My computer seems really hot.

[Chrissy Burgess]

ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3 mobo
AMD FX-4130 3.8GHz CPU
8GB RAM
Seagate Barracude 500gb HDD
Some other 160gb SATA-II drive
Powercool 650w 80+ bronze Modular PSU (which needs replacing)

So a few weeks ago my PSU started surging and would restart with a bios screen saying "power supply surges detected, ASUS anti-surge was triggered" which is crappy but also great as it protected other components. So obviously I need to get a new PSU and I will I just don't have the money right now.

So now I'm scared to play a game because it may cause the power supply to surge again and I don't want that, but I've been able to play Guild Wars 2 windowed and on the lowest graphic settings without it happening.

But since this started happening my computer has been getting much hotter, and the CPU fan is spinning lower rpm than it used to, so I took a screenshot of the CPUID Hardware Monitor program running so can someone tell me if this is too hot or is it bad that's it's getting this hot, or is something wrong with voltages or anything really..

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4627/g0gi.png
^^ That's while I was in-game on Guild Wars 2 for about 10 minutes.
Thanks in advance.

 

[ko888]

If the voltages were really what is being shown in your picture of CPUID HWMonitor your system wouldn't have booted up.

What is the ambient temperature?

Safe CPU temperatures are 60 degrees Celsius and below. It may still run fine with CPU temperatures, exceeding 60C threshold by a few degrees. Running the FX-4130 close to 70 degrees and higher is not recommended.

 

[Chrissy Burgess]

If the voltages were really what is being shown in your picture of CPUID HWMonitor your system wouldn't have booted up.

What is the ambient temperature?

Safe CPU temperatures are 60 degrees Celsius and below. It may still run fine with CPU temperatures, exceeding 60C threshold by a few degrees. Running the FX-4130 close to 70 degrees and higher is not recommended.

The ambient temperature depends on the time of day, in the mornings the sun rises from the east which isn't shining into the room, and in the afternoon/evening the sun passes and makes the room a bit warmer. I'm not sure what the temperature is so I'm just going to make the generalization of "room temperature" so I guess between 20C - 25C.

I think I'm more concerned with the GPU temperatures, It used to get to 55C - 60C maximum while in a high graphic game, but with GW2 in windowed and on low it's getting to 70C-80C, is that normal?

 

[Chrissy Burgess]

I restarted my computer and looked in the power options of the bios to find the correct voltages;
VCORE - 1.428
3.3v - 3.363
5v - 4.950
12v - 11.720

 

[ko888]

Normal temperature for a GeForce GTX 650 under load should be 52°C to 56°C, depending on brand and model of graphics card, while under load at an ambient temperature of 21°C.

NVIDIA states that the maximum GPU temperature for the GeForce GTX 650 is 98°C. I would think that you would already be experiencing visual glitches before the GPU even reached that temperature.

Your voltage readings in BIOS are still within ATX12V specifications but that is only while the system isn't under load.

Have you tried going back to full screen mode during gaming? Does the card's temperature drop when you do?

 

[Chrissy Burgess]

I've been playing Guild Wars 2 for about 10 minutes in fullscreen on low settings, here's the screenshot of HWMonitor.
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9093/jo5c.png

But if Nvidia state that it should normally be 52C-56C under load then 78C windowed and even 60C fullscreen isn't great right?

 

[ko888]

This 52°C to 56°C under load is from reviews of various GeForce GTX 650 cards. The reviews are performed in open air not in a computer case. The ambient/room temperature is usually around 20°C.

Inside of a computer case I would expect the card to be running several degrees Celsius higher because the temperature inside the case is higher than room temperature.

A 62°C maximum in fullscreen mode doesn't seem that far out of place to me. You can try leaving the side of the case open to see if the graphics card's temperature drops.

Windowed mode results in a higher temperature because the graphics load is heaver due to the need to also have to render the Windows interface. In fullscreen mode the graphics card only needs to render the game.

 

[hybird9012]

You may want to keep in mind, especially when playing games, is to turn off CPU / core boost through bios. Turn off anything in your bios that will overclock your CPU. Most games today heavily rely on the CPU and if you have your AMD CPU or GPU on auto overclock/boost then it will overclock those respective parts based on the load. In the case of games, it will ALWAYS overclock.

I disabled my overclock/boost in my bios and my CPU never gets above 50C.. With it ON it shoots up to 65C.