My Core Duo scored 555 in 3DMark06, whats wrong? (CPU-Z pics)

Kano523

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I first posted about this problem a few days ago in the graphics & displays forum but despite all the advice I was given, nothing worked. So now I'm exploring other possibilities as to what could be causing this problem. Essentially my PC performance is abysmal I'm getting single digit frame rates and am at a loss for why. I did a reformat yesterday to eliminate the software variable but it had no effect so now I'm trying to find out what is causing this problem so it can be replaced. All the proper drivers are installed and I've done everything I can think of from a software standpoint to fix this but I need help evaluating my CPUs performance.

Specs:
Motherboard - GIGABYTE GA-965P-S3 P965 775 (Intel Chipset)
CPU - INTEL|C2D E6600 2.4G 775 4M R (Dual core)
Power Supply - PSU OCZ|OCZ700GXSSLI 700W RT
Video Card - VGA XFX PVT80GGHE9 8800GTS 320MB R
Memory - 1Gx2|G.SKILL F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ
OS - Windows XP professional

CPU-Z pics:








Is this normal? I don't quite understand the information CPU-Z is giving me.
 

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No I mean I'm often getting below 10fps in games, for example Half-Life 2 (and other games that run on the source engine) and Elder Scrolls IV. I even ran KOTOR 2 and it was choppy and awful.
 

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Are you sure that the CPU is the problem? The video card also scores very poorly in 3DMark06 and I'm also not ruling out the possibility that the PSU is causing the problem but I need to be sure before I try replacing all the wrong parts.
 

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Most of what can be said here about problems like this is speculation. The only way to really test any of this is by swapping pieces into your system and/or swapping your parts into another system.

-mcg
 

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Wow, no offence to any of ya'll, but the answer is blatently obvious....Your processor is running at 1.6Ghz. It is cause you have your multiplier a x6. Go to your bios and put the multiplier up to x9. That should do it for you. If that doesn't then something is wrong, but 1.6Ghz is probably why your frame rates are abysmal.
 

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monsterrocks I don't think you quite understand how speedstep works...it will throttle his cpu to 1.6ghz (6x266)when the system is doing very little work, then when the cpu is put under load by a game or program it will automatically change the multiplier to 9, giving 2.4ghz (9x266). So when he is getting these bad framerates and benchmarks it is when the cpu is at 2.4ghz. Hence this is most definately not his problem.

Hope that clears things up
 

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The video card scores low because the low CPU clock, so it bottlenecks your video card like you wouldn't believe. Just do what I said before and I promise you score will get much higher.
 

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Wow, no offense to you but his multiplier is at x6 because of speed step. It is, beyond any shadow of doubt, not his problem.
 

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And SpeedStep slows the CPU under low load to save power. It returns to full speed when needed.

You may want to run CPU, Memory, HDD, and GPU benchmarks to help isolate the issue. Anyone of those could cause problems.
 

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And even if the 6x multiplier *WAS* an issue it wouldn't explain framerates that bad. A 1.6GHz C2D wouldn't be too different than my X2 3800 at stock. Its something else.

-mcg
 


rofl a C2D at 1.6ghz would preform roughly the same as a 3800+ at stock (2ghz).
turn on cool-n-quiet and watch your 3800+ drop to 1ghz oh no!!!!!

whats with the noobs around here lately who have never heard of speedstep or CNQ?
 

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X2 3800 stock would block away a 1.6Ghz CPU. No matter how good the CPU, 1.6Ghz is terrible. I don't think you realize just how big of a bottleneck that is. MrCommunis, the architecture of a CPU means nothing if the clock speed is that low.
 

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I ran PerformanceTest 6.1 to benchmark everything and these are the results I got. Don't know if this means anything to you guys but I thought it might be helpful.

CPU - Integer Math: 211.4
CPU - Floating Point Math: 582.7
CPU - Find Prime Numbers: 438.3
CPU - SSE/3DNow!: 4412.0
CPU - Compression: 3918.4
CPU - Encryption: 22.9
CPU - Image Rotation: 746.9
CPU - String Sorting: 2501.1
Graphics 2D - Lines: 137.2
Graphics 2D - Rectangles: 279.4
Graphics 2D - Shapes: 6.2
Graphics 2D - Fonts and Text: 233.4
Graphics 2D - GUI: 241.2
Graphics 3D - Simple: 2504.0
Graphics 3D - Medium: 341.7
Graphics 3D - Complex: 33.6
Memory - Allocate Small Block: 1619.8
Memory - Read Cached: 1296.4
Memory - Read Uncached: 1245.3
Memory - Write: 1219.1
Memory - Large RAM: 380.6
Disk - Sequential Read: 75.4
Disk - Sequential Write: 70.8
Disk - Random Seek + RW: 3.2
CD - Read: 0.0
CPU Mark: 1148.0
2D Graphics Mark: 678.2
Memory Mark: 425.9
Disk Mark: 540.5
CD Mark: 1.0
3D Graphics Mark: 921.5
PassMark Rating: 700.3

 

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Little hard trying to find any info about performancetest 6.1 (or any version of it). seems to be personal database only.
I would try:
http://www.futuremark.com/products/3dmark06/
Much easier to see results and actual benchmarks in fps.

Edit: opps sorry, 555 in 3DMark06 (duh-my fault). could you list the details from that?
 

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I benched my AMD Athlon 3800+ Venice with Cool n' Quiet enabled and w/o Cool n' Quiet enabled. Even though the CPU throttles up, My CPU score went way down in the CPU section of 3Dmark 06 with it enabled. Yeah, I'm 16. I don't know as much as you people do. But I would have assumed he would have specified whether he was using 100% CPU in those pictures or not...And yes, I do know that those CPUs throttle down.
I have an AMD Athlon x2 4200+ @ 2.869Ghz. I will download that program and see what my CPU gets compared to yours. Have you considered it being a motherboard problem? I know I can't compare my results to your too much, seeing as how our systems differ, but if my CPU way outscores yours, I will post results and see if anyone can decifer them...
 

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Alrighty, I think it is you RAM. I have DDR (PC3200) and You have DDR2 (PC6400 or similar) Check these scores out:
Memory Allocate Small Block : 2439.1
Memory Read Cached : 1383.3
Memory Read Uncached : 1261.8
Memory Write : 1309.1
Memory Large RAM :635.2
Memory Mark : 519.6

Your results:

Memory - Allocate Small Block: 1619.8
Memory - Read Cached: 1296.4
Memory - Read Uncached: 1245.3
Memory - Write: 1219.1
Memory - Large RAM: 380.6
Memory Mark: 425.9

That obviously shouldn't be like that. Do you have any spare RAM of the same speed lying around? Everything else I ran, your computer beat mine in; except graphics, but thats because something is wrong with something else I am guessing. I am confident in saying it is your RAM or something to do with your RAM. Like I said, the only benchmark we majorly differed in is the RAM.

Oh yeah, do try to flash to latest bios. That may be a board that needs the latest bios to properly run C2D. You never know.
 

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A 1.8GHz C2D performs slightly faster than a 2.0GHz X2 so a 1.6GHz C2D shouldn't be too far off. I wasn't suggesting that the processor was running at 1.6GHz, I was saying that *even if it were* that wouldn't explain performance THAT bad. HL2 runs fine on an Athlon XP and a 9800 Pro.

-mcg
 

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Kano,

Installed and ran PerformanceTest here on this config:
C2D 6420 stock
Asus P5K Deluxe
2GB DDR2 667 (2 X 1GB)
XFX GF7950GT (512 MB) stock
Seagate Barracuda 400Gb 7200.10
550W PSU

And here are the results:

CPU - Integer Math: 183.2
CPU - Floating Point Math: 495.1
CPU - Find Prime Numbers: 530.0
CPU - SSE/3DNow!: 4416.0
CPU - Compression: 4618.8
CPU - Encryption: 27.9
CPU - Image Rotation: 921.6
CPU - String Sorting: 2912.8
Graphics 2D - Lines: 131.7
Graphics 2D - Rectangles: 408.1
Graphics 2D - Shapes: 6.1
Graphics 2D - Fonts and Text: 302.4
Graphics 2D - GUI: 274.3
Graphics 3D - Simple: 1929.6
Graphics 3D - Medium: 414.0
Graphics 3D - Complex: 42.2
Memory - Allocate Small Block: 2015.7
Memory - Read Cached: 1633.0
Memory - Read Uncached: 1569.6
Memory - Write: 1490.6
Memory - Large RAM: 526.7
CD - Read: 0.0
CPU Mark: 1225.7
2D Graphics Mark: 864.5
Memory Mark: 534.9
Disk Mark: 347.7
CD Mark: 268.4
3D Graphics Mark: 763.5
PassMark Rating: 733.3

My system is about a notch down from yours except for the motherboard… That said, it is obvious you are experiencing serious performance issues across the board. The most accurate way to find where the problem lies, is to follow MrCommunistGen's suggestion. Swap parts between yours and another system.

Now, if I were to guess, besides the processor and PSU I would include the motherboard (as a busted chipset could very well explain the numbers you're getting).

But do not take anybody's guess as valid diagnosis. Test those components one by one.

Regards.
 

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Well you might as well shut off speedstep and set your multiplier at 9x to rule that out. My e6600 gives a 3dmark06 of 6400-6800 with an x1950xt 256mb, if that helps at all.
 

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