-SYNC.

The MSI has the 7820HK and the Acer has the 6700hq.

The MSI is 450 dollars more than the Acer.

This laptop will be primarily used for gaming(open world survival, mmo, and rts) and watching downloaded videos in hotel rooms. I do zero video and photo editing.

I don't honestly think the 120hz refresh is going to be much better than G-SYNC am I wrong? I don't really play first person shooters.

The real question is the difference in CPUs really worth that 450 dollars more?

If someone has some other laptops in that price range with 1070, 17.3, and TB3 connector let me know.

 

[Johnson Mike]

First of all the links you posted aren't working and they are returning 404's on Amazon. Please correct them. The difference between processors is absolute. There are lot of differences between them. First and major difference is the generation of processor. 7820HK is the 7th Generation Kaby Lake Intel processor whereas 6700HQ is the 6th Generation Skylake Intel Processor.

Newer generation processors are more powerful and more battery efficient than previous generation ones.

Another difference is between the frequency and cache memory of the processor.

i7-7820HK's base clock frequency is 2.90GHz and it can turbo boost up to 3.90GHz whereas i7-6700HQ's base clock frequency is 2.60GHz and it can turbo boost up to 3.50GHz.

Cache memory of i7-7820HK is 8MB and same of i7-6700HQ is 6MB.

I know this is too much processor thing and if you don't understand these terms then in simple words i7-7280HK is more powerful and more efficient than i7-6700HQ and yes, definitely it's worth the money.

Coming to display now,

G-Sync can give refresh rates up to 240Hz which is doubled than MSI's display with 120Hz refresh rate. I won't comment on this because both of these are good, definitely GSync is better but 120Hz isn't that bad either.

If you can tell me your budget or correct those links then I can suggest you other models or tell you which one is better from both. From comparison of laptops in your question, it seems that MSI is better from both.

 

[rezten]

First of all the links you posted aren't working and they are returning 404's on Amazon. Please correct them. The difference between processors is absolute. There are lot of differences between them. First and major difference is the generation of processor. 7820HK is the 7th Generation Kaby Lake Intel processor whereas 6700HQ is the 6th Generation Skylake Intel Processor.

Newer generation processors are more powerful and more battery efficient than previous generation ones.

Another difference is between the frequency and cache memory of the processor.

i7-7820HK's base clock frequency is 2.90GHz and it can turbo boost up to 3.90GHz whereas i7-6700HQ's base clock frequency is 2.60GHz and it can turbo boost up to 3.50GHz.

Cache memory of i7-7820HK is 8MB and same of i7-6700HQ is 6MB.

I know this is too much processor thing and if you don't understand these terms then in simple words i7-7280HK is more powerful and more efficient than i7-6700HQ and yes, definitely it's worth the money.

Coming to display now,

G-Sync can give refresh rates up to 240Hz which is doubled than MSI's display with 120Hz refresh rate. I won't comment on this because both of these are good, definitely GSync is better but 120Hz isn't that bad either.

If you can tell me your budget or correct those links then I can suggest you other models or tell you which one is better from both. From comparison of laptops in your question, it seems that MSI is better from both.

Thanks for the in depth response. The links should be working now. My budget is ~2000 which is why I am apprehensive about the MSI. The extra 25 percent cost doesn't seem worth the maybe 10-15 percent CPU performance. It seems that there is a pretty good split between people saying they aren't worth it and others saying definitely get it.

Thanks for looking. Again I want TB3, a 1070, SSD, and 17.3in.

 

[Johnson Mike]

Hi here's the laptop which I would recommend you to buy -

MSI GT72VR Dominator Pro-448 17.3 Inch Laptop

Here are its hardware specifications -

Display: 17.3" 120Hz 5ms Full HD | Anti-Glare Wide View Angle 1920x1080 | Operating System: Windows 10
Processor: Intel Core i7-7700HQ (2.8-3.8GHz) Latest 7th Generation Kaby Lake Processor
Graphics Card: NVIDIA's GTX 1070 8G GDDR5
RAM: 16GB (8GB x2) DDR4 2400MHz | Hard Drive: 256GB M.2 Sata + 1TB 7200rpm
Special features: Cooler Boost 4 | Steel Series Full-Color Backlight Keyboard | True Color Technology | Nahimic 2 Virtual Surround Sound | Killer DoubleShot Pro
Price - $1,899.00
check it out on amazon - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N6L9S7U/

 

[rezten]

Hi here's the laptop which I would recommend you to buy -

MSI GT72VR Dominator Pro-448 17.3 Inch Laptop

Here are its hardware specifications -

Display: 17.3" 120Hz 5ms Full HD | Anti-Glare Wide View Angle 1920x1080 | Operating System: Windows 10
Processor: Intel Core i7-7700HQ (2.8-3.8GHz) Latest 7th Generation Kaby Lake Processor
Graphics Card: NVIDIA's GTX 1070 8G GDDR5
RAM: 16GB (8GB x2) DDR4 2400MHz | Hard Drive: 256GB M.2 Sata + 1TB 7200rpm
Special features: Cooler Boost 4 | Steel Series Full-Color Backlight Keyboard | True Color Technology | Nahimic 2 Virtual Surround Sound | Killer DoubleShot Pro
Price - $1,899.00
check it out on amazon - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N6L9S7U/

Thank you again for the reply, but that does not have TB3

 

[Johnson Mike]

Hi here's the laptop which I would recommend you to buy -

MSI GT72VR Dominator Pro-448 17.3 Inch Laptop

Here are its hardware specifications -

Display: 17.3" 120Hz 5ms Full HD | Anti-Glare Wide View Angle 1920x1080 | Operating System: Windows 10
Processor: Intel Core i7-7700HQ (2.8-3.8GHz) Latest 7th Generation Kaby Lake Processor
Graphics Card: NVIDIA's GTX 1070 8G GDDR5
RAM: 16GB (8GB x2) DDR4 2400MHz | Hard Drive: 256GB M.2 Sata + 1TB 7200rpm
Special features: Cooler Boost 4 | Steel Series Full-Color Backlight Keyboard | True Color Technology | Nahimic 2 Virtual Surround Sound | Killer DoubleShot Pro
Price - $1,899.00
check it out on amazon - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N6L9S7U/

Thank you again for the reply, but that does not have TB3

yes, but it excels in all the other ways.

 

[starscream27]

Hello,

here's a couple choices:

https://www.amazon.com/Asus-G752VS-G-Sync-Gaming-Windows/dp/B01KB0W57O/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1486638349&sr=8-2
Intel Skylake Core i7-6700HQ (2.6GHz - 3.5GHz)
17.3" G-Sync Full HD (1920 x 1080) Matte LED Display
16GB Overclocked DDR4 2400MHz Memory
1TB 7200RPM Hard Drive
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5
Thunderbolt 3
Price: $1,599.00

http://www.xoticpc.com/msi-gt62vr-dominator-pro-087.html
15.6" FHD IPS Matte Screen w/ G-Sync
Intel® Skylake i7-6700HQ
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1070 [8GB]
16GB (Up to 64GB RAM supported)
256GB M.2 SSD + 1TB HDD
Thunderbolt 3
Price: $1,699.00

cheers

 

[velo3100]

If you are a serious gamer then the msi wins. They have a much better cooling system than acer and it is more of a desktop replacement than a laptop.