My build and help for overclocking

[gamergautham98]

Hi i am making my build and i have chosen my parts and i want to overclock it and am looking into liquid cooling pls give me your advice(I also want to cool my gpu..).
My Build
i5-6600k
Gtx 980ti.(didnt decide on which company cause I am looking to liquid cool it too.)
ram(will look into it when the mobo is released)
ASRock Z170 Extreme6
2tb hdd
250gb samsung evo
psu(selected by you with the considerations of liquid cooled options)
corsair graphite 760t

 

[J-Roc and The Rockpile]

You can't really ask about overclocking when you haven't built the thing yet!

This is more a of a build type question. Is this your first build? What's your budget look like?
(I'm assuming a moderator will move this over to the Systems sub-forum.)

I don't see the price of the i5 6600K being justifiable at this point...For how much you're going to spend on that, you could get an i5 4690K, a nice Z97 motherboard and 16 GB of RAM (I know people say there isn't much different between 8-16 MB for gaming, but there is some high quality brands of RAM that are hella cheap right now, $45 for 2x4 GB vs $70 for 2x8 GB).

Is there a reason you're buying a full tower? It's a nice case, but good lord that's overkill. Save yourself some more cash and just get a decent mid sized tower like the Corsair Carbide SPEC-01. Has plenty of space and plenty of fans. It's also $42.

PSU - I'd get the Corsair CX750M....modular PSUs are so nice when you have the extra cash to spend on them.

"Future proofing" your PC just isnt worth it. IMO it's a massive waste of money...even if you have the money to spend.

You don't need to liquid cool an Nvidia card. They are dang efficient at air cooling...unless you get some crappy cheap brand of course.

Corsair H80i is great for a 120mm mount. If you end up with case that has a 240 mm mount you can go with the H105 or any one of 100's.

 

[gamergautham98]

You can't really ask about overclocking when you haven't built the thing yet!

This is more a of a build type question. Is this your first build? What's your budget look like?
(I'm assuming a moderator will move this over to the Systems sub-forum.)

I don't see the price of the i5 6600K being justifiable at this point...For how much you're going to spend on that, you could get an i5 4690K, a nice Z97 motherboard and 16 GB of RAM (I know people say there isn't much different between 8-16 MB for gaming, but there is some high quality brands of RAM that are hella cheap right now, $45 for 2x4 GB vs $70 for 2x8 GB).

Is there a reason you're buying a full tower? It's a nice case, but good lord that's overkill. Save yourself some more cash and just get a decent mid sized tower like the Corsair Carbide SPEC-01. Has plenty of space and plenty of fans. It's also $42.

PSU - I'd get the Corsair CX750M....modular PSUs are so nice when you have the extra cash to spend on them.

"Future proofing" your PC just isnt worth it. IMO it's a massive waste of money...even if you have the money to spend.

You don't need to liquid cool an Nvidia card. They are dang efficient at air cooling...unless you get some crappy cheap brand of course.

Corsair H80i is great for a 120mm mount. If you end up with case that has a 240 mm mount you can go with the H105 or any one of 100's.

Hi thanks for the reply..
No, this is my first build ,I have built several PC's before but not liquid cooled
I was going in for 6600k because i wanted ddr4 because this is just my base build and i will upgrading this after 4 or 6 months
and about the 760t I was going for that because I was going to SLI in the future..
My budget looks like 150000 INR...or 2250 USD
I will also be running photoshop and other demanding software on it... thanks for your reply and also what would you suggest,.. a custom loop or a closed loop

 

[rubix_1011]

For water cooling please read through the watercooling sticky linked below in my signature. Hopefully this will help.

 

[J-Roc and The Rockpile]

You can't really ask about overclocking when you haven't built the thing yet!

This is more a of a build type question. Is this your first build? What's your budget look like?
(I'm assuming a moderator will move this over to the Systems sub-forum.)

I don't see the price of the i5 6600K being justifiable at this point...For how much you're going to spend on that, you could get an i5 4690K, a nice Z97 motherboard and 16 GB of RAM (I know people say there isn't much different between 8-16 MB for gaming, but there is some high quality brands of RAM that are hella cheap right now, $45 for 2x4 GB vs $70 for 2x8 GB).

Is there a reason you're buying a full tower? It's a nice case, but good lord that's overkill. Save yourself some more cash and just get a decent mid sized tower like the Corsair Carbide SPEC-01. Has plenty of space and plenty of fans. It's also $42.

PSU - I'd get the Corsair CX750M....modular PSUs are so nice when you have the extra cash to spend on them.

"Future proofing" your PC just isnt worth it. IMO it's a massive waste of money...even if you have the money to spend.

You don't need to liquid cool an Nvidia card. They are dang efficient at air cooling...unless you get some crappy cheap brand of course.

Corsair H80i is great for a 120mm mount. If you end up with case that has a 240 mm mount you can go with the H105 or any one of 100's.

Hi thanks for the reply..
No, this is my first build ,I have built several PC's before but not liquid cooled
I was going in for 6600k because i wanted ddr4 because this is just my base build and i will upgrading this after 4 or 6 months
and about the 760t I was going for that because I was going to SLI in the future..
My budget looks like 150000 INR...or 2250 USD
I will also be running photoshop and other demanding software on it... thanks for your reply and also what would you suggest,.. a custom loop or a closed loop

Not to tell you what do to, but instead of saving to potentially do SLI in the future, spend/save more of the money on a single GPU right now. For most games, you're going to get the best performance out of a single, strong GPU. I'd suggest the GTX 980Ti, albeit it's a bit expensive, however it's just a phenomenal GPU. You have a large budget, but I'm not sure where'd you be buying your parts from.

Custom loops are awesome for really high end builds, but they require quite a lot of maintenance, and in the end, what would you use a custom loop for over a self contained loop?

As far as liquid cooling, I would get a sealed, closed loop. Much less of a headache to deal with.

 

[rubix_1011]

Custom loops are awesome for really high end builds, but they require quite a lot of maintenance

They are not only for really high end builds, any build can run one. And, as far as needing a lot of maintenance, no, they do not. If they did, you are doing it wrong.

and in the end, what would you use a custom loop for over a self contained loop?

Closed loop coolers are cheap for a reason - cheap/poorly performing pumps and cheap aluminum radiators. I'd recommend good air cooling over a closed loop cooler any day.

As far as liquid cooling, I would get a sealed, closed loop. Much less of a headache to deal with.

Not sure what your experience is with water cooling, but your information about watercooling is incorrect. Also, you should be clear to explain that closed loop coolers do not perform as well as watercooling loops - more like good air cooling.

I've had watercooling loops running in excess of 2 years without any issues or maintenance...it all depends on whether you use distilled water and antimicrobials or if you are using coolants for color, etc. Coolants tend to have a far shorter loop useful life whereas well-prepared distilled water loops can run for very long periods of time.

 

[J-Roc and The Rockpile]

Custom loops are awesome for really high end builds, but they require quite a lot of maintenance

They are not only for really high end builds, any build can run one. And, as far as needing a lot of maintenance, no, they do not. If they did, you are doing it wrong.

and in the end, what would you use a custom loop for over a self contained loop?

Closed loop coolers are cheap for a reason - cheap/poorly performing pumps and cheap aluminum radiators. I'd recommend good air cooling over a closed loop cooler any day.

As far as liquid cooling, I would get a sealed, closed loop. Much less of a headache to deal with.

Not sure what your experience is with water cooling, but your information about watercooling is incorrect. Also, you should be clear to explain that closed loop coolers do not perform as well as watercooling loops - more like good air cooling.

I've had watercooling loops running in excess of 2 years without any issues or maintenance...it all depends on whether you use distilled water and antimicrobials or if you are using coolants for color, etc. Coolants tend to have a far shorter loop useful life whereas well-prepared distilled water loops can run for very long periods of time.

That's great you have a lot of experience with successful custom water cooling loops, I don't. I run a PC business and build custom PCs for various specific industrial applications as well as specialized scientific PCs for various analytical instruments, and build small business PCs and do a bit of small business network setups, and then of course, build custom gaming PCs. When cooling is an issue, as it often can be a major concern in certain industrial areas, I have always recommended the closed loop systems, and then remotely monitored their efficacy during full operation. They work for me, so I'll keep using them until that changes.

I prefer using the closed loop systems because I don't expect my customers to have open their cases and inspect their cooling loops. I believe in delivering a finished product, the PC, that is ready to go when it's installed on site. I want a reliable cooling system product that I know I wont have to make a service call for. Custom water loops may be fantastic, but I don't use them, and never intend to, as they do not fit my needs for my operation.

But I do have a lot of experience with closed loop cooling systems that have worked very effectively, so I'm sorry you haven't the same luck.

Can you stop nannying my threads and arguing against the suggestions that I am trying to give to this person to help with with their build?

That'd be much appreciated. Thanks.

 

[celtic_warrior99]

J-Roc is correct with the watercooling option, GO for a closed loop- they are much easier to setup than custom loop cooling. Also, they will last much longer without maintenance, in fact they need 0 maintenance. Plus if u ever move case it will be much easier to move the closed loop cooler over than moving a whole custom loop over. If you rally want to overclock and get the lowest possible temps, then liquid cooling is the way to go.

 

[J-Roc and The Rockpile]

J-Roc is correct with the watercooling option, GO for a closed loop- they are much easier to setup than custom loop cooling. Also, they will last much longer without maintenance, in fact they need 0 maintenance. Plus if u ever move case it will be much easier to move the closed loop cooler over than moving a whole custom loop over. If you rally want to overclock and get the lowest possible temps, then liquid cooling is the way to go.

Not to mention, the Corsair H series has a fantastic 5 year warranty, which likely to outlast your PC anyways!

 

[celtic_warrior99]

Yes, exactly. The corsair closed loop coolers are awesome and have very god reviews. And if you really want to eliminate any noise, then just get new fans for the radiator. Plus closed loop coolers are soooo much cheaper than custom loop cooling.

 

[J-Roc and The Rockpile]

Yes, exactly. The corsair closed loop coolers are awesome and have very god reviews. And if you really want to eliminate any noise, then just get new fans for the radiator. Plus closed loop coolers are soooo much cheaper than custom loop cooling.

Agree 100%. Throw a couple low noise fans for a few extra dollars are you are good to go if the stocks are too noisy. I've gotten crazy results with even cheaper models like H55i and the H60i for my gaming build clients who are on a budget. I always try to recommend either the H75i or the H80i with the nice thick radiator. Those can deliver some awesome cooling with a push/pull setup. Love those things. I've yet to get a complaint from a customer about them too. I have them in all my PCs as well. Well worth it!

 

[celtic_warrior99]

yep for sure. Did a friends build using a H100i and its awesome. Keeps his 4790 cool, even at slower fan speeds. Hes planning to get some silent fans for when he overclocks his 4790. The coolers are great.

 

[rubix_1011]

Custom loops are awesome for really high end builds, but they require quite a lot of maintenance

They are not only for really high end builds, any build can run one. And, as far as needing a lot of maintenance, no, they do not. If they did, you are doing it wrong.

and in the end, what would you use a custom loop for over a self contained loop?

Closed loop coolers are cheap for a reason - cheap/poorly performing pumps and cheap aluminum radiators. I'd recommend good air cooling over a closed loop cooler any day.

As far as liquid cooling, I would get a sealed, closed loop. Much less of a headache to deal with.

Not sure what your experience is with water cooling, but your information about watercooling is incorrect. Also, you should be clear to explain that closed loop coolers do not perform as well as watercooling loops - more like good air cooling.

I've had watercooling loops running in excess of 2 years without any issues or maintenance...it all depends on whether you use distilled water and antimicrobials or if you are using coolants for color, etc. Coolants tend to have a far shorter loop useful life whereas well-prepared distilled water loops can run for very long periods of time.

That's great you have a lot of experience with successful custom water cooling loops, I don't. I run a PC business and build custom PCs for various specific industrial applications as well as specialized scientific PCs for various analytical instruments, and build small business PCs and do a bit of small business network setups, and then of course, build custom gaming PCs. When cooling is an issue, as it often can be a major concern in certain industrial areas, I have always recommended the closed loop systems, and then remotely monitored their efficacy during full operation. They work for me, so I'll keep using them until that changes.

I prefer using the closed loop systems because I don't expect my customers to have open their cases and inspect their cooling loops. I believe in delivering a finished product, the PC, that is ready to go when it's installed on site. I want a reliable cooling system product that I know I wont have to make a service call for. Custom water loops may be fantastic, but I don't use them, and never intend to, as they do not fit my needs for my operation.

But I do have a lot of experience with closed loop cooling systems that have worked very effectively, so I'm sorry you haven't the same luck.

Can you stop nannying my threads and arguing against the suggestions that I am trying to give to this person to help with with their build?

That'd be much appreciated. Thanks.

Sure thing.

However, I would ask that you refrain from giving incorrect information if you are not certain of the correct answer. Much of the problem is that incorrect information continues to be passed along as truth when there information that can be given to clarify.

If you are building PCs that require a very high uptime without potential for failure, I would recommend using a good air cooler. There are many reports of airlocks in these closed loop coolers where an air pocket prevents the pump from moving coolant, causing the CPU to reach thermal capacity and shut down.

 

[Someone Somewhere]

Cleaned up this thread. Please do not get into personal attacks.

Can you stop nannying my threads and arguing against the suggestions that I am trying to give to this person to help with with their build?

They are not your threads. They are not even the OP's. They belong to the Tom's Hardware forums, and we'd like them to be what's best for the forum as a whole.

Posting in lots of threads is not a crime. Arguing against suggestions that are perceived to be incorrect is also not against the rules, as long as it is done civilly and without personal attacks.

If you feel someone is harassing you repeatedly, report that. Don't complain that they're disagreeing with you.

 

[rubix_1011]

I'm not upset about it at all. If the OP or anyone else wishes to discuss my advice, they are welcome to do so. Otherwise, good luck on the build, OP.

Have a great holiday season, see you all on the forums.

 

[Someone Somewhere]

Taking this into PMs, because this is definitely de-railing the thread. Sorry OP.