My 1080Ti is idling at very high clock speeds, creating unnecessary heat.

[inQntrol]

Hey,

My 1080Ti, for whatever reason, is idling at 1468MHz on the core clock and 5508MHz on the memory clock and I don't know why. It even happens in safemode. Because of this, it's creating unneccecary heat and the card is now producing 54*C, which is just enough to start the fans.

Because of this heat, it's causing other components in my system to heat up, such as my SSD (located directly above the PCI-E slot that the card is assigned to) and the water pipes that carry my water for liquid cooling on my CPU (though I don't think that exactly matters or affects temperatures in any way).

I've done some googling but I haven't come to any conclusion. So I came here.

Screenshots: https://puu.sh/x9eGu/bd8c96fc87.png

System Specs:

CPU: i7 7700k @ 4.9GHz
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110i V2
RAM: 32GB (4x8GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3600MHz
Mobo: Asus Strix Z270F
SSD: Samsung 960 Evo 250GB
x2 HDDs: WD Black 2TB, WD Blue 2TB
GPU: ASUS Strix GTX 1080Ti (Was overclocked to 2015MHz on the core but I turned off overclocks for now because of heat issues)
Case: NZXT S340

 

[drbones8472]

All of the Nvidia GPUs nowadays dont turn thier fans on until they are around 60C. That is perfectly normal for those cards. All you have to do is turn your fanspeed up on MSI Afterburner. Your screenshot shows that your GPU is set to auto on the fans. Either turn auto off and just set a static fan speed % that you are comfy with that cools your GPU enough but is still silent enough for you. OR you can set a custom fan profile in Afterburner. Ussualy fans around 60% will cool a GPU well enough to be decently quiet but still more then enough to keep it cool.

 

[13thmonkey]

what frequency is your monitor, if it is 144 then this will be the cause.

 

[photonboy]

Hey,
It's a known issue for multiple cards if you use certain overclocking software. I'm not sure the exact solution but you could start here:

1) set card back to default settings if changed (can revisit OC later)
2) remove any GPU software like MSI Afterburner etc
3) reboot
4) if not working run DDU (using safe mode as recommended) http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html
5) then reinstall the NVidia drivers
6) turn off Geforce Experience recording if running

There's been other weird software issues too, even Logitech drivers (no idea why).

The high-bandwidth (i.e. 1440p 144Hz) monitor issue was FIXED at some point but I suppose there could still be a glitch there too.

 

[inQntrol]

Main monitor is 144Hz, Second monitor is 60Hz.

@photonboy

tried all that, nothing worked. I did just change my main monitors refresh rate from 144Hz to 60Hz and that removed all of the usage from the graphics card and the temperature dropped from 54 to 45 and is still currently dropping very slowly. but this means I can't run my monitor at 144Hz without causing the issue, which means a good fix is required here (obviously.)

--EDIT:--
Going to 120Hz doesnt change anything though going to 144Hz will cause the bug?

 

[photonboy]

Main monitor is 144Hz, Second monitor is 60Hz.

@photonboy

tried all that, nothing worked. I did just change my main monitors refresh rate from 144Hz to 60Hz and that removed all of the usage from the graphics card and the temperature dropped from 54 to 45 and is still currently dropping very slowly. but this means I can't run my monitor at 144Hz without causing the issue, which means a good fix is required here (obviously.)

--EDIT:--
Going to 120Hz doesnt change anything though going to 144Hz will cause the bug?

The graphics card has to process more data as the bandwidth increases which prevented lower idle frequencies at higher resolution/refresh, however they HAD sorted this out better than what you're at now.

So it may be that an NVidia driver will fix this issue in the future. Not sure.

This is several YEARS ago and it got fixed after, then I guess came back gain:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1497172/did-you-know-that-running-144-hz-causes-ridiculously-high-idle-temperatures-and-power-draw-on-your-nvidia-gpu

Then fixed: http://www.144hzmonitors.com/other/nvidia-fixes-high-power-consumption-bug-for-multi-monitor-setups-at-high-refresh-rate/

As I read that I'm not sure if it applies to a 1x144Hz + 1x60Hz monitor or not as it mentions GSYNC.

At the very least it SHOULD be working with a single 144Hz monitor so... ?

 

[drbones8472]

[strike][/strike]

 

[drbones8472]

TURN YOUR FAN SPEED UP ON YOUR GPU WITH MSI AFTERBURNER!!!!!!!!

All of you people, go look at his screenshot of Afterburner at Idle. It shows his fan is @ 5%. If he turns up his fan speed then his temps will go down at idle. Its not a bug of anykind. ALL Nvidia GPUs are DESIGNED to do this. Its not the monitor refresh rate. Its not having multiple monitors plugged in. Its just his fan speed. Nvidia GPU's ussualy dont even turn their fans on until around 60C. And even then they dont turn on the fans very much. Ussualy only to 35-45% or so.

I PROMISE, all you have to do is turn your fan speed up. That will solve ALL of the heat issues you are having.

 

[13thmonkey]

TURN YOUR FAN SPEED UP ON YOUR GPU WITH MSI AFTERBURNER!!!!!!!!

All of you people, go look at his screenshot of Afterburner at Idle. It shows his fan is @ 5%. If he turns up his fan speed then his temps will go down at idle. Its not a bug of anykind. ALL Nvidia GPUs are DESIGNED to do this. Its not the monitor refresh rate. Its not having multiple monitors plugged in. Its just his fan speed. Nvidia GPU's ussualy dont even turn their fans on until around 60C. And even then they dont turn on the fans very much. Ussualy only to 35-45% or so.

I PROMISE, all you have to do is turn your fan speed up. That will solve ALL of the heat issues you are having.

WHY DOES THIS CREATE A HIGH IDLE CLOCK SPEED????????????

It should be idling much much lower than 1468, around 150 from memory where it generates little heat. Look to the root cause, not the symptoms.

 

[13thmonkey]

Main monitor is 144Hz, Second monitor is 60Hz.

@photonboy

tried all that, nothing worked. I did just change my main monitors refresh rate from 144Hz to 60Hz and that removed all of the usage from the graphics card and the temperature dropped from 54 to 45 and is still currently dropping very slowly. but this means I can't run my monitor at 144Hz without causing the issue, which means a good fix is required here (obviously.)

--EDIT:--
Going to 120Hz doesnt change anything though going to 144Hz will cause the bug?

Correct, going from 120 to 144 will increase the idle clock speed, I run mine at 120 for the same reason, I think that that feature with high idles for dual screens is gone, but I run my second off the mobo so that I don't have refresh rate issues that I've seen others have.

 

[13thmonkey]

Main monitor is 144Hz, Second monitor is 60Hz.

@photonboy

tried all that, nothing worked. I did just change my main monitors refresh rate from 144Hz to 60Hz and that removed all of the usage from the graphics card and the temperature dropped from 54 to 45 and is still currently dropping very slowly. but this means I can't run my monitor at 144Hz without causing the issue, which means a good fix is required here (obviously.)

--EDIT:--
Going to 120Hz doesnt change anything though going to 144Hz will cause the bug?

The graphics card has to process more data as the bandwidth increases which prevented lower idle frequencies at higher resolution/refresh, however they HAD sorted this out better than what you're at now.

So it may be that an NVidia driver will fix this issue in the future. Not sure.

This is several YEARS ago and it got fixed after, then I guess came back gain:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1497172/did-you-know-that-running-144-hz-causes-ridiculously-high-idle-temperatures-and-power-draw-on-your-nvidia-gpu

Then fixed: http://www.144hzmonitors.com/other/nvidia-fixes-high-power-consumption-bug-for-multi-monitor-setups-at-high-refresh-rate/

As I read that I'm not sure if it applies to a 1x144Hz + 1x60Hz monitor or not as it mentions GSYNC.

At the very least it SHOULD be working with a single 144Hz monitor so... ?

Wasn't aware that it had been fixed, my 970 doesn't like 144 and true idle.

 

[inQntrol]

Correct, going from 120 to 144 will increase the idle clock speed, I run mine at 120 for the same reason, I think that that feature with high idles for dual screens is gone, but I run my second off the mobo so that I don't have refresh rate issues that I've seen others have.

So you're saying I should run my second monitor through my IGU instead of my 1080ti?

 

[inQntrol]

TURN YOUR FAN SPEED UP ON YOUR GPU WITH MSI AFTERBURNER!!!!!!!!

All of you people, go look at his screenshot of Afterburner at Idle. It shows his fan is @ 5%. If he turns up his fan speed then his temps will go down at idle. Its not a bug of anykind. ALL Nvidia GPUs are DESIGNED to do this. Its not the monitor refresh rate. Its not having multiple monitors plugged in. Its just his fan speed. Nvidia GPU's ussualy dont even turn their fans on until around 60C. And even then they dont turn on the fans very much. Ussualy only to 35-45% or so.

I PROMISE, all you have to do is turn your fan speed up. That will solve ALL of the heat issues you are having.

Re-read my post. The heat is a symptom of what is actually happening. my GPU shouldn't be idling at 3/4th of it's
full clock speed.

 

[13thmonkey]

TURN YOUR FAN SPEED UP ON YOUR GPU WITH MSI AFTERBURNER!!!!!!!!

All of you people, go look at his screenshot of Afterburner at Idle. It shows his fan is @ 5%. If he turns up his fan speed then his temps will go down at idle. Its not a bug of anykind. ALL Nvidia GPUs are DESIGNED to do this. Its not the monitor refresh rate. Its not having multiple monitors plugged in. Its just his fan speed. Nvidia GPU's ussualy dont even turn their fans on until around 60C. And even then they dont turn on the fans very much. Ussualy only to 35-45% or so.

I PROMISE, all you have to do is turn your fan speed up. That will solve ALL of the heat issues you are having.

Re-read my post. The heat is a symptom of what is actually happening. my GPU shouldn't be idling at 3/4th of it's
full clock speed.

Agreed, and there is no problem using the igpu for the second non-gaming monitor.

 

[inQntrol]

TURN YOUR FAN SPEED UP ON YOUR GPU WITH MSI AFTERBURNER!!!!!!!!

All of you people, go look at his screenshot of Afterburner at Idle. It shows his fan is @ 5%. If he turns up his fan speed then his temps will go down at idle. Its not a bug of anykind. ALL Nvidia GPUs are DESIGNED to do this. Its not the monitor refresh rate. Its not having multiple monitors plugged in. Its just his fan speed. Nvidia GPU's ussualy dont even turn their fans on until around 60C. And even then they dont turn on the fans very much. Ussualy only to 35-45% or so.

I PROMISE, all you have to do is turn your fan speed up. That will solve ALL of the heat issues you are having.

Re-read my post. The heat is a symptom of what is actually happening. my GPU shouldn't be idling at 3/4th of it's
full clock speed.

Agreed, and there is no problem using the igpu for the second non-gaming monitor.

I know IGU will be fine but i may or may not have to use the second monitor for a kind-of eyefinity setup for some racing games, however i wouldn't mind just plugging it into the gpu for that scenario.

testing IGU now...

 

[inQntrol]

clock speeds dropped:

https://puu.sh/xaUK9/a8e918d479.png

 

[inQntrol]

Also, CPU temps are lower (around 7 degrees C since 1080Ti fix) https://puu.sh/xaUW5/19693be9e9.png

 

[13thmonkey]

clock speeds dropped:

https://puu.sh/xaUK9/a8e918d479.png

That's where it should be! Was that stopping dualling or the refresh rate.

 

[inQntrol]

clock speeds dropped:

https://puu.sh/xaUK9/a8e918d479.png

That's where it should be! Was that stopping dualling or the refresh rate.

yes, changing the 2nd monitors HDMI cable to IGU stopped the high idle clocks and temps if thats what you meant.

 

[lukasz.medynski]

Hey,

My 1080Ti, for whatever reason, is idling at 1468MHz on the core clock and 5508MHz on the memory clock and I don't know why. It even happens in safemode. Because of this, it's creating unneccecary heat and the card is now producing 54*C, which is just enough to start the fans.

I had same here and confirm gpu heat related to refresh rate. I thought its fault of Windows 10 Fall Update from 2 days ago but after few test and finding this topic i found that i turned off g-sync in NVCP to proper test in 3d mark and forgot turn on it again. My monitor is also 144hz and 1440p with g-sync and GPu works harder without it on 144hz.

If u have proper display and oportunity turn on g-sync (even to window mode)

Mine clocks from Asus Strix 1080 looks like this
with g-sync https://snag.gy/N3akPx.jpg
without g-sync https://snag.gy/BY0RUb.jpg

Ofc without g-sync gpu works on 20% of power even if utilization is < 5% - Higher clock in my case dont affect in any way performance e.g 3dmark results and games fps but is annoying to produce more heat and temps can reach in idle 40°c with mine fan settings - with lower clock are 30°c so only one cons of 144hz refresh monitor without g-sync enabled is heat in my case. In those screenshots gpu utilization is 5% cuz i use teamviewer atm to use my pc from work - normally even with higher clock on idle without g-sync, utilization is 1% in hwmonitor,task menager or process explorer

Maybe this will help if someone have g-sync monitor but forgot /dont want use this function 😉 I just wanted to fix that cuz few days ago i got some kind of crypto malware/virus and my gpu worked on 95% and wondered if this didnt happen again..

Regards.