Question My computer's CPU is overheating ?

[ovie cavella]

i build new pc, this spec:

mobo msi b550 gaming plus
procc ryzen 7 5800x
ddr corsair 2x8gb 3200mhz
vga msi rtx 3050 ventus 2x
cooler msi aio c240

i have problem my computer in idle cpu core tem 50-62c , cpu socket tem 45c , when play game steam cpu core tem 70-85c, cpu socket temp 60-65c,gpu usage 80%-90%
when i restart show notice CPU OVER HEAT

what problem in my pc? how to solved this issues?
here screenshoot idle https://ibb.co/DV0hZv5
here screenshoot when game play https://ibb.co/zXHCW9c

 

[Phaaze88]

Case model is missing. Please include that.

cooler msi aio c240

when i restart show notice CPU OVER HEAT

You installed the radiator in the roof of the case? It should be moved.
The pump is built into the radiator on that model. While the unit is off, the air settles at the top of the loop(where the pump is), and the fluid settles around the bottom.
When you turn the PC on, you run the pump dry(bad); the priming phase is made more difficult. In those brief moments before the fluid finally gets going around and around, it's just sitting there, getting hot, then you get the temporary temperature warning.

 

[ovie cavella]

Case model is missing. Please include that.


You installed the radiator in the roof of the case? It should be moved.
The pump is built into the radiator on that model. While the unit is off, the air settles at the top of the loop(where the pump is), and the fluid settles around the bottom.
When you turn the PC on, you run the pump dry(bad); the priming phase is made more difficult. In those brief moments before the fluid finally gets going around and around, it's just sitting there, getting hot, then you get the temporary temperature warning.

yes i instaled on roof of case, which better position for instal this liquid? front or other side?
i use case infinty eos
psu cooler master 600wt 80plus bronze

 

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psu cooler master 600wt 80plus bronze

Which one exactly? Cooler Master has more than one 600w Bronze PSU.

 

[ovie cavella]

ok i solved cpu core temp with disable core boost on bios setting, but gpu usage 90% when play game, this normal?

 

[Phaaze88]

yes i instaled on roof of case, which better position for instal this liquid? front or other side?
i use case infinty eos

Front, but it hardly matters. That case is too much form over function. It's a hotbox.
You CAN choke AIOs too; the radiator needs air moving through it to do its job.

ok i solved cpu core temp with disable core boost on bios setting, but gpu usage 90% when play game, this normal?

Well... yes, since you disabled a good chunk of where a cpu's performance comes from.
What you did isn't ideal, but I guess running at base clock is sufficient for whatever this game is...


A new case should definitely be at the top of your list to do - one that doesn't place too much emphasis on form.
The AIO rad should be at the front as well... so a case with a meshed front panel. Find a case that still fits your tastes and meets that suggestion.

 

[JeffreyP55]

Front, but it hardly matters. That case is too much form over function. It's a hotbox.
You CAN choke AIOs too; the radiator needs air moving through it to do its job.


Well... yes, since you disabled a good chunk of where a cpu's performance comes from.
What you did isn't ideal, but I guess running at base clock is sufficient for whatever this game is...


A new case should definitely be at the top of your list to do - one that doesn't place too much emphasis on form.
The AIO rad should be at the front as well... so a case with a meshed front panel. Find a case that still fits your tastes and meets that suggestion.

What are ideal ways to mount the radiator?​

Radiator mounted at the front with the tube side at the bottom


One good mounting position is to mount the radiator of the cooler at the frontal area of the case interior. The side of the radiator where the tubes connect should be at the bottom, and the pump should be mounted in a position where it is slightly lower than the top of the radiator, where air is captured.





Radiator mounted on top of the case with tubes down


One good mounting position is to place the radiator at the top of the case with the tubes pointing downwards. This ensures the pump is below the radiator and that air will sit at the top of the loop and not be sucked into the tubes.
My 36 has been mounted on the top for over a year cooling a 5950x. Runs like a champ.

 

[ovie cavella]

What are ideal ways to mount the radiator?​

Radiator mounted at the front with the tube side at the bottom


One good mounting position is to mount the radiator of the cooler at the frontal area of the case interior. The side of the radiator where the tubes connect should be at the bottom, and the pump should be mounted in a position where it is slightly lower than the top of the radiator, where air is captured.





Radiator mounted on top of the case with tubes down


One good mounting position is to place the radiator at the top of the case with the tubes pointing downwards. This ensures the pump is below the radiator and that air will sit at the top of the loop and not be sucked into the tubes.
My 36 has been mounted on the top for over a year cooling a 5950x. Runs like a champ.

yes i see on guide msi for radiator position link this link https://id.msi.com/blog/how-to-place-your-liquid-cooler

 

[ovie cavella]

Front, but it hardly matters. That case is too much form over function. It's a hotbox.
You CAN choke AIOs too; the radiator needs air moving through it to do its job.


Well... yes, since you disabled a good chunk of where a cpu's performance comes from.
What you did isn't ideal, but I guess running at base clock is sufficient for whatever this game is...


A new case should definitely be at the top of your list to do - one that doesn't place too much emphasis on form.
The AIO rad should be at the front as well... so a case with a meshed front panel. Find a case that still fits your tastes and meets that suggestion.

ok but i just use for play game steam, i dont understand about fungsional for core boost. if i set to auto cpu core boost always over heat when i play game. but idle is normal.
this when i disable core boost https://ibb.co/MCmVXRv
then this when i played games https://ibb.co/xHVShqm

 

[ovie cavella]

Which one exactly? Cooler Master has more than one 600w Bronze PSU.

how about my psu? must change with gold?

 

[Phaaze88]

What are ideal ways to mount the radiator?​

Radiator mounted at the front with the tube side at the bottom


One good mounting position is to mount the radiator of the cooler at the frontal area of the case interior. The side of the radiator where the tubes connect should be at the bottom, and the pump should be mounted in a position where it is slightly lower than the top of the radiator, where air is captured.





Radiator mounted on top of the case with tubes down


One good mounting position is to place the radiator at the top of the case with the tubes pointing downwards. This ensures the pump is below the radiator and that air will sit at the top of the loop and not be sucked into the tubes.
My 36 has been mounted on the top for over a year cooling a 5950x. Runs like a champ.

Why this copy-paste? It's barely relevant.

There are 3 different locations for pumps in AIOs, and they affect which installations are viable.
1)Pump head or cpu block: front, top, and rear are ok. Bottom is bad, for the most part.
2)Radiator: front and rear are ok. Top and bottom, not.
3)In-line or the hoses: Pretty much the same as number 1.
OP's MAG C240 is the 2nd one. Corsair just has models consisting of the first one.

"Radiator mounted on top of the case with tubes down"
Like, when AREN'T the tubes down, when the radiator is installed in the roof of a case?

ok but i just use for play game steam, i dont understand about fungsional for core boost.

Core Boost is the SPEED, the 'vroom-vroom', what gets things done fast(er), what sends more work to the gpu.
Why cripple it like that? The case + radiator location are the reasons Core Boost sees high temperatures.

If it does what you want with your 'fix', there's nothing else I can suggest.

 

[JeffreyP55]

how about my psu? must change with gold?

The rating is efficiency nothing else. How much energy is actually used by the unit compared to wasted energy that turns into nothing more than a space heater.
Since the PS is the heart of any PC the PC deserves a quality power supply.

 

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how about my psu? must change with gold?

As long as you don't mention the exact model of your 600w Cooler Master PSU, nobody can have an opinion about that.

 

[ovie cavella]

As long as you don't mention the exact model of your 600w Cooler Master PSU, nobody can have an opinion about that.

cooler master, master watt lite 600w 80+ bronze

 

[ovie cavella]

Why this copy-paste? It's barely relevant.

There are 3 different locations for pumps in AIOs, and they affect which installations are viable.
1)Pump head or cpu block: front, top, and rear are ok. Bottom is bad, for the most part.
2)Radiator: front and rear are ok. Top and bottom, not.
3)In-line or the hoses: Pretty much the same as number 1.
OP's MAG C240 is the 2nd one. Corsair just has models consisting of the first one.

"Radiator mounted on top of the case with tubes down"
Like, when AREN'T the tubes down, when the radiator is installed in the roof of a case?



Core Boost is the SPEED, the 'vroom-vroom', what gets things done fast(er), what sends more work to the gpu.
Why cripple it like that? The case + radiator location are the reasons Core Boost sees high temperatures.

If it does what you want with your 'fix', there's nothing else I can suggest.

i try move radiator to front but same
now i try enable core boost then eco i set to 65w , i got cpu core temp 70-80c when play game its normal

 

[drivinfast247]

i try move radiator to front but same
now i try enable core boost then eco i set to 65w , i got cpu core temp 70-80c when play game its normal

Is your AIO involved in the recall?

 

[ovie cavella]

now i have repasta with grizzly

idle 45-50c https://ibb.co/KX718LJ
play game 70-80c https://ibb.co/8gcvfTF

this normal?

 

[DSzymborski]

cooler master, master watt lite 600w 80+ bronze

It's not the cause of your overheating, but this PSU is one of the worst of the worst, and it's not a good sign to see it actually being used in modern hardware; the only only thing it ought to be connected to is the conveyer belt of a recycling center.

 

[ovie cavella]

It's not the cause of your overheating, but this PSU is one of the worst of the worst, and it's not a good sign to see it actually being used in modern hardware; the only only thing it ought to be connected to is the conveyer belt of a recycling center.

how can i do to solved my problem? what do you thing about my problem where the isues?
1.cooler liquid?
2.procc must to RMA

and tell me about ryzen 7 5800x normal temperature on idle and play game

 

[Phaaze88]

i try move radiator to front but same

Same what?
Your case's front panel is an airflow choke point. Did you at least remove it during testing?

When you moved it to the front, did you flip the fans to intake air? I have seen pics of roof mounted AIOs moved to the front, but the fans were not flipped around, so they're still trying to exhaust air instead of drawing it in.

and tell me about ryzen 7 5800x normal temperature on idle and play game

Please understand that there is no default 'normal'; everyone with a 5800X, or other specific cpu, isn't going to get the same low and high load thermals due to numerous factors, some of which users don't have control over.
It's either within spec, or it isn't. Yours is still considered within spec.